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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [26.11.12] V17-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:27 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Done.
Enjoys cairns.

Thanks koontz.

Version 17....couple of changes
* some borders have moved slightly to get the names in properly...
* some aspects of the legend have improved....
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [26.11.12] V17-P11 GFX

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:08 am

Yakaminka colour is heading into Akademicheskiy. Bottom left pic in frame- can you tone down the blue sky, it looks like it is a wonderful day but out of place.
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [26.11.12] V18-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:28 am

koontz1973 wrote:Yakaminka colour is heading into Akademicheskiy. Bottom left pic in frame- can you tone down the blue sky, it looks like it is a wonderful day but out of place.

Yakaminka fixed...
Fix sky next version...
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:53 pm

Version 19
* tidied up the corner images with gems
* added 2 new icons
* changed top icon background to same as others
* added 4 studs to plate at bottom
* added bevels and outer edges to legend texts

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby Nola_Lifer on Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:05 pm

How does it look with a darker background instead of white?
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:11 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:How does it look with a darker background instead of white?

i don't know...haven't tried...don't really want to go there either...i wanted the section in-between the frameowrk to be transparent on the site background :)
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:39 pm

cairns, I only have one thing that I might change and this would be completely up to you as it really is aesthetics would be the gold circle in the middle. Could you make it the same thickness as the lettering in the title?
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.8.12] V15-P9 GFX

Postby iancanton on Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:18 pm

iancanton wrote:on the yellow pages map to which u link, yellow district 10 is nagornyy, which is long and narrow from north to south.

the correct spelling is nagornyy, not nagomyy.

iancanton wrote:yakaminka ought to be yakimanka.

http://evans.com.ru/yakimanka/

in the legend, instead of referring to outer region bonuses, i suggest outer district bonuses or outer suburb bonuses. this is not only more appropriate for a city map, but avoids confusion with other uses of the word region in cc. similarly, inner region pair can be replaced by inner suburb pair.

ian. :)
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.8.12] V15-P9 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:01 am

iancanton wrote:
iancanton wrote:on the yellow pages map to which u link, yellow district 10 is nagornyy, which is long and narrow from north to south.

the correct spelling is nagornyy, not nagomyy.

iancanton wrote:yakaminka ought to be yakimanka.

http://evans.com.ru/yakimanka/

Both of those now fixed.

in the legend, instead of referring to outer region bonuses, i suggest outer district bonuses or outer suburb bonuses. this is not only more appropriate for a city map, but avoids confusion with other uses of the word region in cc. similarly, inner region pair can be replaced by inner suburb pair.
ian. :)

changed to "outer district bonuses" and "inner suburbs pair"

changed in the above version 19.
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:09 am

koontz1973 wrote:cairns, I only have one thing that I might change and this would be completely up to you as it really is aesthetics would be the gold circle in the middle. Could you make it the same thickness as the lettering in the title?

What is your purpose with this please....there is a lot of work in doing this, as i will have to re-do the whole gold lot
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:13 am

cairnswk wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:cairns, I only have one thing that I might change and this would be completely up to you as it really is aesthetics would be the gold circle in the middle. Could you make it the same thickness as the lettering in the title?

What is your purpose with this please....there is a lot of work in doing this, as i will have to re-do the whole gold lot

With it being that thick, the connections from inner to outer suburbs are very small at Tverskoe and Krasnoselskoe so these might get missed. Making those two gaps larger alone would be nice. As for the thickness itself, the shiny gold in the middle of the matt suburbs is a little bright. Toning it down would not be the best idea as gold should be shiny but unlike the title, it detracts from the map itself, hence, reducing of the thickness.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby ManBungalow on Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:09 am

Are you going to put the names of the bonuses anywhere?

It's not a big issue, but if I were in a team game I might say "go for that green bonus over there, you know the one I mean".
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:24 am

ManBungalow wrote:Are you going to put the names of the bonuses anywhere?

It's not a big issue, but if I were in a team game I might say "go for that green bonus over there, you know the one I mean".

Mmmm, guess that might be an idea...i'll have to see what i can do. thanks MB
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby Seamus76 on Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:34 am

Great looking map as always cairns, I really like the mosaic, which is pretty different but what I would expect from you. I have to agree with Koontz though, the inner gold ring is too thick, and a little distracting. Also, no offense, but with it being so big it looks a little cheesy and fake. Making it thinner will give you a little more room for the inner ring names, and god knows what magic you can do with an extra pixel or two. I also like the stars indicating the bonuses, and don't think naming them does much but take up more space. Team games can always use tert names as indicators, etc., but I'm sure you're creative juices are flowing already.

Keep up the great work.
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:18 am

cairns, what where you going to call the bonuses anyway? I have to agree with Seamus, using the territ names instead of bonus names seems to be the norm for me in team games anyway.
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:41 am

koontz1973 wrote:cairns, what where you going to call the bonuses anyway? I have to agree with Seamus, using the territ names instead of bonus names seems to be the norm for me in team games anyway.

well some people also like or expect to see some continent names on maps also. you have it in Madrid, Seamus has it in "Ancient Israel" etc.etc.
so as i said i will think on what to do. ;)
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:50 am

cairnswk wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:cairns, what where you going to call the bonuses anyway? I have to agree with Seamus, using the territ names instead of bonus names seems to be the norm for me in team games anyway.

well some people also like or expect to see some continent names on maps also. you have it in Madrid, Seamus has it in "Ancient Israel" etc.etc.
so as i said i will think on what to do. ;)

The reason why I asked what you where going to call them is if you had the territ name for the bonus name as well, you could do the name on the map slightly different. Just an idea.
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:51 am

koontz1973 wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:cairns, what where you going to call the bonuses anyway? I have to agree with Seamus, using the territ names instead of bonus names seems to be the norm for me in team games anyway.

well some people also like or expect to see some continent names on maps also. you have it in Madrid, Seamus has it in "Ancient Israel" etc.etc.
so as i said i will think on what to do. ;)

The reason why I asked what you where going to call them is if you had the territ name for the bonus name as well, you could do the name on the map slightly different. Just an idea.

Yes i had thought of that, but i don't know about that since it doesn't exactly fit what Moscow is about...let me think on it more.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [1.12.12] V20-P13 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:14 am

Version 20 i've added the names of the districts.

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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [27.11.12] V19-P11 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:24 am

Seamus76 wrote:... I also like the stars indicating the bonuses, and don't think naming them does much but take up more space. Team games can always use tert names as indicators, etc., but I'm sure you're creative juices are flowing already.
Keep up the great work.

thanks Seamus76...do these bonus names work for you?
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Re: Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [2.11.12] V21-P13 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:24 pm

koontz1973 wrote:cairns, I only have one thing that I might change and this would be completely up to you as it really is aesthetics would be the gold circle in the middle. Could you make it the same thickness as the lettering in the title?

Seamus76 wrote:Great looking map as always cairns, I really like the mosaic, which is pretty different but what I would expect from you. I have to agree with Koontz though, the inner gold ring is too thick, and a little distracting. Also, no offense, but with it being so big it looks a little cheesy and fake. Making it thinner will give you a little more room for the inner ring names, and god knows what magic you can do with an extra pixel or two...


Addressing the issues above re the gold ring thickness and colour....i have re-worked the title and ring so that they are all similar and similar thickness. Also added a small drop shadow to the items in the legend, but not the text...i think it is OK as is.

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [2.12.12] V21-P13 GFX

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:29 pm

The title is perfect, and the ring looks much better.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [2.12.12] V21-P13 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:47 pm

isaiah40 wrote:The title is perfect, and the ring looks much better.

thanks isaiah40....is there anything else you can see needs attention?
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [2.12.12] V21-P13 GFX

Postby iancanton on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:16 pm

must u have the dots in the abbreviations for the inner suburbs? they make the centre of the map a bit untidy.

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [2.12.12] V21-P13 GFX

Postby cairnswk on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:24 pm

iancanton wrote:must u have the dots in the abbreviations for the inner suburbs? they make the centre of the map a bit untidy.

ian. :)

I don't think it is untidy. and since most often that is the way abbreviations are noted...i think they're OK.
otherwise do you have an alternative suggestion ?
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