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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Gilligan on Mon May 06, 2013 7:55 am

Oneyed wrote:I tried to look/download Giligans xml but I got this notice:
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You don't have permission to access /files/2008/11/14/2187148/Frag.xml on this server."

where can I find current xml and do these small updates?

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Mon May 06, 2013 8:59 am

thanks guys.
and how can I upload changed xml (I edited it in Notapad)?

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btw, here is edited xml in Notapad:
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Gilligan on Mon May 06, 2013 7:17 pm

Oneyed wrote:thanks guys.
and how can I upload changed xml (I edited it in Notapad)?

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btw, here is edited xml in Notapad:
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after you click "post a reply", underneath the "submit" area it says "upload attachment". use that.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Tue May 07, 2013 12:11 am

here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby isaiah40 on Tue May 07, 2013 12:25 am

Oneyed wrote:here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

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You need to save it as .xml not .txt

If you can't save it as .xml, you can download the Notepad++ which is free and you will be able to save it as .xml
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Tue May 07, 2013 2:29 am

isaiah40 wrote:
Oneyed wrote:here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

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You need to save it as .xml not .txt

If you can't save it as .xml, you can download the Notepad++ which is free and you will be able to save it as .xml


thank you. here it is:

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue May 07, 2013 4:32 am

I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue May 07, 2013 12:46 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.


I think it's always the same BOB issue we already reported to the Tech guys. Look here: viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049&start=240#p4090687
Maybe ender516 is the right guy to contact about it. ;)
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue May 07, 2013 1:10 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.


I think it's always the same BOB issue we already reported to the Tech guys. Look here: viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049&start=240#p4090687
Maybe ender516 is the right guy to contact about it. ;)
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Ah, you're right. I never actually pulled the bonus, it was just highlighted. Thanks!
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Sat May 11, 2013 11:03 am

here is updated xml

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby iancanton on Wed May 22, 2013 4:04 pm

while we're waiting for the update to appear, have u thought about the words that u want to show in the game finder? although fragmentation of csfr is technically correct, i think this is an unattractive name, since over 90% of players will not know what csfr is before they play this map. is czecho-slovak fragmentation any better for the game finder (but keeping the old title on the map itself)? players who are looking for a czech map will easily find czecho-slovak fragmentation, while those interested in slovakia might guess that it's part of a czecho-slovakia map. in a list of 200 maps, very few players will think of looking for something starting with f.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Thu May 23, 2013 2:10 pm

this is good notice, ian and thanks for it :)

well, what about "Czecho-Slovakia, fragmentation"?

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Gilligan on Thu May 23, 2013 6:30 pm

I will nudge isaiah about sending the new file :)
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby chapcrap on Thu May 23, 2013 9:52 pm

I think a name change would probably be fine.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Jippd on Thu May 23, 2013 11:02 pm

Oneyed wrote:this is good notice, ian and thanks for it :)

well, what about "Czecho-Slovakia, fragmentation"?

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I don't think the title should have a comma in it.

Name change to me doesn't matter one way or another but I think it should be without the comma.

Could also do "Fragmentation of Czecho-Slovakia"
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Gilligan on Fri May 24, 2013 10:37 pm

I like ian's: czecho-slovak fragmentation
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - name change, page 41

Postby Oneyed on Mon May 27, 2013 2:42 pm

Gilligan wrote:I like ian's: czecho-slovak fragmentation


yes sounds the best. "Czecho-Slovakia, fragmentation" sounds better to me because it has complet names of both countries in...
but if this is too complicated or comma in name is bad thing I agreed with ianĀ“s idea.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Dukasaur on Mon May 27, 2013 5:05 pm

Jippd wrote:
Oneyed wrote:this is good notice, ian and thanks for it :)

well, what about "Czecho-Slovakia, fragmentation"?

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I don't think the title should have a comma in it.

Name change to me doesn't matter one way or another but I think it should be without the comma.

Could also do "Fragmentation of Czecho-Slovakia"

The latter doesn't answer iancanton's original objection, that people searching alphabetically will be looking under "C" for Czechoslovakia, not "F".

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Gilligan wrote:I like ian's: czecho-slovak fragmentation


yes sounds the best. "Czecho-Slovakia, fragmentation" sounds better to me because it has complet names of both countries in...
but if this is too complicated or comma in name is bad thing I agreed with ianĀ“s idea.

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I don't like either. It has become fashionable to hyphenate "Czecho-slovak" in the years since the breakup, but it was NEVER hyphenated while Czechoslovakia still existed.

Here, from the Wikimedia Commons, an example of a Czechoslovak passport, in Czech, Russian, French, and English:
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Czechoslovak Fragmentation sounds perfectly adequate. No comma, no hyphen, no partridge in a pear tree. Just Czechoslovak Fragmentation.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - name change, page 41

Postby Gilligan on Mon May 27, 2013 9:39 pm

I agree with the no comma, but I think that the hyphen makes sense. Of course, I don't live there, and don't know the general rule of thumb about it there. But since that they are separated now, it might help to separate with a hyphen here.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - name change, page 41

Postby Oneyed on Tue May 28, 2013 2:41 am

the hyphen was (is) used in Slovak Republic. here is more about this problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen_War

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PS: must be name written on the map the same as official name of the map or it could stay as it is now (on map)?
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - name change, page 41

Postby Dukasaur on Wed May 29, 2013 2:26 am

Oneyed wrote:the hyphen was (is) used in Slovak Republic. here is more about this problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen_War

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PS: must be name written on the map the same as official name of the map or it could stay as it is now (on map)?

Very interesting. That is something I did not know. So it is all your fault....:P


And I am not a blue nametag, but I think there is no need to change the map. There are plenty of maps out there (Conquer Club in Space, War of the Triple Alliance, etc.) where only a short form of the name appears in the list but the map keeps the whole thing.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - name change, page 41

Postby betiko on Wed May 29, 2013 3:56 am

Looks wierd with a hyphen. Would look ok if it was czech-slovak, but that s the name of an ex country that i ve always seen written in 1 word.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - name change, page 41

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:59 pm

I think the map was updated with the latest file. Also it is now listed as Czecho Slovak Fragmentation per mapmaker request.

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - name change, page 41

Postby chapcrap on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:57 pm

I saw the name change went through. :)

Here's a tournament for this map, if anyone is interested: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=191739
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - name change, page 41

Postby iancanton on Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:05 pm

i confirm that new games are starting with n3 on both praha and bratislava. so far, of the 15 completed games on this map that have used the new xml, starting from Game 12833388, both capitals were attacked successfully in 4 games, praha was the sole capital taken in 3 games and neither capital was occupied in 8 games. there were no games where bratislava was the sole capital taken.

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