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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby TheRealJb on Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:39 am

I like this map. I've played it several times now. I agree that a darker boarder around each of the 2 countries will make it easier to see and keep the players from having to reference the legends. I strongly agree that adding a +1 auto deploy on the capitals would be the right change for the map with no other bonuses associated with the captials.
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby John DM on Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:07 pm

I didn't get the 4 towns CR +1 - Stat said I should, but not Overview
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Gilligan on Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:11 pm

John DM wrote:I didn't get the 4 towns CR +1 - Stat said I should, but not Overview


there are many features in this XML that the panels do not understand. you may very well get it on the start of your turn even if the panels say you won't.
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Gamefreakguy on Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:12 pm

Hey, I'm really enjoying this map. I like the different attacking properties of each territory within a kraj. 2 things I would suggest though: First, a more distinctive line between the CR and SR. Second, in the upper-right detail pane, shouldn't the first "kraje" say "kraj"? It seems like a typo to me.
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Gilligan on Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:13 pm

Gamefreakguy wrote:Hey, I'm really enjoying this map. I like the different attacking properties of each territory within a kraj. 2 things I would suggest though: First, a more distinctive line between the CR and SR. Second, in the upper-right detail pane, shouldn't the first "kraje" say "kraj"? It seems like a typo to me.


seems like "kraje" is plural for "kraj"
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:16 am

Gilligan wrote:
Gamefreakguy wrote:Hey, I'm really enjoying this map. I like the different attacking properties of each territory within a kraj. 2 things I would suggest though: First, a more distinctive line between the CR and SR. Second, in the upper-right detail pane, shouldn't the first "kraje" say "kraj"? It seems like a typo to me.


seems like "kraje" is plural for "kraj"

That is correct.
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby TheCrown on Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:33 am

2014-03-10 16:47:46 - TheCrown: Yeah, I like this map because the way you get bonuses is different on either half
2014-03-10 16:48:16 - TheCrown: what I don't like is that I can't figure out what the - troops penalty is all about
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Jippd on Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:44 pm

What part confuses you about the - bonus? If you hold Praja you get -1 deploy for every Kraj you hold in the SR. If you hold Bratislava you get -2 for every two kraje (2 kraj's) you hold in the CR.

Are you confused by what a kraj is or by what the capitals are or by what the CR/SR stand for?
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Oneyed on Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:33 pm

excuse my long absention here.
I had some RL troubles and so on...

this month I will come back with necessary changes on this map.

thank to everybody for interest, for ideas. and that you like this map :)

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Oneyed on Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:23 am

TheCrown wrote: 2014-03-10 16:48:16 - TheCrown: what I don't like is that I can't figure out what the - troops penalty is all about


what exactly you can not figure out? why there is penalty or how penalty works?

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby general cod on Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:05 pm

14141537. Win for cod :)
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:21 pm

Well this map is good in layout, however, the directions to what attacks what can be bit confusing. Especially in a freesyle game, lol!
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Jippd on Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:23 pm

Perhaps utilizing some wording from the wales map would be helpful as attack patterns are somewhat similar?

"Towns and capitals can only attack other towns, land or capitals in the same colored area.

Lands can attack bordering Lands and any towns or capitals in the same colored area.

Railroads connect towns and capitals."
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Oneyed on Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:59 am

sounds good Jippd.
will see how much space I will have in legends.

thanks.

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby iancanton on Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:07 am

oneyed, if u do not have the time to do any graphics changes just now, then can i suggest that u simply amend the xml so that praha and bratislava both start with n2 neutrals (or, alternatively, n2 for praha and n1 for bratislava), then post it in the xml checks thread? this ought to take only a few minutes.

after u are able to spend more time on the map, u can add the auto-deploy and improved explanation of attacks.

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Jippd on Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:21 am

Why would you want n1 on bratislava? especially if he plans to make the capitals into auto deploys that would no be a good balance i don't think.
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Oneyed on Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:07 am

iancanton wrote:oneyed, if u do not have the time to do any graphics changes just now, then can i suggest that u simply amend the xml so that praha and bratislava both start with n2 neutrals (or, alternatively, n2 for praha and n1 for bratislava), then post it in the xml checks thread? this ought to take only a few minutes.

after u are able to spend more time on the map, u can add the auto-deploy and improved explanation of attacks.

ian. :)


I can do all changes (graphics, xml) at onece. the problem is not free time, but I changed my hard disc and I lost much things.
please be patient, the old broken hard disc has my friend who will save some data.

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby iancanton on Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:07 am

Jippd wrote:Why would you want n1 on bratislava? especially if he plans to make the capitals into auto deploys that would no be a good balance i don't think.

correct! bratislava remains neutral in most games, so i suggested n1 without auto-deploy as a quick way to bring bratislava into play without changing the graphics of the map. however, oneyed says he'll be able to change both the xml and graphics soon, after he recovers his files.

ian. :)
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:34 am

iancanton wrote:
Jippd wrote:Why would you want n1 on bratislava? especially if he plans to make the capitals into auto deploys that would no be a good balance i don't think.

correct! bratislava remains neutral in most games, so i suggested n1 without auto-deploy as a quick way to bring bratislava into play without changing the graphics of the map. however, oneyed says he'll be able to change both the xml and graphics soon, after he recovers his files.

ian. :)

Ian, if you have time, you might want to check the data from my Presov tournament:
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One of my goals in that tournament was to incentivize capturing the capitals. You might want to see what percentage of those who capture and early capital go on to win the game. I don't have time to do any number-crunching this week, but if somebody else could, that would be great.

My theory is that adding an autodeploy to the capitals is better than reducing the starting neutrals. However, it would be good if someone would check the data. I'll get to it when I can, but if you guys are this close to making an irrevocable decision then you should have a look.
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Jippd on Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:37 am

I would also prefer autodeploys for capitals instead of reducing the neutral count on capitals
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Oneyed on Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:59 pm

now capitals strat as n2.
I think that after change to +1 auto for capitals they could start n3.

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Jippd on Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:28 pm

Are you going to make the auto deploy added to capitals soon or are you trying the capitals out at n2 first? What is your plan?
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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Oneyed on Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:04 pm

Jippd wrote:Are you going to make the auto deploy added to capitals soon or are you trying the capitals out at n2 first? What is your plan?


this weekend I will have some data. so during next week I will change wording about attacks and about bonuses. and then I will change xml.

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby iancanton on Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:33 pm

Oneyed wrote:now capitals strat as n2.

at the moment, both capitals start with n3 neutrals.

Oneyed wrote:I think that after change to +1 auto for capitals they could start n3.

on cairnswk's cricket map, the bowler +2 auto-deploy used to be ignored in most games because it started with n3 neutrals. after cairnswk changed the bowler to start as n1, players stopped complaining about that map. i recommend that both capitals start with n2 neutrals.

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Re: Czecho Slovak Fragmentation - bonus change?

Postby Yynatago on Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:48 am

Nice Map. Played a Poly game on it for the first time.

I didn't quite get the region bonuses. In particular, it is either not clear or not obvious which Kraj are Czech and which Kraj are Slovak.

I love the different ways off attacking neighbouring Kraj.
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