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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:45 pm

Looks okay to me! Sorry, forgot to copy-paste my comment from our PM exchange.

XML is on its way! I have the coordinates on the large finished; I just gotta work on the small coordinates and work on/find a solution to a drop issue.

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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [5.6.12] V17-P17 Small & Lge

Postby Nola_Lifer on Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:10 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:...
Is this Cairns guy a newbie or what? ;)


Yeh, he's a newbie, everyone wants something of him, nobody listens to him, he makes heaps of mistakes and doesn't sometimes follow guidelines, but gees...he's pretty creative at times. :lol: :lol:
Oh, i forgot to add...can't play the game for nuts very well either.


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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:39 am

OK. exams are over for a couple of weeks...do we need to do anything here?

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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:03 am

I don't think I have any other suggestions...hm.


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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:27 pm

I'm wondering if my xml person has gone AWOL :lol:
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby Pirlo on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:59 pm

nice job as usual!
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:18 pm

Pirlo wrote:nice job as usual!

thank-you Pirlo :)
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby swimmerdude99 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:31 pm

WOW just now seen this, why hadn't I seen it?! I love it :)
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby Nola_Lifer on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:30 am

Your probably gonna hate me for this, I like the idea of marking the utilities but the lil house thing just doesn't seem to fit. I am not sure if it is the 2'd effect on it. You have each tribe member and they look awesome and then you have that little white hut. It seems a bit forced in.
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:45 am

Nola_Lifer wrote:Your probably gonna hate me for this, I like the idea of marking the utilities but the lil house thing just doesn't seem to fit. I am not sure if it is the 2'd effect on it. You have each tribe member and they look awesome and then you have that little white hut. It seems a bit forced in.

You're right, i do hate you LOL. JK.
Yes they are forced, the same as the white diamonds for the killer neutrals....reason...to be easiliy found. :)
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [10.6.12] V18-P17 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:47 pm

I haven't heard from Sully in quite a while and no-one seems to know what has happened to him...
therefore the xml will be done by nolefan5311. :)
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:03 pm

Some issues re borders and mini-map arose from noefan5311 doing the xml.
These hopefully have been addressed in these newest images...version 19

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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:11 pm

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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:28 pm


thanks nolefan5311
can you check the centering for Gerehu Wan and Ples Westim :)
sorry i had moved these and thought you would have checked this.
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:35 pm

cairnswk wrote:

thanks nolefan5311
can you check the centering for Gerehu Wan and Ples Westim :)
sorry i had moved these and thought you would have checked this.


I didn't realize you had moved them so when I loaded it to double check it I noticed it. The correct version is posted above.
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:43 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:...
I didn't realize you had moved them so when I loaded it to double check it I noticed it. The correct version is posted above.

Thanks nolefan5311

I want to discuss something about gameplay again, and if need be alter the gameplay accordingly.

On the front page there is this:
Gameplay type:Classic
Gameplay features:Ranged attacks, starting neutrals, killre neutrals, impassables.

But to my way of thinking now that i have read other discussion etc, I am thinking that these features are not a classic game at all.

So, my question is...what has to be done to turn this map more towwards the classic style of play.
And having said that, would it be better for the map to be that way, considering it is one of the cities on the classic map.
Indeed, should there be a push to create the cities on the classic map more in accordance with standard gameplay rather than using gameplay features of the xml.

I think there is plenty of time for this discussion....Any thoughts appreciated? :)
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby nolefan5311 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:36 pm

For one, a classic gameplay style of map isn't going to have starting positions or a losing conditioning. Most of them also don't have the killer neutrals or bonus structures like the public utilities or the parks bonus. They're straight geographical maps with contiguous bonus zones and that's about it.

Personally, I like the GP of the map and don't think it should be changed. I see your concern with calling it a "Classic City" map, but honestly, adding 42 maps to the current rotation that aren't unique at all other than they are cities featured on the classic map is probably a bit silly. Ideally, in my opinion, each map created based on the classic map should have it's own unique GP characteristics.
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:32 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:For one, a classic gameplay style of map isn't going to have starting positions or a losing conditioning. Most of them also don't have the killer neutrals or bonus structures like the public utilities or the parks bonus. They're straight geographical maps with contiguous bonus zones and that's about it.

Personally, I like the GP of the map and don't think it should be changed. I see your concern with calling it a "Classic City" map, but honestly, adding 42 maps to the current rotation that aren't unique at all other than they are cities featured on the classic map is probably a bit silly. Ideally, in my opinion, each map created based on the classic map should have it's own unique GP characteristics.

Ouch, but convinced about what you say. :)
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby Nola_Lifer on Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:41 am

nolefan5311 wrote:For one, a classic gameplay style of map isn't going to have starting positions or a losing conditioning. Most of them also don't have the killer neutrals or bonus structures like the public utilities or the parks bonus. They're straight geographical maps with contiguous bonus zones and that's about it.

Personally, I like the GP of the map and don't think it should be changed. I see your concern with calling it a "Classic City" map, but honestly, adding 42 maps to the current rotation that aren't unique at all other than they are cities featured on the classic map is probably a bit silly. Ideally, in my opinion, each map created based on the classic map should have it's own unique GP characteristics.


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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:37 pm

the 88s version 19

These 88 files are replaced by new ones below.

nolefan5311...
can you have a look over the centering of the xml again please...especially on the large map....there are many that are off-centre...and this won't pass xml stamping.
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:27 am

nolefan5311 wrote:For one, a classic gameplay style of map isn't going to have starting positions or a losing conditioning. Most of them also don't have the killer neutrals or bonus structures like the public utilities or the parks bonus. They're straight geographical maps with contiguous bonus zones and that's about it.

Personally, I like the GP of the map and don't think it should be changed. I see your concern with calling it a "Classic City" map, but honestly, adding 42 maps to the current rotation that aren't unique at all other than they are cities featured on the classic map is probably a bit silly. Ideally, in my opinion, each map created based on the classic map should have it's own unique GP characteristics.

Agreed definitely.


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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:58 pm

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nolefan5311 wrote:For one, a classic gameplay style of map isn't going to have starting positions or a losing conditioning. Most of them also don't have the killer neutrals or bonus structures like the public utilities or the parks bonus. They're straight geographical maps with contiguous bonus zones and that's about it.

Personally, I like the GP of the map and don't think it should be changed. I see your concern with calling it a "Classic City" map, but honestly, adding 42 maps to the current rotation that aren't unique at all other than they are cities featured on the classic map is probably a bit silly. Ideally, in my opinion, each map created based on the classic map should have it's own unique GP characteristics.

Agreed definitely.


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Appreciate you thoughts Andy. :)
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby nolefan5311 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:50 pm

Here you go cairns.
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Re: Classic Cities :Pot Mosbi [8.7.12] V19-P18 Small & Lge

Postby cairnswk on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:26 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:Here you go cairns.

Thanks for that nolefan5311
but now i can't check it anyways, i've uploaded the xmls for both this and sydney to fileden and peejee
and neither of them are working in the xml tool map inspect page - image works...but not the xml, yet the xml test for errors tells me there is nothing wrong with either file. everything is OK for the classic map inspect - the default.
seems as though the tool is not picking up the xml at all.
you're old file works OK.
seems as though the problem is the undersocre characters.
Go figure...bloody mad at this :evil: :roll:

PS. Yes the problem is the underscore characters i had in filenames....for some reason the xml tool does not like this character.
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