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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.12.12] V27-P18 Gold Ring

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:38 am

Sorry cairns, but this is the first chance I have had to come and really look at the map since you did you the rings again. You are right, I did say the title was nice, and I still think it is nice. The rings are also nice, so is the frame. I have no problem with any of these elements of the map individually, it is just when all three come together, he lighting looks off.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.12.12] V27-P18 Gold Ring

Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:31 am

koontz1973 wrote:Sorry cairns, but this is the first chance I have had to come and really look at the map since you did you the rings again. You are right, I did say the title was nice, and I still think it is nice. The rings are also nice, so is the frame. I have no problem with any of these elements of the map individually, it is just when all three come together, he lighting looks off.

koontz...
the frame is a bevel at 360 degrees...if i change it to 270 degrees the framework looses its 3D dimension on the sides to a very weak 3D dimension at the bottom and top edge only...very poor result. Also i cannot apply the same gold colouration to the frame and then apply the bevel since the bevel does not take on the gold colouring as in the rings.

the ring and image frames have a gold 2 colour 3 range spread plus a slight contour applied to the outer edge. it is too small to have any bevel dimension to it.

the title is created in another process in Corel Paint via a bit map, and yes it is lit from the bottom where it achieves the best effect.

I'm sorry they don't look the same. :)
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.12.12] V27-P16 Gold Ring

Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:20 pm

Refresh your screen, and U will see a very slight inner shadow around the oval of the map to create a slight raised centre image. :)

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.12.12] V27-P18 Gold Ring

Postby Oneyed on Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:45 pm

not arguing for arguing, but what is the small "thing" under Nagornyy in legen? I mean "thing" dirrect under "g". I can not see something similar anywhere.
I like this new version. maybe the impassable gold circle could has a little less light?

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.12.12] V27-P18 Gold Ring

Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:38 pm

Oneyed wrote:not arguing for arguing, but what is the small "thing" under Nagornyy in legen? I mean "thing" dirrect under "g". I can not see something similar anywhere.
I like this new version. maybe the impassable gold circle could has a little less light?

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Refresh above, the thing was a hang-over from the bevel process...now gone...but i like the gold as it highlights the impassables.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.12.12] V27-P18 Gold Ring

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:19 pm

I don't get the lighting complaint? I feel like even if there were different angles of light it would fall into the whole "jewel" theme anyways. I have to say I just don't see a problem and I am one picky SOB. :P
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [19.12.12] V27-P18 Gold Ring

Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:34 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:I don't get the lighting complaint? I feel like even if there were different angles of light it would fall into the whole "jewel" theme anyways. I have to say I just don't see a problem and I am one picky SOB. :P

well FT...you know, some people just can't help themselves :lol: :lol:
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [22.12.12] V27-P18 L & S

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:16 am

Large and Small uploaded as above V27.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [22.12.12] V27-P18 L & S

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:40 pm

Goodness. PS is bloody nightmare to use. :evil: :roll: :roll:
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [24.12.12] V28-P19 L & S

Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:30 pm

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [24.12.12] V28-P19 L & S

Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:40 am

Version 28 Small and Large.

1. All gold images now have the same lighting...completely re-worked in illustrator and imported as .pngs to CD
2. title re-worked
3. image holders re-worked
4. impassables re-worked
5. the back frame is not going to be done in the same gold effect as the other gold title and image holders, as it would be too much for the eye and over-ride the map.
6. i hope this now satisfies for stamping. :)

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [24.12.12] V28-P19 L/S/XML

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:10 am

Merry Christmas!!
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [24.12.12] V28-P19 L/S/XML

Postby cairnswk on Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:40 am

isaiah40 wrote:Merry Christmas!!
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Thank-you isaiah 40, and a Merry Xmas to you also, :)
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [24.12.12] V28-P19 L/S/XML

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:45 am

Well done cairns. Another one close to the gaming stage.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [24.12.12] V28-P19 L/S/XML

Postby cairnswk on Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:48 am

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P19 L/S/XML

Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:05 am

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P19 L/S/XML

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:24 am

cairnswk wrote:Version 29
Sparkles on the diamonds


Not liking them. Try to lower the opacity on them. The sparkles are only light and should be able to see through them.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P19 L/S/XML

Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:37 am

koontz1973 wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Version 29
Sparkles on the diamonds


Not liking them. Try to lower the opacity on them. The sparkles are only light and should be able to see through them.

Opacity lowered to 80% with ADD transaparency operation...any lower than that and they become invisible.
For effect, i think being able to see through them is not important, what is important is the effect given :) slight as it is!
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P20 Bling!

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:16 am

I love the sparkles! I saw koontz post and was bummed because I thought they were going to go away but then noticed they had already been changed. Now I just wonder if I would have liked them when they were sparklier. I guess I will never know. :D
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P20 Bling!

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:29 am

No worries FT, you got to see the perfect ones. Well done cairns.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P20 Bling!

Postby iancanton on Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:15 pm

i'm going to pull u up on spelling again! sevemoe tushino ought to be severnoe tushino. i suspect that meshchanskoye is actually meshchanskoe if u use the same transliteration method as for the other names that have the -skoe ending. tverskoe is tverskoy, segovoy is almost certainly begovoy, while presnensoe is probably presnenskiy.

the text for mostilmovskiy isn't lined up properly on the small map, so that the second mo is slightly higher than the v that follows it.

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iancanton wrote:must u have the dots in the abbreviations for the inner suburbs? they make the centre of the map a bit untidy.

ian. :)

I don't think it is untidy. and since most often that is the way abbreviations are noted...i think they're OK.
otherwise do you have an alternative suggestion ?

the numerous abbreviation dots remain a minor irritant, though i can live with them. the only suggestion i have is to remove the dots, in the fashion of Qld for queensland, NSW for new south wales and UK for united kingdom.

the sparkle effect on the diamonds is a nice touch.

ian. :)
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P20 Bling!

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:05 pm

Oh my god it's the spelling nazi again :lol:
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P20 Bling!

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:12 pm

iancanton wrote:i'm going to pull u up on spelling again!

Shame i can't pull you up for not having picked these up long ago...and why they're not all given at once rather than in dribs and drabs. :idea: for you eh?!

Many of these as you know are taken from another reference map.
So there is always going to be discrepancy on what you want and what mapmakers put on their maps when referred to from other people's work.

sevemoe tushino ought to be severnoe tushino.
This one is a reading error from the other map - the close font letters are repsonsible.
Fixed.



tverskoe is tverskoy,

Changed.
segovoy is almost certainly begovoy,

Fixed.

while presnensoe is probably presnenskiy.
yes if you look at google...but who says google is correct :?:
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the text for mostilmovskiy isn't lined up properly on the small map, so that the second mo is slightly higher than the v that follows it.

fixed.


i suspect that meshchanskoye is actually meshchanskoe if u use the same transliteration method as for the other names that have the -skoe ending.

No, Meschanskiye is correct...according to google

you forgot to look at Basmannoe...should be Basmannyy according to google
and Krasnoselskoe should be Krasnosel'skaya according to google.
and Bogorodskoe should be Bogorodskoye according to google.
and Taganskoe should be Taganskiy according to google.
and Sokolniki should be Sokol'niki

Quick. let's all go over to google maps to make sure out maps are all correct from now on ;)

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iancanton wrote:must u have the dots in the abbreviations for the inner suburbs? they make the centre of the map a bit untidy.
ian. :)

I don't think it is untidy. and since most often that is the way abbreviations are noted...i think they're OK.
otherwise do you have an alternative suggestion ?

the numerous abbreviation dots remain a minor irritant, though i can live with them. the only suggestion i have is to remove the dots, in the fashion of Qld for queensland, NSW for new south wales and UK for united kingdom.

ian, let's not keep going round in circles with the dots. I want them there, you can live with that, so let's get over your minor irritation.
as for your references for qld nsw etc. they can also be used with dots....e.g n.s.w. and u.k.
I think you're being pendantic for pendantic sake. :roll:

the sparkle effect on the diamonds is a nice touch.
ian. :)

ah! wonderful you find some positive.
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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [30.12.12] V30-P20 XML

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:26 pm

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Re: CLASSIC CITIES: Moscow [28.12.12] V29-P20 Bling!

Postby Funkyterrance on Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:27 pm

koontz1973 wrote:No worries FT, you got to see the perfect ones. Well done cairns.


That's good enough for me. ;)
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