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Re: Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby skillfusniper33 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:42 am

I don't know if it is me or just possibly the color combination. But do the mountains in the North section of the lower island look a bit off. Specifically the ones that border Picton. I get the feeling that they are pyramids rather than mountains, but it could also be the color combination as well since I really can't see the extra detail in the ridges (as shown in the boarders between the bonus's of West Coast and South Canterbury).

It might also occur in the Southland bonus. I didn't have any issue with them when I first looked at the map but after I saw that in the other location it kinda looks like the same thing happened.

Anyway just my novice opinion

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Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby nudge on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:12 am

I like the look and overall feel of the map and looking forward to playing it.

But given that there was a call out for Graphic Input I thought I would have a look...

1. The mountains could do with some white Snow caps to make them stand out more. Especially the Southern Island around "Queenstown" as it is renowned for its Snow. Please note you have it as "Queentown" on the map bottom right.
2. The ocean can do with some sort of rendering or perhaps even a background image (ie Kiwi bird) similar to what we are starting to see in new or revamped maps (ie USA Maps)

Anyway that's my pennies worth.

Great work cairnswk
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Re: Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:23 pm

I don't know...the backdrop seems kind of flat to me...maybe a center to edge gradient from the map?

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Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby jbcb on Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:30 am

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Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:50 am

Just bumpiong this so i can see what is going on...
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Re: Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:56 pm

skillfusniper33 wrote:I don't know if it is me or just possibly the color combination. But do the mountains in the North section of the lower island look a bit off. Specifically the ones that border Picton. I get the feeling that they are pyramids rather than mountains, but it could also be the color combination as well since I really can't see the extra detail in the ridges (as shown in the boarders between the bonus's of West Coast and South Canterbury).

It might also occur in the Southland bonus. I didn't have any issue with them when I first looked at the map but after I saw that in the other location it kinda looks like the same thing happened.

Anyway just my novice opinion

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Skill. thanks for your opinion... :)
yes those mountains do look like pyramids and it has partly to do with the colouring, but i have altered their shape now in V18, and also the ones in Southland.
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Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:59 pm

nudge wrote:I like the look and overall feel of the map and looking forward to playing it.

But given that there was a call out for Graphic Input I thought I would have a look...

1. The mountains could do with some white Snow caps to make them stand out more. Especially the Southern Island around "Queenstown" as it is renowned for its Snow. Please note you have it as "Queentown" on the map bottom right.
2. The ocean can do with some sort of rendering or perhaps even a background image (ie Kiwi bird) similar to what we are starting to see in new or revamped maps (ie USA Maps)

Anyway that's my pennies worth.

Great work cairnswk

Thanks nudge and for your opinion :)
I have re-done the Alps with snow, beefed up the Alps, and fixed the Queenstown spelling
As to the ocean, i have also redone the areas around the mini-map and added your kiwi in the background.
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Re: Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:02 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:I don't know...the backdrop seems kind of flat to me...maybe a center to edge gradient from the map?
-rd

rdsrds2120, thanks also for your opinion.
i do realise the ocean is a bit flat, and have experimented several times now with some kind of gradient, but i seem to always get the wrong thing and don't like it. a radial gradient from the centre makes it look like someone has shone a great big light on it and it si quiet distracting.
For now, i'll leave it as is but if someone else should mention it, i'll have another go later.
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Re: New Zealand [16.8] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:03 pm

So here is version 18 with the changes mentioned above.

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Re: Re: New Zealand [4.8.12] V17-P14 GFX?

Postby Nola_Lifer on Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:03 pm

cairnswk wrote:
rdsrds2120 wrote:I don't know...the backdrop seems kind of flat to me...maybe a center to edge gradient from the map?
-rd

rdsrds2120, thanks also for your opinion.
i do realise the ocean is a bit flat, and have experimented several times now with some kind of gradient, but i seem to always get the wrong thing and don't like it. a radial gradient from the centre makes it look like someone has shone a great big light on it and it si quiet distracting.
For now, i'll leave it as is but if someone else should mention it, i'll have another go later.


I think the flat back is a good fit for the map to be honest.
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Re: Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:12 pm

Ahh ... a kiwi!
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Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby isaiah40 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:16 pm

Image Can you do these mountains the same way you did the ones above them?
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Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:20 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Image Can you do these mountains the same way you did the ones above them?

PLease advise which mtns you're talking about pls ;)
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Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby isaiah40 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:02 pm

cairnswk wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:Image Can you do these mountains the same way you did the ones above them?

PLease advise which mtns you're talking about pls ;)

The ones on the north side of Nelson Lakes.
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Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:25 pm

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cairnswk wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:Image Can you do these mountains the same way you did the ones above them?

PLease advise which mtns you're talking about pls ;)

The ones on the north side of Nelson Lakes.

north side of Nelson lakes...they have already been re-done :)
as were the ones on the north side of M.V.
and the ones between Karamea and Nelson N.P.

yoy're not meening da ones on da sout' side of Nelson Loikes are ye?
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Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:50 am

cairnswk wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:Image Can you do these mountains the same way you did the ones above them?

PLease advise which mtns you're talking about pls ;)

The ones on the north side of Nelson Lakes.

north side of Nelson lakes...they have already been re-done :)
as were the ones on the north side of M.V.
and the ones between Karamea and Nelson N.P.

yoy're not meening da ones on da sout' side of Nelson Loikes are ye?

Sorry just one of my vague days. Anyways, yes the south side of Nelson Lakes and M.V.
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Re: New Zealand [16.8] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:00 am

cairnswk wrote:So here is version 18 with the changes mentioned above.


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isaiah40 wrote:
cairnswk wrote:...
north side of Nelson lakes...they have already been re-done :)
as were the ones on the north side of M.V.
and the ones between Karamea and Nelson N.P.

yoy're not meening da ones on da sout' side of Nelson Loikes are ye?

Sorry just one of my vague days. Anyways, yes the south side of Nelson Lakes and M.V.


Pls refresh for the above version...those mtns are done :)
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Re: Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby nudge on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:44 am

I like the Kiwi bird, it breaks up a larger blue area.

The thicker dark blue around the bonus islands helps with the ocean too.

I like the Snow Mountains they look great =D>, and I would suggest using a similar look around MT Reupehu and Wellington Mountains.

A small note, the beefed up mountains makes the line between Miford Sound and Te Anau almost non-existant, but if that size border is acceptable then leave it.

When can we play :-)
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Re: Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:15 pm

nudge wrote:I like the Kiwi bird, it breaks up a larger blue area.

The thicker dark blue around the bonus islands helps with the ocean too.

I like the Snow Mountains they look great =D>, and I would suggest using a similar look around MT Reupehu and Wellington Mountains.

A small note, the beefed up mountains makes the line between Miford Sound and Te Anau almost non-existant, but if that size border is acceptable then leave it.

When can we play :-)

Thanks nudge.
i'd rather leave the northern mountains un-snowed...i know the volcano gets some snow but tt's nowhere near as much as the southern alps.
i'll see about fixing the line between Te Anu and Milford.
Soon i hope for play.
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Re: Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby thehippo8 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:16 pm

Hey there ... actually a little snow on Mt Ruapehu (the single mountain to the upper right of the white circle - that is, the one closest to Lake Taupo) woudl be great because that is a very popular ski resort but yeah, leave the others without snow.
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Re: Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:10 pm

thehippo8 wrote:Hey there ... actually a little snow on Mt Ruapehu (the single mountain to the upper right of the white circle - that is, the one closest to Lake Taupo) woudl be great because that is a very popular ski resort but yeah, leave the others without snow.

Done! two mnts have snow now, and the te anua/milford border is fixed.
Pls refresh for the v18 above.
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Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby Oneyed on Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:11 pm

the mountains coloured by colour as region in which they lie do not look fine at some places. especialy between Kaikoura and M.V., Hurunui and Nelson Lakes.
could you use (maybe everywhere) mountains as are between Hurunui and A.P.?

just my two cents...

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Re: New Zealand [16.8.12] V18-P15 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:37 pm

Oneyed wrote:the mountains coloured by colour as region in which they lie do not look fine at some places. especialy between Kaikoura and M.V., Hurunui and Nelson Lakes.
could you use (maybe everywhere) mountains as are between Hurunui and A.P.?

just my two cents...

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Oneyed...at some point i have to say no.
and my reasons are:
...that i have already re-done those mountains with colour as requested by isaiah40
...i have tried to gain a look that all the mountains are not the same hence i don't want to use one style everywhere
...space is an issue in some areas where mountains are going to be smaller than in other areas because they have to fit
...i am quite happy with these mountains as they are, as can i imagine others might be...
...we culd go on forever trying to satisfy requests for changes to mountains and that is not my intention to keep doing that
so i am going to cut this off now
...there are 14 different type of singular mountains used in this map and i think that is enough NZ flavour for anyone. :)
appreciate your post. :)
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Re: New Zealand [18.8.12] V19-P16 GFX?

Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:52 pm

Version 19
the tikis and planes have been given a bevel...planes it is obvious, tikis less so but they are intricate and small

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Re: Re: New Zealand [18.8.12] V19-P16 GFX?

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:39 pm

Have u considered using something less modern in place of the planes to keep with the old-world vibe of this map?
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