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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:24 am

thegreekdog wrote:=D>


Wait till you try it.. that fog round was a bad idea... it needed to be no fog to make this cool. I really hope lack looks into this!
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Hatchman on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:33 am

I've seen this on another site. All one does is put all armies on a single country and hope one goes early enough to do maximum damage.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby sailorc on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:42 am

Bruceswar wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:=D>


Wait till you try it.. that fog round was a bad idea... it needed to be no fog to make this cool. I really hope lack looks into this!

The fog round is there so you don't just wait to see where your enemy deployed, and base your strategy on that. It would be unfair to whoever placed troops first.

BTW, nice update. =D>
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:46 am

sailorc wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:=D>


Wait till you try it.. that fog round was a bad idea... it needed to be no fog to make this cool. I really hope lack looks into this!

The fog round is there so you don't just wait to see where your enemy deployed, and base your strategy on that. It would be unfair to whoever placed troops first.

BTW, nice update. =D>



It is a freestyle fog round... you all place at the same time, or within the time frame. You also do not know who starts the game which is very bad for team games. Nobody in there right mind would place 5 men next to 7 when the person with 7 gets to start. I will stay far far away from this.


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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:48 am

hatchman wrote:I've seen this on another site. All one does is put all armies on a single country and hope one goes early enough to do maximum damage.



Indeed that is what is taking place.. ugh.. Pass on this one for me until changes are made to it.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby caymanmew on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:50 am

Bruceswar wrote:
hatchman wrote:I've seen this on another site. All one does is put all armies on a single country and hope one goes early enough to do maximum damage.



Indeed that is what is taking place.. ugh.. Pass on this one for me until changes are made to it.


that dose not for sure win you it though i just one a game the guy did that and i deploy then in different places
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:53 am

caymanmew wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
hatchman wrote:I've seen this on another site. All one does is put all armies on a single country and hope one goes early enough to do maximum damage.



Indeed that is what is taking place.. ugh.. Pass on this one for me until changes are made to it.


that dose not for sure win you it though i just one a game the guy did that and i deploy then in different places



Sure it does, if you go first game is over. 100%... Unless dice are so bad you puke. You can take out all the big stacks round 1.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby caymanmew on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:06 am

Bruceswar wrote:
caymanmew wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
hatchman wrote:I've seen this on another site. All one does is put all armies on a single country and hope one goes early enough to do maximum damage.



Indeed that is what is taking place.. ugh.. Pass on this one for me until changes are made to it.


that dose not for sure win you it though i just one a game the guy did that and i deploy then in different places



Sure it does, if you go first game is over. 100%... Unless dice are so bad you puke. You can take out all the big stacks round 1.



he went first i just played better i think
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:21 am

caymanmew wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
caymanmew wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
hatchman wrote:I've seen this on another site. All one does is put all armies on a single country and hope one goes early enough to do maximum damage.



Indeed that is what is taking place.. ugh.. Pass on this one for me until changes are made to it.


that dose not for sure win you it though i just one a game the guy did that and i deploy then in different places



Sure it does, if you go first game is over. 100%... Unless dice are so bad you puke. You can take out all the big stacks round 1.



he went first i just played better i think


Trust me on this. Why do you think so few people play doubles unlimited forts now? Everybody used to play that style. Now most play chained forts. There is a reason for this.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby AAFitz on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:24 am

A whole new era of CC has just started... the possibilities are endless for ways to score points on so many different maps and so many different styles
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby klut2z on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:27 am

sailorc wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:=D>


Wait till you try it.. that fog round was a bad idea... it needed to be no fog to make this cool. I really hope lack looks into this!

The fog round is there so you don't just wait to see where your enemy deployed, and base your strategy on that. It would be unfair to whoever placed troops first.

BTW, nice update. =D>


haven't tried the manual setting, but i do agree with some of the comments that someone with a lucky drop will be doubly lucky with the fog round, just protecting their bonus.

just a suggestion, would it be possible to show which colors own which territories, but keep it "fogged" on the number of troops placed on the map till the game starts? territories can be marked with "x" instead of the number of troops during the fog round.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:30 am

klut2z wrote:
sailorc wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:=D>


Wait till you try it.. that fog round was a bad idea... it needed to be no fog to make this cool. I really hope lack looks into this!

The fog round is there so you don't just wait to see where your enemy deployed, and base your strategy on that. It would be unfair to whoever placed troops first.

BTW, nice update. =D>


haven't tried the manual setting, but i do agree with some of the comments that someone with a lucky drop will be doubly lucky with the fog round, just protecting their bonus.

just a suggestion, would it be possible to show which colors own which territories, but keep it "fogged" on the number of troops placed on the map till the game starts? territories can be marked with "x" instead of the number of troops during the fog round.


It does that already, but still does not solve the problem
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby pimphawks70 on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:32 am

Looks cool...

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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Natewolfman on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:36 am

nice. You have to place it up as im on my way out? I dont get to enjoy this one for quite a while lol
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby waseemalim on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:47 am

wow. this should be awesome.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:50 am

waseemalim wrote:wow. this should be awesome.



That is what I said till I tested it.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby ofthe on Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:54 am

I will forever be remembered as the guy who was first to ever win a manual game:


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I won the first manual speed?

Either way it's awesome! Thanks lack for getting this done


Before I posted that I checked the other games and it turns out I beat you two by 15 seconds. :P
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby musteriuz on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:22 am

I'll avoid this setting at all costs - even if it is on principle only.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Beckytheblondie on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:26 am

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. Double turn freestyle loophole activated. Stall to drop troops and begin first round of play w/o opponent present.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:37 am

Beckytheblondie wrote:NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. Double turn freestyle loophole activated. Stall to drop troops and begin first round of play w/o opponent present.



Bingo! Farmers are with pitchforks in hand and ready to rock.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby trinicardinal on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:47 am

Well we'll have to see how this thing works out. will try it but I don't know If i will play it regularly.... depends on how it goes
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby -Maximus- on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:54 am

Whats wrong with sequential placement and no fog. Yes takes more rounds to even start the game, but would be the real "initial troop placement"
Could even make each map have a specific round limit to get all the troops deployed by forcing X amount of troops be placed per round.

Of course keep the freestyle fog option for those brave souls that like it.
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Re: Manual Initial Troop Placement

Postby PJDH on Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:55 am

There are a lot of problems with this thing I see!!

Well, I think I have a solution!!!
1. Decide the order of play as before which will be enforced in sequential games after the deployment!!
2. Deployment round should be freestyle 24 our turn but FOG/NOFOG option should be the same as the initial settings!! (that way people who wanted the same game as the board can have it entirely)
3. In freestyle games the player who is the last to deploy is treated as he ended the turn so he cant start first until the half of the round time has passed!!

p.s. I dont think that this would be played much even with the corrections especially freestyle and 5 or more player games, but if you like it why not!!

There was an interesting idea a while back, which was rather supported by the CC community!!
It was a choice to play a game without the dice!! (exm. attack 7 to 5: you lose 5 to kill 5, so you advance with only 1). I forgot the exact name of the post...
Maybe You could give it a taught!!
Last edited by PJDH on Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
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