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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - redrawn, 23/02, page 37

Postby Oneyed on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:30 pm

another site. looks better, no?

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - another hosting site, 25/02, pag

Postby thenobodies80 on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:45 pm

Yeah, much better ;)

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - another hosting site, 25/02, pag

Postby Gilligan on Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:51 pm

Oneyed, I I appreciate the credit for some XML assist, but honestly it isn't "my name on the map" worthy. All I did was really check it, cairns did all the rest. If the XML checker got his name on every map he checked, forza az would be everywhere! ;)
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Fragmentation of CSFR - Beta

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:31 pm

          Beta - Quenching

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - another hosting site, 25/02, pag

Postby Oneyed on Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:49 am

Gilligan wrote:Oneyed, I I appreciate the credit for some XML assist, but honestly it isn't "my name on the map" worthy. All I did was really check it, cairns did all the rest. If the XML checker got his name on every map he checked, forza az would be everywhere! ;)


if you realy do not want to have your name on map let me know and I will delete you.

thanks to everybody who helps to bring this map to Beta :D

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - another hosting site, 25/02, pag

Postby Gilligan on Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:41 pm

Oneyed wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Oneyed, I I appreciate the credit for some XML assist, but honestly it isn't "my name on the map" worthy. All I did was really check it, cairns did all the rest. If the XML checker got his name on every map he checked, forza az would be everywhere! ;)


if you realy do not want to have your name on map let me know and I will delete you.

thanks to everybody who helps to bring this map to Beta :D

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I don't think it needs to be there. :geek:
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - another hosting site, 25/02, pag

Postby Oneyed on Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:23 am

last update without Gilligan name.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby chapcrap on Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:31 am

I think there is a problem with the XML.

In this game: Game 12463747, BOB said that Swifte was going to get a +1 bonus for holding Bratislava and 4 towns. He did not hold Bratislava. He did hold 5 CR towns though. I took Kosice from him and his bonus went away. Oddly, this also coincided with him going from 12 territories to 11 territories. However, BOB said he held the Bratislava/town bonus.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Gilligan on Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:57 am

chapcrap wrote:I think there is a problem with the XML.

In this game: Game 12463747, BOB said that Swifte was going to get a +1 bonus for holding Bratislava and 4 towns. He did not hold Bratislava. He did hold 5 CR towns though. I took Kosice from him and his bonus went away. Oddly, this also coincided with him going from 12 territories to 11 territories. However, BOB said he held the Bratislava/town bonus.


I think it's more of a problem with BOB, and it not being able to handle bonus collections.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:08 pm

Gilligan wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I think there is a problem with the XML.

In this game: Game 12463747, BOB said that Swifte was going to get a +1 bonus for holding Bratislava and 4 towns. He did not hold Bratislava. He did hold 5 CR towns though. I took Kosice from him and his bonus went away. Oddly, this also coincided with him going from 12 territories to 11 territories. However, BOB said he held the Bratislava/town bonus.


I think it's more of a problem with BOB, and it not being able to handle bonus collections.


What gilligan said is 100% correct.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby chapcrap on Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:40 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:
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chapcrap wrote:I think there is a problem with the XML.

In this game: Game 12463747, BOB said that Swifte was going to get a +1 bonus for holding Bratislava and 4 towns. He did not hold Bratislava. He did hold 5 CR towns though. I took Kosice from him and his bonus went away. Oddly, this also coincided with him going from 12 territories to 11 territories. However, BOB said he held the Bratislava/town bonus.


I think it's more of a problem with BOB, and it not being able to handle bonus collections.


What gilligan said is 100% correct.

If that is the case then no worries. I didn't actually see an incorrect bonus collected.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Gilligan on Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:55 pm

chapcrap wrote:
thenobodies80 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I think there is a problem with the XML.

In this game: Game 12463747, BOB said that Swifte was going to get a +1 bonus for holding Bratislava and 4 towns. He did not hold Bratislava. He did hold 5 CR towns though. I took Kosice from him and his bonus went away. Oddly, this also coincided with him going from 12 territories to 11 territories. However, BOB said he held the Bratislava/town bonus.


I think it's more of a problem with BOB, and it not being able to handle bonus collections.


What gilligan said is 100% correct.

If that is the case then no worries. I didn't actually see an incorrect bonus collected.


Next time BOB shows that bonus, check the Troops Due column on the CC stats (barring he actually doesn't have the bonus) and see what it says there.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:08 pm

Yeah, I noticed that in my very first game.

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No wrongful bonuses were collected. Nobodies agreed it's a BOB problem, not a map problem.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Armandolas on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:37 pm

Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, I noticed that in my very first game.

Game 12456154

No wrongful bonuses were collected. Nobodies agreed it's a BOB problem, not a map problem.


Confirm..no bonus in fact, just BoB going nuts
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby celliottii on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:09 pm

chapcrap wrote:I think there is a problem with the XML.

In this game: Game 12463747, BOB said that Swifte was going to get a +1 bonus for holding Bratislava and 4 towns. He did not hold Bratislava. He did hold 5 CR towns though. I took Kosice from him and his bonus went away. Oddly, this also coincided with him going from 12 territories to 11 territories. However, BOB said he held the Bratislava/town bonus.


Had the same issue in Game 12528158, but mine was the Praha and 4 towns bonus. I use the Continents Overview option on BOB and it showed my opponent receiving this bonus, even the game log shows he didn't.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Oneyed on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:32 am

this is from game chat:

2013-03-20 07:07:25 - Oneyed: what do you think about to change capitals to n3 or to change town bonus to +1 for every 3?
2013-03-21 04:00:47 - Gilligan: an extra town bonus might help.

there was discusion about extra town bonus, but in 1v1 or 3, 4 players game will be possible that any of players will start with number of towns which gives him bonus.

what about to change:
capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.
and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:03 am

Oneyed wrote:capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.

Cannot see a problem with this as in large games that I looked in, they are not taken very often. A lowering of the neutral might get them into play more often.
Oneyed wrote:and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

This is frowned upon. A bonus drop for small games will happen. Need to run the percentages but I can guarantee it will be higher than allowed.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Oneyed on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:45 am

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Oneyed wrote:capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.

Cannot see a problem with this as in large games that I looked in, they are not taken very often. A lowering of the neutral might get them into play more often.
Oneyed wrote:and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

This is frowned upon. A bonus drop for small games will happen. Need to run the percentages but I can guarantee it will be higher than allowed.


this bonus is combination of holding capital and 4 towns. and because capitals allways start as neutral nobody can hold bonus even he starts with 4/3 towns.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby chapcrap on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:53 am

I agree with the suggestions Oneyed. No bonus would be dropped and it would open up the game a little bit more.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Oneyed on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:03 am

chapcrap wrote:I agree with the suggestions Oneyed. No bonus would be dropped and it would open up the game a little bit more.


so what to do?
1, change capitals to n3 and town bonus +1 for every 3 towns with capital? or
2, leave capitals n4 and town bonus +1 for every 3 towns with capital? or
3, change capitals to n3 and town bonus leave +1 for every 4 with capital?

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:54 pm

Just lower the neutral to a 3. Brings them into play.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby chapcrap on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:48 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Just lower the neutral to a 3. Brings them into play.

I think that's a good start. Do that and see how the gameplay works out from there. Maybe change more later.

I'll say that I'm in a doubles game where the neutrals were in play with them being 4.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:21 am

could we try to change the n4 of capitals to n3?
I think this could helps to integrate them more to game.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby iancanton on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:28 pm

i also support reducing each capital's starting neutrals to n3 and, if this doesn't have the desired effect, to n2 later.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:10 am

thanks ian :)

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