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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby betiko on Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:25 am

greenoaks wrote:
betiko wrote:ipad received, thanks CC! :)

have you logged onto CC from it?


sure but no way i take turns nor post from it! :D the ipad is great for all internet surfing, but not that much for CC! :)
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Gilligan on Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:42 am

betiko wrote:
greenoaks wrote:
betiko wrote:ipad received, thanks CC! :)

have you logged onto CC from it?


sure but no way i take turns nor post from it! :D the ipad is great for all internet surfing, but not that much for CC! :)


I like taking turns from my ipad :geek:
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby dt03457 on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:23 pm

How do we check on the status of the tournament? Is there a grid somewhere we can see results, who's out, who's in? what current games are going on?

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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Swifte on Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:30 pm

there's a button in the menu on the left of your screen that says 'Conquer Cup'.... lots of information there.
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Butters1919 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:16 pm

Why is there one player that is still waiting to advance from round 1? Did they start the Cup without the proper number of players?
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby rdsrds2120 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:54 pm

Butters1919 wrote:Why is there one player that is still waiting to advance from round 1? Did they start the Cup without the proper number of players?


To my knowledge, about halfway around round 1, somebody's game got corrupted and it's messed things up. If it doesn't fix itself, I'll do my best to fix it manually.

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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby betiko on Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:18 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:
Butters1919 wrote:Why is there one player that is still waiting to advance from round 1? Did they start the Cup without the proper number of players?


To my knowledge, about halfway around round 1, somebody's game got corrupted and it's messed things up. If it doesn't fix itself, I'll do my best to fix it manually.

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nope. your format was just not valid.525 players, round 1 with 5 player games round 2 with 4 player games, had to be 524 players round 2. that guy will probably have to suck it up... also this is going to be all messed up with 524; divided by 4 is 131 ect ect...
you're going to face some massive problems for starting the tournament with 525 players.. you need to create games for losers to make them back in the tournament.
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Butters1919 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:57 pm

betiko wrote:nope. your format was just not valid.525 players, round 1 with 5 player games round 2 with 4 player games, had to be 524 players round 2. that guy will probably have to suck it up... also this is going to be all messed up with 524; divided by 4 is 131 ect ect...
you're going to face some massive problems for starting the tournament with 525 players.. you need to create games for losers to make them back in the tournament.


525 players start 105 five-player games. The 105 winners advance to Round 3 where the 420 losers advance to Round 2 where they play 105 four-player games. Round 3 will have 210 players which does not set up for an even number of 4 player games. Don't see how that left the one player left over in Round 1 though.
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby betiko on Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:05 pm

Butters1919 wrote:
betiko wrote:nope. your format was just not valid.525 players, round 1 with 5 player games round 2 with 4 player games, had to be 524 players round 2. that guy will probably have to suck it up... also this is going to be all messed up with 524; divided by 4 is 131 ect ect...
you're going to face some massive problems for starting the tournament with 525 players.. you need to create games for losers to make them back in the tournament.


525 players start 105 five-player games. The 105 winners advance to Round 3 where the 420 losers advance to Round 2 where they play 105 four-player games. Round 3 will have 210 players which does not set up for an even number of 4 player games. Don't see how that left the one player left over in Round 1 though.


well, given that all round 1 players advance to a 4 player game (round 2 or round 3), 524 is the multiple and 525 leaves 1 behind! ;)
but yeah half of what I said in my previous post is false, forgot about the round 2/3 thing.

anyway, good luck to mods to solve the huge mess comming up!!
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Butters1919 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:04 pm

and now there is someone left over from Round 2...

consolation iPads maybe?!
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Gilligan on Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:06 pm

Butters1919 wrote:and now there is someone left over from Round 2...

consolation iPads maybe?!


is it me? :-s
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby betiko on Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:33 am

The cc 5 is a joke. What will there be, 3 players for the final anyway? And each round players waiting for nothing. Maybe make a games with awaiting players and try to find a fair solution in numbers of game won for everyone. Seriously, what the hell were you guys thinking starting this with 525 players...
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Butters1919 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:33 am

So now that this tourney has ground to a complete halt, any ideas on how to rectify the problem?
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby rdsrds2120 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:04 pm

Butters1919 wrote:So now that this tourney has ground to a complete halt, any suggestions on how to rectify the problem?


Yes, I do have a plan! I had to wait to see how it played out first (who was left with what). I'll be sending PM's out shortly.

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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby rdsrds2120 on Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:05 pm

betiko wrote:The cc 5 is a joke. What will there be, 3 players for the final anyway? And each round players waiting for nothing. Maybe make a games with awaiting players and try to find a fair solution in numbers of game won for everyone. Seriously, what the hell were you guys thinking starting this with 525 players...


That the system was programmed to auto-include byes, as I was told it could!

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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Uncle Loser on Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:04 am

I play in a lot of pool tournaments and run a few myself. I have seen problems like this before, not in any of the tournaments run by me because I know how to count.

My suggestion is to randomly select four players that made it to the semi finals (round five) but then lost.

Put two of them in a four man game with the waiters in rounds one and two.

The winner from that game advances to round four and joins that single waiter and the other two randomly selected semifinalists to play a four man game. The winner to advance to the finals.

In this manner you can make everyone play almost the same number of games, and the ones that don't, have to play better players, as they where semifinalists.

Perfect solution... no.
Fair solution... as fair as your going to get.

PS: As I am a semifinalist, I suggest you disqualify me. I have only one motive here. To find a fair solution.
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby PonyGal on Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:42 am

There are 3 ppl waiting at the final who played all of the way through, but it seems the last group who played were at round 4 (and the winner, which happens to be Smegal69 would therefore skip to round 6 to make the final fourth person in the finale. There is apparently one person in round 1 & another in round 2 waiting for a game too lol, but that seems a glitch. I think poor Smegal69 will be waiting for his round 5 game for a while unless they let him skip to round 6 to make the 4th player in the final. I think we should just give Emmdizzle the ipad? (jokes, im his gf) .. gl to all the finalist :-)
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby betiko on Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:49 pm

one player has won 0 games, 1 player has won 1 game, 1 player has won 3 games. I think what would be fair would be to open 5 games between these 3, one would have to win 4, one would have to win 3 and the last would have to win 1. first to reach his goal makes it to the final.
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Uncle Loser on Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:17 pm

betiko wrote:one player has won 0 games, 1 player has won 1 game, 1 player has won 3 games. I think what would be fair would be to open 5 games between these 3, one would have to win 4, one would have to win 3 and the last would have to win 1. first to reach his goal makes it to the final.




Who is the player with 0 wins? The waiter in round one has 1 win.
The waiter in round two is 1 & 1

According to your format there could be a possible 6th game,not 5
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby betiko on Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:40 pm

Uncle Loser wrote:
betiko wrote:one player has won 0 games, 1 player has won 1 game, 1 player has won 3 games. I think what would be fair would be to open 5 games between these 3, one would have to win 4, one would have to win 3 and the last would have to win 1. first to reach his goal makes it to the final.




Who is the player with 0 wins? The waiter in round one has 1 win.
The waiter in round two is 1 & 1

According to your format there could be a possible 6th game,not 5



Yes sorry you re right (thought he was a loser waiting for round 2). So that's 2 guys worth a round 3 game and 1 guy worth round 5 (they won 1 he won 3). So basically just make 4-5 games they need 3 wins to pass he just needs one.
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby Gilligan on Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:53 pm

Just put me in the final and call it even. ;)
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby smegal69 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:19 am

as long as i get my Bronze Conquer Cup Super Achievement Medal and my ipad i don't care how the sort it out :D
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby puppydog85 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:08 am

How about a random amount of losers from each round where there is still a player waiting get to play in one more game? ie. pick 4 from round 1, winner advances to round 3 with the waiting player from round 2, then you pick 2 more losers from round 3 to play with them. Right up until you get to the finals?
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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:15 pm

Hey, CC5 players! After some Discussion to find a solution that is at least mostly fair and time effective (the next Cup is very soon!), this is what the team was able to come up with. Right now, this is the following:


Round 5 (Waiting to Advance):
baxterman
Dusty21
Emmdizzle

Round 4 (Waiting to Advance):
smegal69

It just so happens that that is 4 players! :D. I will be making a manual game with you 4 players and the player that wins will be the winner. However, since smegal69 is a Round behind, he must win 2 consecutive games to compensate for the round that everyone else had played and won.

Everyone else in previous rounds would take a long time to backtrack and fix, so players waiting to advance will be receiving a free entry into the next cup and a month of premium. Expect your invites soon, and good luck! Best,

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Re: Conquer Cup V

Postby betiko on Wed May 01, 2013 8:47 am

i suggest that gilligan and the other guy get automatically qualified for round 3 on the CC6 because they've been screwed big time. so that means that if the format remains the same, there should be 632 participants instead of 640. I wouldn't be very happy if i were them!
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