Czecho Slovak Fragmentation [Quenched]

[cairnswk]

Oneyed, attached is the xml i have done so far.
But when run through the xml tool i get this warning...

My question is....can Kladno attack Praha...and all the rest?

yes. capitals could be attacked from region they are in, from towns in the same region and from town adjacent by railway. and all these 8 teritories (StČK, Kladno, Beroun, Tábor, ZSK, Trenčín, Kúty, Nitra) are codded as starting positions. the rest teritories will be divided random.

Also, in the map, you have both kraj and kraje...is this plural?

right.

Oneyed

Thank-you for that info.

Test results:
Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in FCSFR4_200113.xml (18 continents, 35 territories)

Finished xml as attached and in the XML checker.
Oneyed, i do think you should put on map something about kraj and towns being able to assault capitals in those regions and vice-versa...just to clarify for the players.

[Oneyed]

Oneyed, i do think you should put on map something about kraj and towns being able to assault capitals in those regions and vice-versa...just to clarify for the players.

I will find any space in legend for this.

Oneyed

[Jippd]

Are you saying you can't find space oneyed?

[Oneyed]

Are you saying you can't find space oneyed?

not as I want...
but could this works?

Click image to enlarge.

Oneyed

[cairnswk]

Oneyed, almost there...perhaps (my thoughts only)...
Praha - capital, borders Kraj and Towns in its Kraj
- is not included in town or Kraj bonus
+1...
-1...
...less wordy, yes?

see what others think also

[Oneyed]

much better, cairns

explained capitals connections

Click image to enlarge.

Click image to enlarge.

Oneyed

[Gilligan]

Oneyed, attached is the xml i have done so far.
But when run through the xml tool i get this warning...

My question is....can Kladno attack Praha...and all the rest?

yes. capitals could be attacked from region they are in, from towns in the same region and from town adjacent by railway. and all these 8 teritories (StČK, Kladno, Beroun, Tábor, ZSK, Trenčín, Kúty, Nitra) are codded as starting positions. the rest teritories will be divided random.

Also, in the map, you have both kraj and kraje...is this plural?

right.

Oneyed

Thank-you for that info.

Test results:
Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in FCSFR4_200113.xml (18 continents, 35 territories)

Finished xml as attached and in the XML checker.
Oneyed, i do think you should put on map something about kraj and towns being able to assault capitals in those regions and vice-versa...just to clarify for the players.

Cairns,

For some reason the download attachment is not working for me. Can you download it to a website and link it please?

[cairnswk]

...Cairns,
For some reason the download attachment is not working for me. Can you download it to a website and link it please?

Gill. you'll have to open this in wordpad, as it's the only program that keeps all the accents etc.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12/21 ... 200113.xml

[Gilligan]

...Cairns,
For some reason the download attachment is not working for me. Can you download it to a website and link it please?

Gill. you'll have to open this in wordpad, as it's the only program that keeps all the accents etc.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12/21 ... 200113.xml

the program I use took the older version of the xml, so I'm not sure what went wrong

anyway, I will have this checked. thanks.

[iancanton]

If you put positions into this game, you will harm the larger games and team games.

as for the easiest bonus one need to hold a minimum of 4 territories
I don't see any need to code starting position

ok, pamoa. and thanks

so map will be without starting positions. there will be just Praha and Bratislava codded as neutrals n4. the rest of territories will be random deployment.

Oneyed

remember that it has to be coded without positions!

ian.

[cairnswk]

So are we now removing the start positions?

[Oneyed]

So are we now removing the start positions?

it looks that yes. I forgot that there were discusion about this. sorry guys

Oneyed

[Gilligan]

Hello cairns,

nobodies has posted why it has been taking so long for this xml...please read here. viewtopic.php?p=4061241#

The change is extremely small, yet extremely important. All you need to do is all <required> tags with the smallest required amount on each of your collections.

After you do that, I'll be happy to finally stamp this. Also, I see some xml chat up top - if you could please include the post with the final xml what has changed, I'd be very appreciative.

[cairnswk]

Hello cairns,

nobodies has posted why it has been taking so long for this xml...please read here. viewtopic.php?p=4061241#

The change is extremely small, yet extremely important. All you need to do is all <required> tags with the smallest required amount on each of your collections.

After you do that, I'll be happy to finally stamp this. Also, I see some xml chat up top - if you could please include the post with the final xml what has changed, I'd be very appreciative.

Gilligan.
You may have read my computer has been down, now i am still putting it together with software, and my priority is exactly my computer before CC
As well uni is calling.
Please feel free to do what you wish with this xml.
Sorry Oneyed.

[Oneyed]

Sorry Oneyed.

things happend. thanks for your help and get new PC

Oneyed

[Gilligan]

Sorry Oneyed.

things happend. thanks for your help and get new PC

Oneyed

I will check the xml and gladly add any of the required tags. No need to hold this map up if we don't need to!

[Gilligan]

One thing: you have SR Kraj bonus listed twice so I removed this part of the code:

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<name>Kraj (SR)</name>
<bonuses>
<bonus required="1">2</bonus>
<bonus required="2">2</bonus>
<bonus required="3">2</bonus>
</bonuses>
<components>
<continent>ZSK Kraj (SR)</continent>
<continent>SSK Kraj (SR)</continent>
<continent>VSK Kraj (SR)</continent>
</components>
</continent>

Because a few lines earlier you have this code,

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<continent>
<name>ZSK Kraj (SR)</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>ZSK</territory>
<territory>Kúty</territory>
<territory>Nitra</territory>
<territory>Trenčín</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>SSK Kraj (SR)</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>SSK</territory>
<territory>Žilina</territory>
<territory>Banská Bystrica</territory>
<territory>Lučenec</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>VSK Kraj (SR)</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>VSK</territory>
<territory>Poprad</territory>
<territory>Prešov</territory>
<territory>Košice</territory>
</components>
</continent>

I have also added the required tag for the collection CR bonus. I also eliminated the starting positions as that is what seems to have gone on here.

That said, here is the newest and complete xml: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/14 ... 8/Frag.xml



At long last!

[Oneyed]

I check it, mainly names and it is fine. thank you Gilligan

Oneyed

[thenobodies80]

Last Call

The map has passed through rigorous gameplay and graphics examinations and all major concerns have been addressed. The XML has been written, checked and stmaped, so if you have any other concerns, please make your voice heard.

If after a reasonable amount of time there has not been any reasonable objection or protest, the map will be stamped and submitted for the Beta period.

Please, post questions and concerns if any.

thenobodies80

[Jippd]

Oneyed do you think it is clear which region is part of the CR and which region is part of the SR? I don't know if the details on the map explain it well enough.

Possible solutions:

A line to divide the SR and CR
Labeling for SR/CR in conjuction with the border line
Unique outlining for SR regions compared to CR regions
Explaining a SR kraj is composed of 4 regions and a CR kraj is 3 regions.

I know this is somewhat explained by explaining the kraj in the SR and CR boxes but I wonder if it can be more clear for people that are not familiar with the map.

You could also just wait and if it goes live see if there is confusion for people or not.

[Oneyed]

You could also just wait and if it goes live see if there is confusion for people or not.

this

Oneyed

[thenobodies80]

Oneyed do you think it is clear which region is part of the CR and which region is part of the SR? I don't know if the details on the map explain it well enough.

The two small minimap don't help for that? I know that they are not very visible but personally I can distiniguish easily the border between CR and SR with the colors and their shapes.

I know this is somewhat explained by explaining the kraj in the SR and CR boxes but I wonder if it can be more clear for people that are not familiar with the map.

I have to say that I agree with this. The first time it took a bit to understand what was a kraj. Like you said the explanation is there, but it's not 2 seconds thing; you need to look at the bottom right legend and after excluding every thing that is listed into there, you can find out what a kraj is.
Actually I think that understand what a kraj is (from a gameplay point of view) the weakest point of the map.
I never said a word about that just because the map is visually simple and there're no extended legends, so it takes just few mins to study it.

Nobodies


P.s. @ Oneyed, into the OP leave only the latest big and small version posted as images, everything else could be posted as links instead of using spoilers. It will take a lot less to display the map.

[Oneyed]

ok. I followed your advices and did some changes. in the text is written:
Kraj - coloured REGION and 2/3 Towns inside its border

and I add names of Czech Republic and Slovak Republic to map (in big one, for small one I added on CR/SR)

Click image to enlarge.

Click image to enlarge.

maybe this could helps. thanks guys for advices.

P.s. @ Oneyed, into the OP leave only the latest big and small version posted as images, everything else could be posted as links instead of using spoilers. It will take a lot less to display the map.

sorry, but how can I add only link instead of picture (map)?

Oneyed

[thenobodies80]

I prefer the version without the names tbh.
The explanation works great!

To add only links use the [url] tag, for example.

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[url]http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8490/840x80001.png[/url]

I edited the first post so you know how to do it in future.

Nobodies

[Oneyed]

I prefer the version without the names tbh.

me too .
but there could be two reasons why have them:
1, they made clear where is CR and where is SR.
2, when you look at background map (and Czechoslovak map is its component) each state has its name written there.

but have them on map or not depends on how much the names help to identify CR or SR...

The explanation works great!

thanks.

To add only links use the [url] tag, for example.
I edited the first post so you know how to do it in future.

thank you

Oneyed