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Re: Random Map

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:07 pm

Dako wrote:I sense some random tournaments will now be hosted :).

Great improvement.


They already have been, my friend! This will just make my job a lot easier in doing so. <smile>
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Re: Random Map

Postby sailorseal on Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:21 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Dako wrote:I sense some random tournaments will now be hosted :).

Great improvement.


They already have been, my friend!

You are in the Dark 1&2 hosted by me :D
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Re: Random Map

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:39 pm

sailorseal wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Dako wrote:I sense some random tournaments will now be hosted :).

Great improvement.


They already have been, my friend!

You are in the Dark 1&2 hosted by me :D


True...you did come along after the fact. <laughing>
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Re: Random Map

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:45 pm

Woodruff wrote:
sailorseal wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Dako wrote:I sense some random tournaments will now be hosted :).

Great improvement.


They already have been, my friend!

You are in the Dark 1&2 hosted by me :D


True...you did come along after the fact. <laughing>



I would not make any tournaments right now. This has lots of problems with it that need to be fixed before it can be used.
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Re: Random Map

Postby lackattack on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:11 pm

I've disabled Random Map until we solve the bug with maps that have restrictions on the # of players...
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Re: Random Map

Postby squishyg on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:20 pm

A very cool idea, looking forward to partaking!
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Re: Random Map

Postby n00blet on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:37 pm

Wait...What happened? I tried to give this a go and it's just selecting Peloponnesian War (because it's at the bottom of the map list I presume)....

Was this taken offline already :?
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Re: Random Map

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:48 pm

lackattack wrote:I've disabled Random Map until we solve the bug with maps that have restrictions on the # of players...



Poof gone like the wind...
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Re: Random Map

Postby watsonshawn on Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:41 am

Big thumbs up.
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Re: Random Map

Postby DaJuice on Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:35 am

Beautiful thank you
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Re: Random Map

Postby zeractal on Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:22 am

Don't have it so you can chose specific maps to disable or the people who "really" must have points will disable all bar the one they play.
or someone like Kind Herpes might use it instead of setting up city mogul freestyle because lets face it nobody would be as foolish as to join those games (he hasn't already foed).

it would make nobody want to play random and defy the point
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Re: Random Map

Postby Witt13 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:08 am

zeractal wrote:Don't have it so you can chose specific maps to disable or the people who "really" must have points will disable all bar the one they play.
or someone like Kind Herpes might use it instead of setting up city mogul freestyle because lets face it nobody would be as foolish as to join those games (he hasn't already foed).

it would make nobody want to play random and defy the point


No, its disabled as in you can't use random maps... There was some bugs, and some games got really screwed up. Like an 8 player game on fuedal, or this Game 5015199
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Re: Random Map

Postby MyTurnToWin on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:35 am

In my game Game 5017093 there isn't a map, but the game started. And one player has been eliminated by a neutral player. At least it doesn't show that they lost any points!

I wonder what rank the neutral player is? :lol:
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Re: Random Map

Postby assassin07 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:04 pm

looks like nutral was messing them up
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Re: Random Map

Postby Aesop Jones on Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:59 pm

So if the game's already initialized in a map that doesn't exist, what's going to happen if I hit Begin Turn?
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Re: Random Map

Postby barterer2002 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:50 pm

Essentially I think we're SOL Aesop
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Re: Random Map

Postby lackattack on Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:14 pm

Random Map is back online! :D

It will no longer select maps when there are more players than what the map allows.

If you have a game that got screwed up from that bug please contact Tech Support via the Help page.

Cheers!
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Re: Random Map

Postby assassin07 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:23 pm

lackattack wrote:Random Map is back online! :D

It will no longer select maps when there are more players than what the map allows.

If you have a game that got screwed up from that bug please contact Tech Support via the Help page.

Cheers!


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Re: Random Map

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:33 pm

lackattack wrote:Random Map is back online! :D

It will no longer select maps when there are more players than what the map allows.

If you have a game that got screwed up from that bug please contact Tech Support via the Help page.

Cheers!

While fixing issues, can new people select random maps? I know they cannot join some, but might they end up with them if they pick random? (just checking)
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Re: Random Map

Postby scipioafricanus1 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:36 pm

How about a Random settings selection also? That way you won't know if you get fog or spoils etc.
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Re: Random Map

Postby WidowMakers on Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:53 pm

scipioafricanus1 wrote:How about a Random settings selection also? That way you won't know if you get fog or spoils etc.

I was just about to post this.

What needs to happen is that for all settings that are not selected, if a player hits randomize, all those settings are not revealed until the game starts.

If a player does not want speed games, then they pick CASUAL and the game is randomized for all other settings but Speed.
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Re: Random Map

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:14 pm

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scipioafricanus1 wrote:How about a Random settings selection also? That way you won't know if you get fog or spoils etc.

I was just about to post this.

What needs to happen is that for all settings that are not selected, if a player hits randomize, all those settings are not revealed until the game starts.

If a player does not want speed games, then they pick CASUAL and the game is randomized for all other settings but Speed.

so, everything you leave blank is randomized.
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Re: Random Map

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:58 pm

LED ZEPPELINER wrote:
WidowMakers wrote:
scipioafricanus1 wrote:How about a Random settings selection also? That way you won't know if you get fog or spoils etc.

I was just about to post this.

What needs to happen is that for all settings that are not selected, if a player hits randomize, all those settings are not revealed until the game starts.

If a player does not want speed games, then they pick CASUAL and the game is randomized for all other settings but Speed.

so, everything you leave blank is randomized.


I would think speed games should be excluded from this. There is too much a chance of someone forgetting to click "casual" OR forgetting to see if "casual" had been checked and then winding up with a game that began and ended before they even realized.

I am similarly nervous about freestyle versus Sequential, mostly because it is really important to know exactly when a game is starting in freestyle. This would give the last person or so to join a real advantage. IF this is a random option, I would prefer that the default would be "sequential" and that "either" would be another option, one you would have to actively pick. (more like current start game settings and not blank like in Game Finder)

It might also be nice to specify teams or no teams. On this I am more ambivalent. I said before that I wanted to seen an option for randomized teams period. However, it is one thing to play a game that might be Assassin or Terminator and something else to find you are teamed up with someone who may or may not even like teams. I can see a lot of people not wanting cooks to play Random, etc because of this.
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Re: Random Map

Postby pimphawks70 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:27 pm

How long will it be before people start claiming "Random Map isn't really random".
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Re: Random Map

Postby WidowMakers on Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:40 pm

It should randomize these variables
    -Number of Players
    -Game Type
    -Map
    -Play Order
    -Spoils
    -Reinforcements
    -Fog of War

it would then be truly random and serve its purpose. By eliminating speed, there are no issues with people getting kicked out due to timing.
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