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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Ffraid on Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:30 pm

suggs wrote:... are the Mods monitoring the new system, how much it is used etc
I am dishing out ratings pretty much for the hell of it.
But I just hope the MOds don;t come back in a few weeks time, and say "wow, look how many ratings have been left for people, its a success" when in reality its just the only form of "feedback" available.

Should we boycott leaving ratings?

Well, I haven't left any.

At first because I wasn't sure how it was going to shake out (5s vs. 3s). My natural tendancy is to think of a 3 as average but I kind of figured that most people would tend toward 5 (an assumption which seems to have been born out) and I didn't want to bring another player's average down when I had no problem with them whatsoever.

Now, I just think it is too subjective:

Attendance: Yes, I think a 3 is average but I also believe that attendance means just that, whether you show up for your turns. 5 minutes or 23 hours, if you don't miss a turn, you have perfect attendance. Some people seem to be using it to rate timeliness. I got a 4 in a game the other day when I started most of my turns within 5-6 mins. after the other guy had finished (I think one took 9-10 mins.).

Attitude: Frankly, I'm here to play. I really don't care if the person that I'm playing never says a word. That's not to say that I haven't enjoyed some of the chats that I have had with other players. I have enjoyed some of them very much, but if the other guy or gal doesn't say anything, I certainly don't think that's indicative of a bad attitude. Maybe they're just not very outgoing, maybe their English isn't all that good, maybe they are a poor typist (like myself :) ). Now, I have been fortunate enough never to have played anyone who was abusive or rude in chat, and I know that that happens and would certainly deserve a less than average rating, but other than that, if I give someone a 3 when they don't say anything, it's going to bring their average down and I don't want to do that when I had an enjoyable game just playing.

Fair Play: I play mostly 1v1 games. How in the heck are you supposed to judge a person's fair play? Even in multi player games, unless someone does something extraordinarily bad (or good), again, a 3 would bring them down when they were a perfectly fine player.

And that doesn't even address the issue, that has been raised in this thread, of some sore loser or just general, all around ass leaving all 1s just for grins, without the need for any justification at all, or any provision for response.

I figure as long as my rating is somewhere between a 3 and a 5 most people aren't going to avoid playing me, but I am boycotting leaving ratings. Guess I won't be getting that Ratings Achievement medal. ;)
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby KidWhisky on Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:21 am

Man I am really starting to dislike this new rating system. I get a rating of 3 for fair play in a game that as far as I can tell I played fair. Only with this system I don't know why this guy feels I only deserved 3 fair play stars. I liked it far better when we got to write and explain why we left the feedback we did. At least that way I knew why I was getting the negative and Had the chance to explain why I did what I did.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby sport.nut on Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:08 am

I'm not a fan of the new system. It really is pointless IMHO. I like the old comments, then you could read up on someone. You get a pretty good idea of a player after they have a few comments. Do they only show up once a day. Do they chat. Are they obnoxious in the chat. Is the person a good team player. That is meaningful feed back IMHO.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Hrvat on Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:16 am

I said this would happen, (from day 1 new "rating system" started), and was told to stop whining... :roll:
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Lilianna on Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:11 am

So, just for clarification, what do each of the categories mean? I had somebody say that he gave me a 1/5 for attendance because I didn't chat in the game, but I thought attendance was whether or not I missed any turns.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby bayou on Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:27 am

suggs wrote:I'm just thinking aloud here, so apologies if this a bit confused.
But are the Mods monitoring the new system, how much it is used etc
I am dishing out ratings pretty much for the hell of it.
But I just hope the MOds don;t come back in a few weeks time, and say "wow, look how many ratings have been left for people, its a success" when in reality its just the only form of "feedback" available.

Should we boycott leaving ratings?


There is a medal for leaving ratings so I suppose that is supposed to be an "incentive".
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby jiminski on Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:36 pm

suggs wrote:I'm just thinking aloud here, so apologies if this a bit confused.
But are the Mods monitoring the new system, how much it is used etc
I am dishing out ratings pretty much for the hell of it.
But I just hope the MOds don;t come back in a few weeks time, and say "wow, look how many ratings have been left for people, its a success" when in reality its just the only form of "feedback" available.

Should we boycott leaving ratings?


Boycotted it long ago brother Sugg.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby lackattack on Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:41 pm

Stop the boycotts! Stop the ranting! Stop accusing us of not listening!

Instead rate fairly and according to the instructions and participate in the Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation!

Thank you :P
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Frop on Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:36 pm

lackattack wrote:rate fairly and according to the instructions

Jim, RTFM! :D
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby jiminski on Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:54 pm

Frop wrote:
lackattack wrote:rate fairly and according to the instructions

......RTFM! :D
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby hanamog on Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:26 pm

This new rating system sucks!!! One or two jack offs give you a low rating and you are screwed. Never missed a turn, allways check games twice a day and two jerks give me 3 stars, that's BS. Go back to the written feedback at least you had a chance to reply and others could see if the negative feedback was from an asshole.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby lackattack on Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:29 am

Actually, 3 stars is considered average, not low.

rating screen instructions wrote:The number of stars given should be based on this scale:

1 = Bad, 2 = Below Average, 3 = Average, 4 = Above Average, 5 = Excellent
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Hrvat on Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:15 am

lackattack wrote:Actually, 3 stars is considered average, not low.

rating screen instructions wrote:The number of stars given should be based on this scale:

1 = Bad, 2 = Below Average, 3 = Average, 4 = Above Average, 5 = Excellent

Lack, Most of us do not want average.
Unless you intend to moderate, it is pointless to try and enforce your idea on what is proper.
Most people will rate as they fill fit. eg.:

I enjoyed the game = 5 stars
I did not enjoyed playing that player = 1 star

Giving 3 serves NO purpose.


OBTW.
I rated my last player today.
As current system serves NO purpose, I will not be rating any players, good, bad or average.
As far as I am concerned there is NO rating system.


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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Astoria on Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:53 am

KidWhisky wrote:Man I am really starting to dislike this new rating system. I get a rating of 3 for fair play in a game that as far as I can tell I played fair. Only with this system I don't know why this guy feels I only deserved 3 fair play stars. I liked it far better when we got to write and explain why we left the feedback we did. At least that way I knew why I was getting the negative and Had the chance to explain why I did what I did.


Exactly the same thing in my head. Some players just get upset with their loss and just gave low ratings as a revenge for no reason. With Feedback system there were also weak players who would put some dirty words on you just because they lost, but with FeedBack that was so much more rarer.

As for FeedBack, can you at least put back the number of Positive and Negative f-backs because it is so way more pleasant to play with nice players and do not deal with rude dudes at all? It is just like in real life when you know what social group is appropriate for you and with what kind of people you should never mix.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Beefcake Jones on Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:53 pm

STUPID. Horrible decision. The old feedback system was fine. Perhaps the owners of this site would be better served spending their time FIXING THE SERVERS than dinking with bullshit like this.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:22 pm

We hear you all, we do! Please check out our Ratings Reloaded topic for feedback on some changes, alterations, and fixes.


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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby hulmey on Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:46 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:We hear you all, we do! Please check out our Ratings Reloaded topic for feedback on some changes, alterations, and fixes.


--Andy


no point in going there. You guys dont seem to be listening to what the vast majority of your customer's want. WE DONT WANT RATINGS!!! Well apart from KLOBBER.

The only way forward that i can see would be the Community Feedback idea. The ratings system just aint gonna work. And as for the WALL, its initial use looked good but its just borrrring.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Hrvat on Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:56 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:We hear you all, we do! Please check out our Ratings Reloaded topic for feedback on some changes, alterations, and fixes.


--Andy

Hello...
We do NOT WANT 3's :!:

Hello....
3 average is NOT an option. :!:

Hello... ???

Sigh... just a lot of noise from Lack and Co....:
'it will all average out' ... 'you must give 3' as standard'... ''if you give 5's we'll downgrade it to 3'... 'if you give 1's we'll upgrade it to 3's'.....


Lack has learned nothing from Classic map Fiasco?
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:01 pm

Contribute to the discussion and something worthwile will come from it. :) There are quite a few topics in that thread to discuss. :D

Regarding Classic Map, there was an actual need to alter it. But that's off topic and for one of the many old threads. ;)


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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Hrvat on Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:36 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Contribute to the discussion and something worthwile will come from it. :) There are quite a few topics in that thread to discuss. :D

Regarding Classic Map, there was an actual need to alter it. But that's off topic and for one of the many old threads. ;)


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It is not off topic!
Lack is again pushing through with his idea, that most people disagree with.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Lilianna on Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:35 am

Once again, I would like to ask, is one of your multiple solutions going to deal with people not knowing what each attribute is? As I already said, I got a 1/5 in ATTENDANCE because I didn't chat a lot in the game.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby nekroman on Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:53 pm

I have an issue with the ratings system, what's the point of having a possible of 5 stars for attendance? I was on time for all of my turns but since people ASSUMED it was supposed to be an RT game, they gave me low ratings. How is that supposed to be fair? Attendance should be a plus or minus, rated by the CPU, if you miss a turn, you get a bad rating. If you make it for your turns, good rating. End of story. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby Astoria on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:44 am

nekroman wrote: Attendance should be a plus or minus, rated by the CPU, if you miss a turn, you get a bad rating. If you make it for your turns, good rating.


Very Good Point
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby CryWolf on Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:38 pm

Astoria wrote:
nekroman wrote: Attendance should be a plus or minus, rated by the CPU, if you miss a turn, you get a bad rating. If you make it for your turns, good rating.


Very Good Point


2nd'd == and you should only be able to leave a teamwork rating for someone if you played a team game with them on the same team as that person am I right?
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Re: [09-Jun-2008] Ratings & Medals

Postby nekroman on Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:09 pm

Right, to the team game thing
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