koontz1973 wrote:Agreed, but Dana said he wanted to get the GP sorted. Any nobodies warned players about making non map related posts. So if and when dana gets the GP stamp, we can all butcher his graphics then. There is no point right now, trying to do this apart from getting rid of he elements that do not work like the cow pat, flies and grass.
Um, this is map related. And besides, mapmaking is not compartmentalized. Even if a mapmaker is working on gameplay and hasn't received the GP stamp it does not mean that no one can give feedback for things other than gameplay. If there are problems with the underlying concept, or the execution of said concept, then it needs to be sorted before the gameplay is fixed in place, because after that it can't be helped.
So there is very much point in doing this right now. The map does not work as it is now. There's no theme, or the theme that is supposedly being attempted for is not showing on the map. The problem is that the mapmaker is just trying to use the theme as an excuse to do that same old "just a cow map" and do minimal or no changes to it at all. But you can't just artificially plaster a theme on top of a map. It just doesn't work, never has.
Therefore, this whole map needs to be redesigned. The map needs to be designed around that butcher theme, in such a way that the graphics and gameplay both support the theme. Not just add/remove some stuff, or do some minor cosmetic changes... if your car tire is full of holes you don't keep patching it every 2 kilometers, you just get a new tire.