Manual Initial Troop Placement

[karelpietertje]

the double turn loop should be fixed for this as well imo...

[bedub1]

Most excellent. I shall have to go start a game and become the first player to win a game with this style.

[SuicidalSnowman]

I hate to be this way, but I don't see why there is so much negativity to this. Yes, there will always be games that don't work with some settings, or games that are more "farmable" or settings that are unfair.

The answer is, however, don't play those settings.

Personally, I do not like Freestyle because I cannot monitor my games enough to make it work for me. So I only play Sequential. I find plenty of good games to play. I know some people play almost exclusively Freestyle. They enjoy that type of game.

Some people only play speed. I personally like to ponder my moves for more than five minutes. (Seriously.) So I play Casual.

HOWEVER, I think it is awesome that if I have 30 minutes and want to get a game started and finished, I CAN play Speed. The option is there. Its not my favorite, and for the most part I don't play it, but I can if I want to.

Same with Freestyle. I know I will probably lose, but if I want to try it, I CAN play it.

Why would anyone complain about more options?

Sure, Farmers may be able to use this to get points. But 1) Nothing is stopping you from doing the same thing and 2) If a game type is found to be supportive of farmers, in my experience with CC, it falls out of favor with tournaments and clan games. Even though some of the guys on the top of the scoreboard play hundreds of City Mogul games, how many tournaments use it?

More options is great. And the general player use will dictate which types are used and how often, and in what regard they are held.

I am disappointed as well that this isn't the update that will revolutionize how we play games, but at the same time, I can't be angry about getting more choices. Just my two cents.

Cheers,
-Snowman

[ManBungalow]

I love this already

I'm glad you chose to implement this before other updates, lack.
It makes such an improvement to freestyle games already.

More options can only be good.

I suggest that freestylers that they play the following settings :
1 vs 1
Freestyle
Manual deploy
Fog of war


ManB

[whitestazn88]

nice update

[MudPuppy]

I'd like to see:

• No fog during placement phase (for sunny games);
• Knowledge of play order before troop placement begins (this option not critical);
• Manual placement of troops done in a series of rounds;
• Number of troops placed per round as an option (1,2,3...all);
• Freestyle order of placement within placement rounds to keep things moving.

The number of placement rounds would depend on size of map, number of players, and number of troops placed per round but unless the troops placed per round is high, there would be minimal incentive for players to wait to see where others place their troops within each freestyle placement round... thus speeding things along... in theory.

I think this would be a nice compromise for achieving sequential-like fogless placement while trying to keep things moving. The option of choosing number of troops placed per round would provide players a choice for balancing placement speed and placement equitability based on their preferences.

[Bruceswar]

I hate to be this way, but I don't see why there is so much negativity to this. Yes, there will always be games that don't work with some settings, or games that are more "farmable" or settings that are unfair.

The answer is, however, don't play those settings.

Personally, I do not like Freestyle because I cannot monitor my games enough to make it work for me. So I only play Sequential. I find plenty of good games to play. I know some people play almost exclusively Freestyle. They enjoy that type of game.

Some people only play speed. I personally like to ponder my moves for more than five minutes. (Seriously.) So I play Casual.

HOWEVER, I think it is awesome that if I have 30 minutes and want to get a game started and finished, I CAN play Speed. The option is there. Its not my favorite, and for the most part I don't play it, but I can if I want to.

Same with Freestyle. I know I will probably lose, but if I want to try it, I CAN play it.

Why would anyone complain about more options?

Sure, Farmers may be able to use this to get points. But 1) Nothing is stopping you from doing the same thing and 2) If a game type is found to be supportive of farmers, in my experience with CC, it falls out of favor with tournaments and clan games. Even though some of the guys on the top of the scoreboard play hundreds of City Mogul games, how many tournaments use it?

More options is great. And the general player use will dictate which types are used and how often, and in what regard they are held.

I am disappointed as well that this isn't the update that will revolutionize how we play games, but at the same time, I can't be angry about getting more choices. Just my two cents.

Cheers,
-Snowman

Yeah yeah... No seriously while this has great potential it needs some major teaking. Nobody wants a blind freestyle round for this. If the game is fog then ok all is fair in love and war, but if not then no fog should be added. I do not mind the freestyle part as it speeds things up to a playable level. With a few fixes, such as letting people know who starts the game, and taking away the fog it would be tons better.

[Lucky6]

so is this like, whoever finishes deployin first gets to take the turn first?

[-Maximus-]

We already have games that take months....whats the big deal if a game takes 2 weeks to start.

[Rocketry]

Best update since speed games, lack. Ace.

Rocket.

[klut2z]

just tried the manual setting play.
think there is a bug.

my opponent missed his turn during the fog placement. and he started first once the fog is lifted. he got a missed turn bonus. hence, he got an advatage cos he started a game with an additional round of reinforcements.

lack, can you help with correcting this? thanks

[72o]

I just started my first game. This update isn't what I thought it was.

I thought we were going to be able to choose the territories we wanted to occupy first. Like the original gameplay of the board game that shall not be named. Everyone goes in sequential order claiming a territory until the territories are gone, then everyone places an army at a time on whichever territory they choose until they are gone.

Instead, this is more like the gameplay version where you deal out all the cards and then you get X number of armies to put on the territories you received however you see fit. I definitely get why people are complaining that someone will just drop them all on a single territory, and why the first turn is such a significant advantage.

While I am all for new options, and this one certainly provides some new strategies for gameplay, it's not what I was hoping for.

I understand the concern with taking 2 weeks to start a game where you would select your territories in sequential order, but I'm ok with that. Since I'm premium, I could start a whole lot of games and do many of these concurrently.

It might encourage more premium purchases, since this option would be frustrating for those with only 4 slots. Or, you could make it premium-only...

[ask me2]

love this idea it's so much fun

[OliverFA]

That's a major update. A "small" change that represents a very big improvement. Congratulations!

[AndyDufresne]

Keep the feedback coming. Lack will be reviewing the opinions and posts over the next couple of days and longer to figure out how to best form this setting to everyone's wants and needs!


--Andy