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Re: Facelift!

Postby denominator on Wed May 01, 2013 10:37 am

1) It's not BOB. The maps themselves are intermittently glitchy (I am running Firefox 20.0.1 and it was fine before the update). Some regions on the map remain clickable, for others the clickable area has shifted slightly. I'm using the drop-down menus (reminds me of playing games before we had such nice things as clickable maps and jump to next playable game) to avoid any mishaps.

2) You should, at the very least, notify us in the BOB thread prior to making any changes that will affect BOB (or any other user scripts). Like IcePack said, a large portion of the paying customers of the site use this add-on and it is approved by CC as a legal tool. I accept that changes will be made to the base site, and agree it is up to the users to update their scripts and add-ons, but a notification would at least be nice so we all know what's going on ahead of time and can adapt better.
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Re: Facelift!

Postby rdsrds2120 on Wed May 01, 2013 1:15 pm

denominator wrote:1) It's not BOB. The maps themselves are intermittently glitchy (I am running Firefox 20.0.1 and it was fine before the update). Some regions on the map remain clickable, for others the clickable area has shifted slightly. I'm using the drop-down menus (reminds me of playing games before we had such nice things as clickable maps and jump to next playable game) to avoid any mishaps.

2) You should, at the very least, notify us in the BOB thread prior to making any changes that will affect BOB (or any other user scripts). Like IcePack said, a large portion of the paying customers of the site use this add-on and it is approved by CC as a legal tool. I accept that changes will be made to the base site, and agree it is up to the users to update their scripts and add-ons, but a notification would at least be nice so we all know what's going on ahead of time and can adapt better.


I wish I could! It's hard since most of the developers aren't familiar with how updates affect BOB, and I'm not personally technically inclined enough to be able to recognize which userscripts will be affected by various updates, if any.

However,

I think I might have found a solution to the madness: have an appointed update tester simply log on to our test site and test all of our big userscripts as they're on the test site and report back with any anomalies.

BMO
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Re: Facelift!

Postby ender516 on Wed May 01, 2013 9:14 pm

Generally, if you add or delete elements from the page layout, then any script that modifies the page (which is pretty much all of them) could be confused. The script has to find an anchor point, relative to which it will make its modifications. Disrupt the anchor and the script will misbehave.

In the past, we had just about trained lackattack to send the Tech Team information about upcoming updates, giving us time to check the scripts. I think it's great that the new administration is producing updates at a much higher rate, but without notification, the scripts are going to get left behind.
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Re: Facelift!

Postby rdsrds2120 on Wed May 01, 2013 9:42 pm

ender516 wrote:Generally, if you add or delete elements from the page layout, then any script that modifies the page (which is pretty much all of them) could be confused. The script has to find an anchor point, relative to which it will make its modifications. Disrupt the anchor and the script will misbehave.

In the past, we had just about trained lackattack to send the Tech Team information about upcoming updates, giving us time to check the scripts. I think it's great that the new administration is producing updates at a much higher rate, but without notification, the scripts are going to get left behind.


What's most difficult about this is that since there are more people here to make updates, there's a loss of communication as things pass from one person to another. I think we are getting better, though!

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Re: Facelift!

Postby greenoaks on Thu May 02, 2013 6:41 am

rdsrds2120 wrote:
ender516 wrote:Generally, if you add or delete elements from the page layout, then any script that modifies the page (which is pretty much all of them) could be confused. The script has to find an anchor point, relative to which it will make its modifications. Disrupt the anchor and the script will misbehave.

In the past, we had just about trained lackattack to send the Tech Team information about upcoming updates, giving us time to check the scripts. I think it's great that the new administration is producing updates at a much higher rate, but without notification, the scripts are going to get left behind.


What's most difficult about this is that since there are more people here to make updates, there's a loss of communication as things pass from one person to another. I think we are getting better, though!

BMO

i figure things must be getting really lost as no communication seems to be passed to me. :(
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Re: Facelift!

Postby ender516 on Sun May 05, 2013 9:22 pm

All right, folks, I have a version of BOB which seems to fix the snapshot button positioning issue. I am hoping that it helps with the tooltips as well. I don't have access to the userscripts.org account, so I cannot update the "GET BOB" link in the first post. However, you can try this version of the script and let me know how things work. If it goes well, we can see about fixing that link. So, here it is:

https://github.com/ender516/addons-for- ... ob.user.js
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Re: Facelift!

Postby Dukasaur on Sun May 05, 2013 9:56 pm

ender516 wrote:All right, folks, I have a version of BOB which seems to fix the snapshot button positioning issue. I am hoping that it helps with the tooltips as well. I don't have access to the userscripts.org account, so I cannot update the "GET BOB" link in the first post. However, you can try this version of the script and let me know how things work. If it goes well, we can see about fixing that link. So, here it is:

https://github.com/ender516/addons-for- ... ob.user.js

Thanks, ender!
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