New Years Resolution: Newbie Farming is not Cool.

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Why would anyone spend their free time taking part in a game that their opponents don't know how to play correctly? I don't get it. Apparently it's a problem, though, so people who get their rocks off that way must be out there...

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Why would anyone spend their free time taking part in a game that their opponents don't know how to play correctly? I don't get it. Apparently it's a problem, though, so people who get their rocks off that way must be out there...

Yes Skip, some players prey on newbies. It's about their self-esteem and their precious points and rank. Just like Jeff Hardy!

[porkenbeans]

Why would anyone spend their free time taking part in a game that their opponents don't know how to play correctly? I don't get it. Apparently it's a problem, though, so people who get their rocks off that way must be out there...

Yes the majority of the top players are Newbie rapers.

[neanderpaul14]

It's about damn time. I mean, how long were you going to let that madness continue? It's an outrage I tell ya! Darn farmers, all they care about is points points points...

Awright Herps any ideas what we should do to the farmers??

Well, actually since you asked. I find it kind of imperialistic to just come through and snatch our pride right out of our hands. We were one with the spiritual Conquer Club and we mothered every ? that came into our lives. Just because we appeared to be primitive and not as domesticated doesn't mean we aren't kind, gentle, and giving souls. I personally believe that we are entitled to some form of reservation and casino offerings. I did subtly warn Twill that if we continue to be suppressed and erased from CC history than there will be an uprising where we attack your trains and burn your carriages. However, I've grown a bit depressed and am slowly forgetting what it means to be a farmer *Sigh*. I'm currently drinking my 4th bottle of hairspray while loathing my fallen fellow warriors and spirit ancestors.

-Chief Herp, last of the herpaewa farmers

I think what we need here is a 'farming treatment program'. Responsible members can set up some multis and distribute them liberally around the site on fave farming maps. King_H and his ilk can have fun finding them and enjoy that special satisfaction of beating a deadbeat. It is not as easy as it looks you know! Every month we'll create less multis and gradually wean our favourite farming friends off of their nasty little addiction. It is the only humane thing to do!

So what your suggesting is sort of like a methadone program aimed at newbie farmers???

I can picture the line out the door now "C'mon man just one n00b please, I need one to get right. I'll pay you tomorrow. You know I'm good for it. AWWWW just one cmon *sob* please man."

[jarrett155]

Poor lil' Jeffrey Hardy is upset with me. Yep, he sent a p.m. to me to tell me how unfair I am with him....boo-hoo, somebody give me a hankie.

I tell you what Jeffrey, since you think I'm so brutal to you. Why don't we have people here who have posted on this thread to pick several games and with several options and then we'll decide whether a low rank individual like myself and high rank person like yourself is, umm, errr...more qualified as a player here at C.C.

Please, don't back down or come up with some lame excuse, play me with games on those who posted would choose and we'll see, if high rank means anything against a low rank piece of shit like myself.

Are you gamed or cluck, cluck....chicken. Let the games begin!

General Stoneham

i say aor 3 fs foggy unl no cards
feudal adj sunny fs no cards

[Mr Changsha]

Still no word from Twill with regards to me becoming the new 'Farming Prevention with special attention to Weaning' Moderator.

Just the kind of customer service we've all come to expect from CC.

I've even been working out scripts that'll allow my multis to - every once in a while - throw themselves at neutrals, just to make the experience that much more real for our reforming farmers.

I've shown I care; when is Twill going to show that he cares I care about the care of CC?

[Greeboski]

i joined a few days ago. and have started 6 games in total. 2 of the games have been joint LAST by a mid-ranked player as the only non-noob. i also have joined 2 games started by ranked players. the other 2 games are 100% noob.

from what i have read here 2/3rd's of my games started to date could be farming games.

i do have a grasp of the rules of that board game that is almost similar, but do not know any of the other maps here.
also the interface takes a little getting used to.

i would propose that noob's be "quarenteened" to start with.
untill they have FINISHED playing four noob only games and last 6 turns in each.
ALSO each map should require ONE game against other "first few go's on this map" players. (a win would exclude a player from further unscored games on that map)
this should get them used to the interface in all aspects and not leave people clewless as to the maps.

all of these games should be unscored. and the player would have the rank "trainee" or "???" if you like.

to me this is the only way to STOP the practice, and is more like reality - all soldiers go through basic training even the generals did at some point.

[john9blue]

i joined a few days ago. and have started 6 games in total. 2 of the games have been joint LAST by a mid-ranked player as the only non-noob. i also have joined 2 games started by ranked players. the other 2 games are 100% noob.

from what i have read here 2/3rd's of my games started to date could be farming games.

i do have a grasp of the rules of that board game that is almost similar, but do not know any of the other maps here.
also the interface takes a little getting used to.

i would propose that noob's be "quarenteened" to start with.
untill they have FINISHED playing four noob only games and last 6 turns in each.
ALSO each map should require ONE game against other "first few go's on this map" players. (a win would exclude a player from further unscored games on that map)
this should get them used to the interface in all aspects and not leave people clewless as to the maps.

all of these games should be unscored. and the player would have the rank "trainee" or "???" if you like.

to me this is the only way to STOP the practice, and is more like reality - all soldiers go through basic training even the generals did at some point.

The thing is, lots of newbs deadbeat. That's not a very good first experience, is it?

What we need are unranked games that are available to everyone. Then, New Recruits must play their first five games unranked before they show up on the scoreboard at 1000 points.

Here's an even better suggestion... Lack should make some multis of his own that roll straight sixes against anyone that's a Lieutenant or higher, if they are the only non-newbie in the game. That ought to be interesting.

[Jeff Hardy]

Poor lil' Jeffrey Hardy is upset with me. Yep, he sent a p.m. to me to tell me how unfair I am with him....boo-hoo, somebody give me a hankie.

I tell you what Jeffrey, since you think I'm so brutal to you. Why don't we have people here who have posted on this thread to pick several games and with several options and then we'll decide whether a low rank individual like myself and high rank person like yourself is, umm, errr...more qualified as a player here at C.C.

Please, don't back down or come up with some lame excuse, play me with games on those who posted would choose and we'll see, if high rank means anything against a low rank piece of shit like myself.

Are you gamed or cluck, cluck....chicken. Let the games begin!

General Stoneham

i say aor 3 fs foggy unl no cards
feudal adj sunny fs no cards

sounds good

now please dont chicken out stoneham, i love beating haters

btw, did you even bother to look at my games or were you so jealous of my rank that you just had to start flaming?

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Ok Jeffrey, just to make sure it ain't luck, but skill, I propose 20 games.

I'll pick 10 maps and options and you'll pick the same amount and options.

I'll p.m. you my 10 games with password and I'll expect the same from you.

We can then tell everyone here on Farming, how over-ranked you are, tee-hee, OR if I'm just full of shit.

[Jeff Hardy]

Ok Jeffrey, just to make sure it ain't luck, but skill, I propose 20 games.

I'll pick 10 maps and options and you'll pick the same amount and options.

I'll p.m. you my 10 games with password and I'll expect the same from you.

We can then tell everyone here on Farming, how over-ranked you are, tee-hee, OR if I'm just full of shit.

dont chicken out man

you said that someone should say settings and thats what we'll play

someone has said settings, thats what were playing

and your theory of "i pick 10, you pick 10" is completely flawed and you know it

id win all 10 of my games and at least 6 of yours but id still lose points in total

get up to general (or at least colonel/brig) and then ill do 20 games with you where we pick 10 each

i think ill let my brother (a corporal) play them and just give him advice on how to win and watch you drop your rank to corporal yourself

he could even get his rank down to private, just for you

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Ok Jeffrey, just to make sure it ain't luck, but skill, I propose 20 games.

I'll pick 10 maps and options and you'll pick the same amount and options.

I'll p.m. you my 10 games with password and I'll expect the same from you.

We can then tell everyone here on Farming, how over-ranked you are, tee-hee, OR if I'm just full of shit.

dont chicken out man

you said that someone should say settings and thats what we'll play

someone has said settings, thats what were playing

and your theory of "i pick 10, you pick 10" is completely flawed and you know it

id win all 10 of my games and at least 6 of yours but id still lose points in total

get up to general (or at least colonel/brig) and then ill do 20 games with you where we pick 10 each

i think ill let my brother (a corporal) play them and just give him advice on how to win and watch you drop your rank to corporal yourself

he could even get his rank down to private, just for you

Here's my 10 games [which I p.m. you with password]
3976839, 48, 56, 59, 62, 64, 67, 70, 73, 74

BUT! It looks like you are a chicken! Coming up with excuses now.

Lil' Jeffrey Hardy aka Chicken Shit!

As everyone can see by my choices of games, there's a huge variety of maps.

Obviously you have multiple accounts and you use your dummy accounts to raise your precious points and rank.

You are just a coward and also are a over-ranked trans-sexual, transvestite, homosexual, acne plagued kid, who likes to play dress up with Mommy's clothes and make up.

You sicken me and are a disgrace to all high rank and strategic players at C.C.

[Jeff Hardy]

like i said before man, id win all 10 of my games and at least 6 of yours

now thats 16-4 but for every game i win i get 7 and for every game i lose i lose 55

now thats 16x7-55x4=-104

so in total i would lose 104 because of your shit rank

so obviously, my answer in NO

[Night Strike]

General Stoneham, your games and flames don't belong in this thread. Please take them to the appropriate forums.

[thegreekdog]

I am a relatively new player... love the game, etc. If I receive an email from someone asking me to play a game, I'll say yes, no matter who it is or where it is. I'm not really caring that they are better at this game than I am and that I have a 90% chance to lose. I can learn something from the game and I'm fairly sure I'll have fun.

With that being said, I didn't know what farmers were until a week ago, which happened to coincide with me getting a random message to join a game (I didn't join because it was 3 AM EST and I was a drunk). Anyway my point is that Newbie farmers are only "hurting" people who are not newbie farmers (i.e. the people posting here who think their low ranking comparatively to newbie farmers are because of newbie farming). I don't think newbie farmers are hurting newbies. I got drilled in my first few games, and I get destroyed anytime I change settings or maps to something unfamiliar to me. Yet, I'm still playing. In an effort to anger everyone, I will say that :

(1) People who try to win games against newbies just to increase their point total are hurting themselves because it cannot be fun to beat up on someone who has no clue what they're doing... that's like a 300 pound man beating up a 100 pound guy. Sure, the little guy is hurting, but the 300 pound guy should be ashamed of himself. But, to each their own.
(2) The supposed purpose of banning newbie farming is to get newbies to stay on the site. However, I think the people supporting the ban of newbie farming are not concerned with that so much as they are concerned about eliminating the newbie farmers from the game. The point is that the supports of the newbie farming ban are more concerned with their own advancement than whether or not newbies stay with the site. Newbies are going to stay on this site because playing is fun and distracting and because the maps are really well-done. They are not going to stay just because they win some games.

At any rate, that's the view from the bottom.