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Re: RAIL ASIA [23.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby gimil on Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:24 pm

The new spacing on the title sits much better with me. It makes the title look part of the map now.

I have noticed that 'S.E. Asian' drop shadow in the legends seem to be a few pixels lower than any of its counterparts, I am guessing this isn't intentional?

Finally, I also noticed that the poles behind the title are flat. I am guessing they are suppose to represent a cylindrical pole shape? If so a quick gradient to shade and round them wouldn't hurt, just to give them a 3D touch like the other cylindrical shapes on your map.

Apart from those I will be happy to stamp this once all other graphical discussion is concluded.
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [23.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby cairnswk on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:03 pm

ender516 wrote:What about the solid extrusion trick? Could it help, or is it already there, but not showing much because the N. Chinese and Japanese are directly in front of the vanishing point?

NO ender516, i tried that the other day when i was adjusting the glow behind the names.
It only makes the legibility of the words much worse because the increment of extrusion is only whole numbers and not decimals.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [23.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby cairnswk on Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:16 pm

gimil wrote:The new spacing on the title sits much better with me. It makes the title look part of the map now.

Good

I have noticed that 'S.E. Asian' drop shadow in the legends seem to be a few pixels lower than any of its counterparts, I am guessing this isn't intentional?

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Finally, I also noticed that the poles behind the title are flat. I am guessing they are suppose to represent a cylindrical pole shape? If so a quick gradient to shade and round them wouldn't hurt, just to give them a 3D touch like the other cylindrical shapes on your map.

no, those are meant to be flat, like flat supports with glass in between them.

Apart from those I will be happy to stamp this once all other graphical discussion is concluded.

Thank you. :)
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Re: RAIL ASIA [24.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby cairnswk on Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:37 pm

Version 24 has been updated to address the glows behind the legends names

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Re: RAIL ASIA [23.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby gimil on Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:09 pm

no, those are meant to be flat, like flat supports with glass in between them.


Got you. As a final suggestion how about another line following where the glass would meet the ceiling. Just to get a feel that there is glass there. Something like this?

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Apart from that if there are no concerns brought up in the next couple of hours I shall stamp this.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [23.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:39 pm

Really gimil, next you'll want nuts and bolts, but if it makes you happy then i'll put it in the next version, but really i'd prefer not to as the edges of the steel posts should tell enough of the story...imagination is wonderful when one has something to imagine.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [23.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby gimil on Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:17 pm

cairnswk wrote:Really gimil, next you'll want nuts and bolts, but if it makes you happy then i'll put it in the next version, but really i'd prefer not to as the edges of the steel posts should tell enough of the story...imagination is wonderful when one has something to imagine.


Well to me the steel posts don't. You have earned your stamp but I feel your attitude has been a little poor lately after 28 quenched maps (many that I have contributed to) you would of known that I am only making suggestions to help make your map better.

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Re: RAIL ASIA [23.1.12] V24-P19 Sml/Lge

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:04 pm

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cairnswk wrote:Really gimil, next you'll want nuts and bolts, but if it makes you happy then i'll put it in the next version, but really i'd prefer not to as the edges of the steel posts should tell enough of the story...imagination is wonderful when one has something to imagine.


Well to me the steel posts don't. You have earned your stamp but I feel your attitude has been a little poor lately after 28 quenched maps (many that I have contributed to) you would of known that I am only making suggestions to help make your map better.

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Re: RAIL ASIA [27.1.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:30 am

Version 25
1. Gimil's glass line has been added.
2. i wanted to put some asian gargloyle on the tops of those floors, but after adding them, it looked unconvincing, so i dropped them and made a small steam engine stencil and added that to the roof line fronts to break up those long pieces of nothingness and i think it works well. Of course it is not blantantly obvious what they are, and these probably show better in .pngs, but they are meant to be totally subtle almost like all those character one would see on the front of asian buildings.

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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby cairnswk on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:15 pm

The above version 25 has been updated....
1. There is an opacity at 80% layer across the station and sundry items, hopefully to make the map stand out slightly more; this layer sits under the title and legend text, very subtle but it is there. I always intended to have this layer, and is the same effect applied to Rail Africa map, although more apparent on that map.
2. the above images are converted to pngs, with the addition of the neutral map also on the front page for reference.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby cairnswk on Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:23 pm

SMO - Smolensk? (Yes)
NOV - Novgorod
AQT - Aqtau
NIK - Nikolskiy
SKD - Samarkand (could this be a problem with SDK in Indonesia?
LHS - Lhasa
GLM - Golmud (start of branch line to Lhasa)
LHW - Lanzhou
DHK - Dhaka (Bangladesh)
KUL - Kuala Lumpur
BAQ = Balqash
KER - Kerman
KRY = Karymskoye
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby Gilligan on Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:58 pm

Perhaps make SKD SAK.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby cairnswk on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:20 pm

Gilligan wrote:Perhaps make SKD SAK.

sorry, gilligan i hadf to get up from this desk for a while and walk.

Taishet should be Tayshet

Actually we can't change Samarkand from SKD re my discussion bak here viewtopic.php?f=64&t=101474&start=180#p3482238
and SDK is the officail code for Sandakan in Indonesia, so leave them as be, at least they are in two different continents and notated as such, and they are miles apart.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby Gilligan on Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:14 pm

cairns - I need a blank small version of the map. Latest posts and first post all have the neutral 3 starts on them.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby cairnswk on Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:21 pm

Gilligan wrote:cairns - I need a blank small version of the map. Latest posts and first post all have the neutral 3 starts on them.

Gilligan, i've just re-loaded V25 Small without the neutrals.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby Gilligan on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:38 pm

These coordinates seem okay to me...How bout everyone else?

XML http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/14 ... Final3.xml

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Figured I'd tackle this one before Salem's Switch, so I'll go center those guys now.
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby natty dread on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:20 pm

Actually, I think the problem is the map image itself. Seems like there's inconsistencies in the sizes of the boxes... it looks to me like they are not "hinted" properly, they don't align to the pixel grid the same way, and this causes very small inconsistencies in them and makes some coordinates look skewed...

Maybe cairns could fix this?
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby cairnswk on Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:49 pm

natty dread wrote:Actually, I think the problem is the map image itself. Seems like there's inconsistencies in the sizes of the boxes... it looks to me like they are not "hinted" properly, they don't align to the pixel grid the same way, and this causes very small inconsistencies in them and makes some coordinates look skewed...

Maybe cairns could fix this?

Are you talking about the centering?
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Re: Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby Gilligan on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:01 pm

cairnswk wrote:
natty dread wrote:Actually, I think the problem is the map image itself. Seems like there's inconsistencies in the sizes of the boxes... it looks to me like they are not "hinted" properly, they don't align to the pixel grid the same way, and this causes very small inconsistencies in them and makes some coordinates look skewed...

Maybe cairns could fix this?

Are you talking about the centering?


I think so.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby natty dread on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:03 pm

cairnswk wrote:Are you talking about the centering?


I mean, the stations seem to be slightly different sizes on a sub-pixel level, so that the army numbers don't align with them the same way. It seems that the stations aren't "hinted", ie. they're not consistently aligned with the pixel grid.

If you moved all the stations so that they all align with the pixel grid, and made sure they were all exactly the same size, then the coordinates could be centered consistently in them. Just make sure that the upper left corner of each "army box" is aligned so that it's coordinates are full pixels, for example 160,0 x 154,0 - not 160,2 x 154,6. And then make sure the rectangles are all the same size if they aren't already.

This way, the number centering can be made consistent on the entire map, on both versions.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby Gilligan on Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:29 pm

Posting the XML as an attachment per cairns' request
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby cairnswk on Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:30 pm

Gilligan wrote:Posting the XML as an attachment per cairns' request

Thanks Gilligan, been waiting for this, I'm onto it.
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Re: RAIL ASIA [3.2.12] V25-P20 Sml/Lge/Neutral pngs

Postby cairnswk on Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:51 pm

Gilligan, I've just changed TAI Tayshet to the TAY Tayshet on both map and xml...
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