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Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:32 am
by Oneyed
this is from game chat:

2013-03-20 07:07:25 - Oneyed: what do you think about to change capitals to n3 or to change town bonus to +1 for every 3?
2013-03-21 04:00:47 - Gilligan: an extra town bonus might help.

there was discusion about extra town bonus, but in 1v1 or 3, 4 players game will be possible that any of players will start with number of towns which gives him bonus.

what about to change:
capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.
and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:03 am
by koontz1973
Oneyed wrote:capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.

Cannot see a problem with this as in large games that I looked in, they are not taken very often. A lowering of the neutral might get them into play more often.
Oneyed wrote:and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

This is frowned upon. A bonus drop for small games will happen. Need to run the percentages but I can guarantee it will be higher than allowed.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:45 am
by Oneyed
koontz1973 wrote:
Oneyed wrote:capitals (Praha, Bratislava) will start as n3 instead of n4.

Cannot see a problem with this as in large games that I looked in, they are not taken very often. A lowering of the neutral might get them into play more often.
Oneyed wrote:and +1 for every 3 towns (in CR/SR) instead +1 for every 4 towns.

This is frowned upon. A bonus drop for small games will happen. Need to run the percentages but I can guarantee it will be higher than allowed.


this bonus is combination of holding capital and 4 towns. and because capitals allways start as neutral nobody can hold bonus even he starts with 4/3 towns.

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:53 am
by chapcrap
I agree with the suggestions Oneyed. No bonus would be dropped and it would open up the game a little bit more.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:03 am
by Oneyed
chapcrap wrote:I agree with the suggestions Oneyed. No bonus would be dropped and it would open up the game a little bit more.


so what to do?
1, change capitals to n3 and town bonus +1 for every 3 towns with capital? or
2, leave capitals n4 and town bonus +1 for every 3 towns with capital? or
3, change capitals to n3 and town bonus leave +1 for every 4 with capital?

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:54 pm
by koontz1973
Just lower the neutral to a 3. Brings them into play.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - last update, 08/03, page 38

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:48 pm
by chapcrap
koontz1973 wrote:Just lower the neutral to a 3. Brings them into play.

I think that's a good start. Do that and see how the gameplay works out from there. Maybe change more later.

I'll say that I'm in a doubles game where the neutrals were in play with them being 4.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:21 am
by Oneyed
could we try to change the n4 of capitals to n3?
I think this could helps to integrate them more to game.

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:28 pm
by iancanton
i also support reducing each capital's starting neutrals to n3 and, if this doesn't have the desired effect, to n2 later.

ian. :)

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:10 am
by Oneyed
thanks ian :)

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:28 am
by Jippd
I am for changing it and trying it out. Do we need multiple input in order to do it? If anyone wants to play a 1 v 1 on this map send me an invite and we'll give it a go.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:45 am
by iancanton
oneyed, we can change the capitals to start at n3 after u post the new xml to the xml checks thread.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=163962

ian. :)

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:57 am
by Gilligan
iancanton wrote:oneyed, we can change the capitals to start at n3 after u post the new xml to the xml checks thread.

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=163962

ian. :)


You don't have to post it there, I check this forum regularly. :) Plus, it's such a small update.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:25 am
by Oneyed
I tried to look/download Giligans xml but I got this notice:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /files/2008/11/14/2187148/Frag.xml on this server."

where can I find current xml and do these small updates?

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:54 am
by isaiah40
Oneyed wrote:I tried to look/download Giligans xml but I got this notice:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /files/2008/11/14/2187148/Frag.xml on this server."

where can I find current xml and do these small updates?

Oneyed

You can either keep trying as it is a Fileden (the web server Gilligan uses) problem. The best bet is for everyone to attach the XML to the thread when you post the update.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:55 am
by Gilligan
Oneyed wrote:I tried to look/download Giligans xml but I got this notice:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /files/2008/11/14/2187148/Frag.xml on this server."

where can I find current xml and do these small updates?

Oneyed


http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:59 am
by Oneyed
thanks guys.
and how can I upload changed xml (I edited it in Notapad)?

Oneyed

btw, here is edited xml in Notapad:
show

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:17 pm
by Gilligan
Oneyed wrote:thanks guys.
and how can I upload changed xml (I edited it in Notapad)?

Oneyed

btw, here is edited xml in Notapad:
show


after you click "post a reply", underneath the "submit" area it says "upload attachment". use that.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:11 am
by Oneyed
here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:25 am
by isaiah40
Oneyed wrote:here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

Oneyed

You need to save it as .xml not .txt

If you can't save it as .xml, you can download the Notepad++ which is free and you will be able to save it as .xml

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:29 am
by Oneyed
isaiah40 wrote:
Oneyed wrote:here it is. but it is still in Notepad only.

Oneyed

You need to save it as .xml not .txt

If you can't save it as .xml, you can download the Notepad++ which is free and you will be able to save it as .xml


thank you. here it is:

Oneyed

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:32 am
by nolefan5311
I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:46 pm
by thenobodies80
nolefan5311 wrote:I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.


I think it's always the same BOB issue we already reported to the Tech guys. Look here: viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049&start=240#p4090687
Maybe ender516 is the right guy to contact about it. ;)
Nobodies

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:10 pm
by nolefan5311
thenobodies80 wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:I'm getting a Praha and 4 town bonus in a game, and I don't hold Praha. Perhaps this is a glitch in the game engine? The XML file in play looks ok.


I think it's always the same BOB issue we already reported to the Tech guys. Look here: viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049&start=240#p4090687
Maybe ender516 is the right guy to contact about it. ;)
Nobodies


Ah, you're right. I never actually pulled the bonus, it was just highlighted. Thanks!

Re: Fragmentation of CSFR - change ot the neutrals? pg 39

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 11:03 am
by Oneyed
here is updated xml

Oneyed