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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Oneyed on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:32 am

this is from game chat:

2013-03-20 07:07:25 - Oneyed: what do you think about to change capitals to n3 or to change town bonus to +1 for every 3?
2013-03-21 04:00:47 - Gilligan: an extra town bonus might help.

there was discusion about extra town bonus, but in 1v1 or 3, 4 players game will be possible that any of players will start with number of towns which gives him bonus.

what about to change:
capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.
and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:03 am

Oneyed wrote:capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.

Cannot see a problem with this as in large games that I looked in, they are not taken very often. A lowering of the neutral might get them into play more often.
Oneyed wrote:and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

This is frowned upon. A bonus drop for small games will happen. Need to run the percentages but I can guarantee it will be higher than allowed.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Oneyed on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:45 am

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Oneyed wrote:capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.

Cannot see a problem with this as in large games that I looked in, they are not taken very often. A lowering of the neutral might get them into play more often.
Oneyed wrote:and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

This is frowned upon. A bonus drop for small games will happen. Need to run the percentages but I can guarantee it will be higher than allowed.


this bonus is combination of holding capital and 4 towns. and because capitals allways start as neutral nobody can hold bonus even he starts with 4/3 towns.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby chapcrap on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:53 am

I agree with the suggestions Oneyed. No bonus would be dropped and it would open up the game a little bit more.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby Oneyed on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:03 am

chapcrap wrote:I agree with the suggestions Oneyed. No bonus would be dropped and it would open up the game a little bit more.


so what to do?
1, change capitals to n3 and town bonus +1 for every 3 towns with capital? or
2, leave capitals n4 and town bonus +1 for every 3 towns with capital? or
3, change capitals to n3 and town bonus leave +1 for every 4 with capital?

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:54 pm

Just lower the neutral to a 3. Brings them into play.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

Postby chapcrap on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:48 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Just lower the neutral to a 3. Brings them into play.

I think that's a good start. Do that and see how the gameplay works out from there. Maybe change more later.

I'll say that I'm in a doubles game where the neutrals were in play with them being 4.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:21 am

could we try to change the n4 of capitals to n3?
I think this could helps to integrate them more to game.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby iancanton on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:28 pm

i also support reducing each capital's starting neutrals to n3 and, if this doesn't have the desired effect, to n2 later.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:10 am

thanks ian :)

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Jippd on Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:28 am

I am for changing it and trying it out. Do we need multiple input in order to do it? If anyone wants to play a 1 v 1 on this map send me an invite and we'll give it a go.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby iancanton on Sat May 04, 2013 7:45 am

oneyed, we can change the capitals to start at n3 after u post the new xml to the xml checks thread.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=163962

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Gilligan on Sat May 04, 2013 7:57 am

iancanton wrote:oneyed, we can change the capitals to start at n3 after u post the new xml to the xml checks thread.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=163962

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You don't have to post it there, I check this forum regularly. :) Plus, it's such a small update.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Mon May 06, 2013 12:25 am

I tried to look/download Giligans xml but I got this notice:
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You don't have permission to access /files/2008/11/14/2187148/Frag.xml on this server."

where can I find current xml and do these small updates?

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby isaiah40 on Mon May 06, 2013 12:54 am

Oneyed wrote:I tried to look/download Giligans xml but I got this notice:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /files/2008/11/14/2187148/Frag.xml on this server."

where can I find current xml and do these small updates?

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You can either keep trying as it is a Fileden (the web server Gilligan uses) problem. The best bet is for everyone to attach the XML to the thread when you post the update.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Gilligan on Mon May 06, 2013 7:55 am

Oneyed wrote:I tried to look/download Giligans xml but I got this notice:
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You don't have permission to access /files/2008/11/14/2187148/Frag.xml on this server."

where can I find current xml and do these small updates?

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Mon May 06, 2013 8:59 am

thanks guys.
and how can I upload changed xml (I edited it in Notapad)?

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btw, here is edited xml in Notapad:
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Gilligan on Mon May 06, 2013 7:17 pm

Oneyed wrote:thanks guys.
and how can I upload changed xml (I edited it in Notapad)?

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btw, here is edited xml in Notapad:
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after you click "post a reply", underneath the "submit" area it says "upload attachment". use that.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Tue May 07, 2013 12:11 am

here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby isaiah40 on Tue May 07, 2013 12:25 am

Oneyed wrote:here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

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You need to save it as .xml not .txt

If you can't save it as .xml, you can download the Notepad++ which is free and you will be able to save it as .xml
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Tue May 07, 2013 2:29 am

isaiah40 wrote:
Oneyed wrote:here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

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You need to save it as .xml not .txt

If you can't save it as .xml, you can download the Notepad++ which is free and you will be able to save it as .xml


thank you. here it is:

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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue May 07, 2013 4:32 am

I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue May 07, 2013 12:46 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.


I think it's always the same BOB issue we already reported to the Tech guys. Look here: viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049&start=240#p4090687
Maybe ender516 is the right guy to contact about it. ;)
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue May 07, 2013 1:10 pm

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nolefan5311 wrote:I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.


I think it's always the same BOB issue we already reported to the Tech guys. Look here: viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049&start=240#p4090687
Maybe ender516 is the right guy to contact about it. ;)
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Ah, you're right. I never actually pulled the bonus, it was just highlighted. Thanks!
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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

Postby Oneyed on Sat May 11, 2013 11:03 am

here is updated xml

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