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Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:00 am
by Industrial Helix
Bruceswar wrote:That beings us to another point... City names or region names? Which to use and why?


I go with a region name if its available, but sometime the city is the best thing to name a region after if you're using the region name elsewhere. So, for example, if you broke a big region in two pieces you could name one after the actual region name and the other after the nearest large city.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:42 am
by natty dread
You should submit a design brief.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:40 pm
by amazzony
Bruceswar wrote:That beings us to another point... City names or region names? Which to use and why?

If Latvia and Lithuania would have "correct" regions (i.e. regions on the map like they are in real life then I would suggest to use the region names). But, as you can't do that (it would be insane to have either 5 or ~100 regions for Latvia, if I remember correctly looking at the real life map) then I would suggest using city names as it's easier to determine biggest city in the region rather than decide what regions are more/less important in there or how you drew the borders exactly. And, for the sake of unity, in my opinion, you should use regions for two countries and cities for the third one.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:53 pm
by theBastard
it seems that you have correct regions of Estonia and also of Lithuania, so you can go with original regions names.
here are as they are and with names:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Lithuania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Estonia

about Latvia, maybe you could go with this and divide some regions (norht Kurzeme/south Kurzeme, east Zemgale/west Zemgale...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_regions_of_Latvia

if not, I agree with amazzony.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:09 pm
by MrBenn
I'm glad to see somebody pick up a map of The Baltics; there was a reasonable draft that somebody started once before, but it never ended up going anywhere - I'm assuming you're looked up the old thread?

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:00 pm
by Bruceswar
MrBenn wrote:I'm glad to see somebody pick up a map of The Baltics; there was a reasonable draft that somebody started once before, but it never ended up going anywhere - I'm assuming you're looked up the old thread?



I check all 3 threads....

Scania13

Captain Walrus

and the one with the draft still there.

I took a look at all the concerns with those maps. I am working on impassables, names etc. I want to keep pressing with the issues at hand and work from there.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:06 am
by Bruceswar
natty_dread wrote:You should submit a design brief.



Good Call I will get on this.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:53 pm
by amazzony
My suggestions for remaining Latvia (cities):

Latvia 1 -> Daugavpils
Latvia 2 -> Kraslava
Latvia 3 -> Ludza
Latvia 4 -> Rēzekne
Latvia 5 -> Balvi
Latvia 6 -> Jēkabpils
Latvia 9 -> Nereta
Latvia 10 -> Ogre
Latvia 12 -> Valka
Latvia 13 -> Valmiera
Latvia 19 -> Saldus
Latvia 22 -> Kuldīga
Jelgava -> Dobele

Used this map, it should be quite accurate: http://www.atozmapsdata.com/zoomify.asp ... atvia_Pol2

Hope it will help.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:37 pm
by AndyDufresne
As always---if you need name and language assistance, check CC's scoreboard for someone living in the region. Most of the time people have proved eager to help when they've been notified about such things!


--Andy

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:55 pm
by thenobodies80
Bruce, how is it going with this one?

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:11 am
by grifftron
cool map bruce, just seen it off your sig and thought i would check it out, ill follow and hopefully can suggest some things later on.

-griff

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 1:54 am
by Bruceswar
thenobodies80 wrote:Bruce, how is it going with this one?



Once I get past whac a mod I had another update coming. :) 136 games tied me up for a bit... I am not letting this one go.

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:53 am
by eurosport
amazzony wrote:My suggestions for remaining Latvia (cities):

Latvia 1 -> Daugavpils
Latvia 2 -> Kraslava
Latvia 3 -> Ludza
Latvia 4 -> Rēzekne
Latvia 5 -> Balvi
Latvia 6 -> Jēkabpils
Latvia 9 -> Nereta
Latvia 10 -> Ogre
Latvia 12 -> Valka
Latvia 13 -> Valmiera
Latvia 19 -> Saldus
Latvia 22 -> Kuldīga
Jelgava -> Dobele


I'm from Latvia and can tell that amazzony is correct. i can only make a little bit correction with writing if you want it in native language. To be correct it was only one correction, other corrections is for towns and cities which are already written in the map.
Oh and made one change of a town - Nereta for Aizkraukle (more known and bigger)
And don't change Dobele for Jelgava as Jelgava is bigger and more known town.

Latvia 1 -> Daugavpils
Latvia 2 -> Krāslava
Latvia 3 -> Ludza
Latvia 4 -> Rēzekne
Latvia 5 -> Balvi
Latvia 6 -> Jēkabpils
Latvia 9 -> Aizkraukle
Latvia 10 -> Ogre
Latvia 12 -> Valka
Latvia 13 -> Valmiera
Latvia 19 -> Saldus
Latvia 22 -> Kuldīga
Riga - Rīga
Limbazi - Limbaži
Cesis - Cēsis
Liepaja - Liepāja

Maybe you don't want to use those macrons and soft signs then just write without them ;)

Re: Baltic States: Version 4 Pg 3 Name Help please!

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:18 am
by Bruceswar
Version 5:

All names added or fixed
New Title Graphic


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Re: Baltic States: Version 5 Pg 5 Impassables?

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:30 am
by Bruceswar
I few quick points...

1. Which rivers are most important?
2. How readable is the font at current for the territory names?
3. How should the bonuses be named? Any suggestions?
4. Anything else you can see that needs to be done right now?

Re: Baltic States: Version 5 Pg 5 Impassables?

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 6:52 am
by natty dread
Bruceswar wrote:I few quick points...

1. Which rivers are most important?
2. How readable is the font at current for the territory names?


1. Use the rivers that fit the gameplay best. That's what I usually do.
2. It's a bit small. You could try other options... Also, you could reduce the opacity of the glow under the text somewhat.

Re: Baltic States: Version 5 Pg 5 Impassables?

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:40 am
by eurosport
Bruceswar wrote:I few quick points...

1. Which rivers are most important?
2. How readable is the font at current for the territory names?
3. How should the bonuses be named? Any suggestions?


1. http://www.raid.lv/laivas/upes/karte_latvijas.gif - these are the biggest rivers in Latvia
2. It is readable but maybe can find little better font.
3. Maybe you can divide bonuses other way in Latvia.. as in Latvia there are 5 regions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administra ... _of_Latvia) and you could divide it by them and name by them how it is in real life.
example:
Riga region - Rīga, Ogre, Limbaži, Tukums
Kurzeme region - Ventspils, Liepāja, Kuldīga, Saldus, Talsi
Vidzeme region - Cēsis, Valmiera, Valka, Madona, Gulbene
Zemgale region - Jelgava, Bauska, Aizkraukle, Jēkabpils
Latgale region - Daugavpils, Krāslava, Rēzekne, Ludza, Balvi

just suggestion if you want it more as in real life.

Re: Baltic States: Version 5 Pg 4 Impassables?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:49 am
by Industrial Helix
Let's get that legend filled out and labeled and then we can get this one into gameplay.

Re: Baltic States: Version 5 Pg 4 Impassables?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:31 pm
by Bruceswar
sure thing... I need to add in some more impassables etc. I will have the next version within this week. Thanks for sticky me!

Re: Baltic States: Version 5 Pg 4 Impassables?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:44 pm
by Bruceswar
Changes:
Re sized the map for less dead space.
Added more impassables (The rest can be talked about in game play)
Labeled the Legend and shifted it around some.
Rivers added in (See above about impassables.)
Moved things around to work in the new dimensions.
Removed the grunge for now until I decide what I want to do with it.

Next Level?

To Do:
New fonts for most everything (Any ideas would be great)
Add in more graphical touches.
Rename the bonus regions. (Any Ideas would be great)
Change the color of West Latvia to something else. Pinkish perhaps.
Army Circles? To add or not to add?

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Re: Baltic States: Version 6 Pg 5 Next Level?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:33 am
by natty dread
Your image is 9 pixels over the normal limit... You can probably crop a bit from the upper edge to get the map to 800.

Re: Baltic States: Version 6 Pg 5 Next Level?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:48 am
by Bruceswar
does the supersize map sizes not cover that?

* Standard maximum sizes: 630x600 pixels for a small map and 840x800 pixels for a large map.
* SuperSize limits: 1000x800 pixels for a small map, and 1400x1200 pixels for a large map

1400 x 1200?

I know it is only 9 pixels, but I am just wondering.


BTW thanks for pointing that out.

Re: Baltic States: Version 6 Pg 5 Next Level?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:49 am
by natty dread
You only get supersize if your map needs it. This map can easily fit in the normal limits.

Re: Baltic States: Version 6 Pg 5 Next Level?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:04 am
by Bruceswar
updated to 800 pixels.

Re: Baltic States: Version 5 Pg 4 Impassables?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:23 am
by koontz1973
Bruceswar wrote:Rename the bonus regions. (Any Ideas would be great)
Change the color of West Latvia to something else. Pinkish perhaps.
Army Circles? To add or not to add?



No idea on the names but they do seem OK, as long as they are not figments of your imagination. ;)
Do not change the colour or it will be to close to East Latvia. It looks fine as it is and melds nicely in with the colour above. It is the big block of red next to it that seems out of place. Try it less bold. And see how that works.
Add the circles. Even if you use the normal 22 pixel army circle png, you will see how it all fits into territs.