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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Donelladan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:52 am

So, for 1vs1, is it supposed to have 2 starting positions or only one?
I started a 1vs1 yesterday, we started with 2 starting positions.
I just played 1v1 few minutes ago and we had only one starting positions. ( and that sucks, especially because we were playing nuke and I got my only slave entrance nuked..........)


Btw, would it be possible to code, that nuke can NOT be a slave entrance? Because it kind of make it very lucky... think to a 8 player games with nuke :S
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Armandolas on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:00 am

I have a doubt, if i hold a trap do i get -1 troop in that territorie or do i have -1 in my slave entrance autodeploy?

When this prometeus thing is fixed(we just have seen an example where someone didnt hold prometheus and won a game by killing enemy), my currently game will be fixed too?or only when i start a new game?

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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Donelladan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:11 am

With a trap you have -1 to deploy.
So for example if you dont have any bonus, instead of receving 3 troops at the beginning of your turn, your receive 2 !
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Armandolas on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:21 am

donelladan wrote:With a trap you have -1 to deploy.
So for example if you dont have any bonus, instead of receving 3 troops at the beginning of your turn, your receive 2 !


what if i have 2 traps? 1 deploy only?or 3 traps...no deploys...is that it?...what if i have 4?..lololol
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Donelladan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:24 am

I didnt try with several traps on that map.
But on other map with negative drop ( king's court II) then you have 0 troop to deploy :)
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:56 am

donelladan wrote:So, for 1vs1, is it supposed to have 2 starting positions or only one?
I started a 1vs1 yesterday, we started with 2 starting positions.
I just played 1v1 few minutes ago and we had only one starting positions. ( and that sucks, especially because we were playing nuke and I got my only slave entrance nuked..........)


Btw, would it be possible to code, that nuke can NOT be a slave entrance? Because it kind of make it very lucky... think to a 8 player games with nuke :S


What game number?
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Donelladan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:07 am

Game 12548417
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Both 1vs1, both start with only one position per player.

And 1vs1 the game is really unbalanced I think.
I dunno if it will improve a lot with 2 starting positions. But I think the pegasus with only 1 neutral are a problem here.
It allows you to be very fast on your opponent. And with equal dice on both side it means the 2nd will never be able to hold a bonus, while the 1st will have it almost all the game.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:18 am

There were a lot of rapid-fire changes to the code to try and identify the problem for larger games. I believe the issue is now sorted.

Game 12546113 was started really early this morning and we were both distributed 2 starting positions, so it appears the issue is corrected.

Edited to add that it appears both of those games started after the one I referenced. I don't understand what's going on, lol. I will get with koontz and nobodies to see what the problem is.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Armandolas on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:25 am

Nole can u clarify this?

When this prometeus thing is fixed(we just have seen an example where someone didnt hold prometheus and won a game by killing enemy), my currently game will be fixed too?or only when i start a new game?

Thanks
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Gilligan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:31 am

Armandolas wrote:Nole can u clarify this?

When this prometeus thing is fixed(we just have seen an example where someone didnt hold prometheus and won a game by killing enemy), my currently game will be fixed too?or only when i start a new game?

Thanks


If the XML is updated mid-game, it will be active.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Armandolas on Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:38 am

Gilligan wrote:
Armandolas wrote:Nole can u clarify this?

When this prometeus thing is fixed(we just have seen an example where someone didnt hold prometheus and won a game by killing enemy), my currently game will be fixed too?or only when i start a new game?

Thanks


If the XML is updated mid-game, it will be active.


Thanks ;)
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby mint-murray on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:20 pm

Just to let you know - 1 v 1 is still only giving 1 initally slave deployment to start.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:29 pm

mint-murray wrote:Just to let you know - 1 v 1 is still only giving 1 initally slave deployment to start.

What game?
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby 40kguy on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:34 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
mint-murray wrote:Just to let you know - 1 v 1 is still only giving 1 initally slave deployment to start.

What game?

Game 12549656
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Leehar on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:36 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
mint-murray wrote:Just to let you know - 1 v 1 is still only giving 1 initally slave deployment to start.

What game?

Game 12549558
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:52 pm

Thanks. Will look into it.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:09 pm

I'm supposed to update the xml? If not, nolefan let me know when you're ready so i can send it. prometheus problem is a non problem, it won't happen again.
Use the file i posted, but double check it.
Please let me know what you will change exactly. :P

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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:48 pm

The only change I would make is listed below:

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<positions max="1">
   <position>
      <territory>A1</territory>
      <territory>J16</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>A16</territory>
      <territory>J1</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>N1</territory>
      <territory>E16</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>N16</territory>
      <territory>E1</territory>
   </position>
</positions>


And I would reinstitute the underlying neutrals for these positions.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Gilligan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:00 pm

conditional borders fixed, by your friendly neighborhood XML guru...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/14 ... yrinth.xml
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:11 pm

nole, do that but do not put in the neutrals.

Leave the max of 1 in though.

All neutrals again.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Gilligan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:15 pm

Whatever update happens can just be to the link I posted just two posts ago. It has removed the neutral start of E1, E16, J1, J16 and fixed the conditional borders. I did not touch anything except that, and got the file from CC's XML list.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:38 pm

Well, not sure what has happened with this map, but bugs have been cropping up all over the place. gilligan, you say your xml is correct? If so, nole can use that for the changes.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Gilligan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:42 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Well, not sure what has happened with this map, but bugs have been cropping up all over the place. gilligan, you say your xml is correct? If so, nole can use that for the changes.


Can you give me a list of what bugs you speak of? I will double check it.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:59 pm

You got them all gilligan. Just looked.
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Re: Labyrinth [21/2] Pg 1/24 BETA Ready

Postby Gilligan on Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:06 pm

I forgot to mention this before.
nolefan5311 wrote:The only change I would make is listed below:

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<positions max="1">
   <position>
      <territory>A1</territory>
      <territory>J16</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>A16</territory>
      <territory>J1</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>N1</territory>
      <territory>E16</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>N16</territory>
      <territory>E1</territory>
   </position>
</positions>


And I would reinstitute the underlying neutrals for these positions.


How is this going to work with 4+ players? It will give Player 1-Position 1, Player 2-Position 2, Player 3-Position 3, Player 4-Position 4, and then there are no positions left for players 5-8.
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