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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby trapyoung on Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:16 am

AndyDufresne wrote:I understand your concern, jbrettlip. If Lackattack and his legal counsel...



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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby KraphtOne on Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:08 pm

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danfrank wrote:AND.... This is gambling , lets not sugarcoat and call it something else. As i quoted in an earlier post , lack is offering " real world items " in exchange for a 5 dollar entry fee and he is also taking a RAKE for his efforts. A generous one in that.. am i opposed to it .not all. is it in violation of his own rules. well yes it is.. Has the integrity of cc been tarnished , well now that is for you to decide when you enter your precious personal info into this site . There was no explanation as to why CC needed to raise X amount of dollars overnight which should leave one wondering. And for those of you who sold your personal info for CC credits to join well :lol: :lol:


Sorry bubb but you and your little bullet proof ass bandit are wrong...

It's considered gambling if you play a game of CHANCE for stakes....CC is a game of SKILL not CHANCE therefore it is not gambling..

This is why Poker is legal in non gambling states because it's considered a game of SKILL and not a game of CHANCE.


In america online poker for money is illegal... only way to play for prizes is to join a "poker club" the "club" can charge a membership fee, and can hold tournaments for prizes including cash... the "club" is not allowed to charge fees for said tournaments, as this would be considered gambling... as of right now that's the only way to get around american online gambling laws, but i'm sure they'll put an end to that soon too...

lack is pretty close to obeying american laws here, but is incorrect in assuming that the feds wouldn't consider this gambling... they would... and i predict future tournaments will be an entry fee of conquer credits only... and that membership fees will change... but we'll see
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby jammyjames on Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:16 pm

Nice - 1st game.. Second eliminated.. Thanks MR Private!!
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby natty dread on Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:07 pm

KraphtOne wrote:In america


I thought CC was based in Canada.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Gillipig on Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:01 pm

natty_dread wrote:
KraphtOne wrote:In america


I thought CC was based in Canada.

Montreal to be exact. Maybe American users wouldn't be allowed to play on the site if it was considered a gambling site!? I've played quite a lot of online poker on multiple international sites and I've never played against Americans. Plenty of Canadians but no Americans.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Night Strike on Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:02 pm

comic boy wrote:Lack
Purely out of interest , does this now mean that any member can start a tournament , request an entrance fee and award prizes ?


No.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby KraphtOne on Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:08 pm

Gillipig wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
KraphtOne wrote:In america


I thought CC was based in Canada.

Montreal to be exact. Maybe American users wouldn't be allowed to play on the site if it was considered a gambling site!? I've played quite a lot of online poker on multiple international sites and I've never played against Americans. Plenty of Canadians but no Americans.



none of the poker sites are based in the united states... which is why they got away for so long with americans playing on their sites for money...

but not anymore...

the major players in the online poker gaming industry were also arrested for their attempts to mask where american funds were going... arrested and brought to america through extradition ;)

like i said he'll either go all CC points for entry fees (in which case he wouldnt be able to charge for cc points) or just close off the tournies and cc points to americans
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Gillipig on Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:26 pm

KraphtOne wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
KraphtOne wrote:In america


I thought CC was based in Canada.

Montreal to be exact. Maybe American users wouldn't be allowed to play on the site if it was considered a gambling site!? I've played quite a lot of online poker on multiple international sites and I've never played against Americans. Plenty of Canadians but no Americans.



none of the poker sites are based in the united states... which is why they got away for so long with americans playing on their sites for money...

but not anymore...

the major players in the online poker gaming industry were also arrested for their attempts to mask where american funds were going... arrested and brought to america through extradition ;)

like i said he'll either go all CC points for entry fees (in which case he wouldnt be able to charge for cc points) or just close off the tournies and cc points to americans

I just don't understand why Americans can't play on poker or other gambling sites based in other countries. In Sweden we have a government owned company that has monopoly on gambling in Sweden. It's called "Svenskaspel" (basically meaning "Swedish games"). But it doesn't stop Swedish citizens from playing on gambling sites based in other countries. Only from playing on sites based in Sweden. Weird laws you guys have. All of a sudden USA and USSR seem pretty much identical.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby slowreactor on Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:42 pm

Just a suggestion for next time:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, send out a message if you're going to be changing around the game type from a 6-man to a 5-man, so we have a chance to bail out. It makes a huge difference for the game type. Basically, I paid to play one game, and got another. If this happens again you won't be getting my money.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby KraphtOne on Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:49 pm

Gillipig wrote:
KraphtOne wrote:
Gillipig wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
KraphtOne wrote:In america


I thought CC was based in Canada.

Montreal to be exact. Maybe American users wouldn't be allowed to play on the site if it was considered a gambling site!? I've played quite a lot of online poker on multiple international sites and I've never played against Americans. Plenty of Canadians but no Americans.



none of the poker sites are based in the united states... which is why they got away for so long with americans playing on their sites for money...

but not anymore...

the major players in the online poker gaming industry were also arrested for their attempts to mask where american funds were going... arrested and brought to america through extradition ;)

like i said he'll either go all CC points for entry fees (in which case he wouldnt be able to charge for cc points) or just close off the tournies and cc points to americans

I just don't understand why Americans can't play on poker or other gambling sites based in other countries. In Sweden we have a government owned company that has monopoly on gambling in Sweden. It's called "Svenskaspel" (basically meaning "Swedish games"). But it doesn't stop Swedish citizens from playing on gambling sites based in other countries. Only from playing on sites based in Sweden. Weird laws you guys have. All of a sudden USA and USSR seem pretty much identical.


It's called the federal wire act of 1961... it was to make anyone making sports bets over the phone illegal... the federal government considers the internet a form of wire communication... it's currently being lobbied in the courts and through congress that the internet not be considered part of the wire act...

the funniest thing is that it's not illegal for an american to gamble online for millions of dollars... i can bet all day long and do whatever... what IS illegal is me using my bank to transfer funds for such things... i could drive to canada, hand lack money, drive back to the us and play all i want... kinda silly... of course i'd have to drive back up there to collect my ipad...

thankfully poker players have a ton of money to hand congressmen to get this ship righted... the world trade organization even ruled that the US's prohibiting of sports betting and online gambling was illegal and fined us...

hopefully it'll be remedied soon so we can blow our money like we used to
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby natty dread on Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:26 pm

Gillipig wrote:In Sweden we have a government owned company that has monopoly on gambling in Sweden. It's called "Svenskaspel"


Yeah we have pretty much the same thing in Finland, only with a less stupid sounding name.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby Gillipig on Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:53 pm

natty_dread wrote:
Gillipig wrote:In Sweden we have a government owned company that has monopoly on gambling in Sweden. It's called "Svenskaspel"


Yeah we have pretty much the same thing in Finland, only with a less stupid sounding name.

is it called moottiroopyäöröäääää ;) ?
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby jbrettlip on Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:46 pm

Lack's legal team is probably like his programming team and his moderation team. A bunch of unpaid, unqualified high school kids who claim to be qualified.

The reason I brought the whole issue up is that often Lack (or this site) has proven to take a very narrow focus on issues. Sometimes it takes someone to look past the profit aspect and really try to find weaknesses in a business strategy. And if Lack has a legal "team" that he consulted, he is already behind on this fund raising expedition.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby comic boy on Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:50 pm

jammyjames wrote:Nice - 1st game.. Second eliminated.. Thanks MR Private!!


Did you really expect anything else, this tournament was always going to be a total lottery because the majority taking part dont know basic escalating strategy.
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Re: Conquer Cup I

Postby HighlanderAttack on Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:00 pm

comic boy wrote:
jammyjames wrote:Nice - 1st game.. Second eliminated.. Thanks MR Private!!


Did you really expect anything else, this tournament was always going to be a total lottery because the majority taking part dont know basic escalating strategy.



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