[Beta] - Krazy Kingdoms - Proposed Changes (7/3/14)

by **waauw** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:48 am

omg dude, your maps are amazing.
where do you get all this inspiration

by **koontz1973** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:03 am

dolomite, still having trouble reading the small font, small map. The size with the yellow glow is the smallest readable text. Everything else is completely unreadable.

by **dolomite13** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:24 pm

koontz1973 wrote:dolomite, still having trouble reading the small font, small map. The size with the yellow glow is the smallest readable text. Everything else is completely unreadable.

Wow its all completely readable to me.

I will see what can be done.

How about we look into allowing a larger "small" map so I can make the text more readable.

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by **waauw** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:42 pm

dolomite13 wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:dolomite, still having trouble reading the small font, small map. The size with the yellow glow is the smallest readable text. Everything else is completely unreadable.

Wow its all completely readable to me.

I will see what can be done.

How about we look into allowing a larger "small" map so I can make the text readable.

=D=

yellow text at the top: People can see that they only start with 1 kingdom and 1 corresponding territory as soon as they start the game. So why mention it in text? Isn't that just stating the obvious?
The only part that isn't redundant is that it's mentioning it's your unique feature. So why not just say "your feature on the righ is unique to you". Wouldn't that be shorter?

by **waauw** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:58 pm

explanation kingdoms: you can reduce the size of the explanation by saying "kingdom symbol *display example figure of a symbol*: attacks corresponding territory"
and also say "right: letter favoured territory"
That's all you need. Saying "kingdom forces are displayed on the left" is again just stating the obvious.

explanation auto, killer, reset: These explanations seem redundant too. People already know what you mean when you say "auto" or "reset". I also suggest you replace "killer" with "decay", so it needs no explanation and people will still know what you mean.

reduce the size of these things and I think you'll have enough space to enlarge the font size of the rest.

by **dolomite13** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:59 pm

waauw wrote:explanation kingdoms: you can reduce the size of the explanation by saying "kingdom symbol *display example figure of a symbol*: attacks corresponding territory"
and also say "right: letter favoured territory"
That's all you need. Saying "kingdom forces are displayed on the left" is again just stating the obvious.

explanation auto, killer, reset: These explanations seem redundant too. People already know what you mean when you say "auto" or "reset". I also suggest you replace "killer" with "decay", so it needs no explanation and people will still know what you mean.

reduce the size of these things and I think you'll have enough space to enlarge the font size of the rest.

Thanks a bunch...

I have been working on moving things around and was able to cut down the kingdom explanation part to mostly graphics and I was able to increase all of the fonts...

Need to go do house work and take care of a sick wife but should have a update shortly.

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by **dolomite13** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:07 pm

OK I think I'm going in the right direction now...

I will work on it more this evening...

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SMALL
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2305/kk020sm.png

LARGE
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9895/kk020lg.png

by **waauw** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:35 pm

looks so much better now

by **dolomite13** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:20 pm

I am not happy with how WIZARDS works currently...

I would like to change it to Resets 5 instead of Decay 1 ... but I need a clarification on Conditional Borders as a mechanic. Does the conditional border open immediately when the condition is met? if so it should be easy to make the change that way [favored] <==adjacent==> [favored] would be slowed down just a bit and we could change [maelstrom]+[favored]=+1 to [favored]=+1

This also gets rid of the "Decay" mechanic from the map... which BTW I am not a fan of ... I really want a decay to 0 instead of 1 to be implemented.

Thoughts?

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by **dolomite13** on Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:58 pm

Latest maps ...

SMALL
http://imageshack.us/a/img521/7830/kk021sm.png

LARGE
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/7380/kk021lg.png

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In case the idea for changing WIZARDS is approved...

SMALL
http://imageshack.us/a/img803/8560/kk022sm.png

LARGE
http://imageshack.us/a/img526/8639/kk022lg.png

by **koontz1973** on Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:28 pm

The first sets of maps when dealing with the wizards.

by **dolomite13** on Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:58 am

koontz1973 wrote:The first sets of maps when dealing with the wizards.

I missed

[favored] ==assaults==> [maelstrom]

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by **dolomite13** on Wed May 01, 2013 2:40 am

Latest (0.2.3)

Small
http://imageshack.us/a/img189/5594/kk023sm.png

Large
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/3330/kk023lg.png

by **dolomite13** on Wed May 01, 2013 4:40 am

waauw wrote:omg dude, your maps are amazing.
where do you get all this inspiration

Monsters was born from 30+ years of playing Dungeons & Dragons.

The Conquer 500 comes from having played boardgames like Formula D and video games like Super Sprint.

Homeworlds comes from my collection of space conquest board games as well as my love for video games games like Reach For The Stars.

As for Krazy Kingdoms ... well I have always loved the variability in both Cosmic Encounter and Small World board games. And wanted to see if I could push the envelope of conditional borders and came up with an Idea that fit their basic random configuration setup and brought it into the world of Conquer Club.

There are other games that I think could be reworked in the Conquer Club style but I will just hang onto those ideas for now

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by **dolomite13** on Thu May 02, 2013 9:17 pm

I am having issues with Nukes games on my Conquer 500 map and I think something similar could happen with this map. A random nuke could take out your special denying you access to that bonus. Likewise you could lose your race and the favored territory bonuses. Dropping you from 26 bonus to a max of 10.

Is there any way we could fix this with conditional borders... for instance if you lose your kingdom you can reclaim it from your any of your favored territory if you control all 4 of your favored territory... I do worry that someone who lost their kingdom could conquer 4 of someone else's favored territory and then take out that persons kingdom.

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by **koontz1973** on Fri May 03, 2013 12:16 am

dolomite13 wrote:I am having issues with Nukes games on my Conquer 500 map and I think something similar could happen with this map. A random nuke could take out your special denying you access to that bonus. Likewise you could lose your race and the favored territory bonuses. Dropping you from 26 bonus to a max of 10.

Is there any way we could fix this with conditional borders... for instance if you lose your kingdom you can reclaim it from your any of your favored territory if you control all 4 of your favored territory... I do worry that someone who lost their kingdom could conquer 4 of someone else's favored territory and then take out that persons kingdom.

=D=

I do not see this as an issue. Since nukes came out, it has changed dramatically some maps. Look at maps with losing conditions like Antarctica. Das Schlob, you can lose your parachute and all those lovely auto deploys. Players know this when playing nukes and accept it.

by **dolomite13** on Fri May 03, 2013 1:04 am

ok if your cool with it ...

Whats the verdict on graphics... can I start lookin at XML

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by **isaiah40** on Fri May 03, 2013 11:15 am

dolomite13 wrote:ok if your cool with it ...

Whats the verdict on graphics... can I start lookin at XML

=D=

I was making sure that you were finished working out the extra gameplay. Now that you seem to be done, I will look at this a little closer over the next couple of days.

by **dolomite13** on Fri May 03, 2013 7:36 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
dolomite13 wrote:ok if your cool with it ...

Whats the verdict on graphics... can I start lookin at XML

=D=

I was making sure that you were finished working out the extra gameplay. Now that you seem to be done, I will look at this a little closer over the next couple of days.

Sounds good ... I think the extra gameplay seems worked out ... I only have 2 concerns about Nuke games...

1) fanatics and Wizards rely on you having a favored territory.
2) you can lose your race and not recover it hence also lose a favored territory.

I don't want to add another resource type for fanatics or wizards and still can't think of an elegant way to get your race back if it gets nuked. Players that lose a race or special ability will not be happy that's for sure.

I guess we could leave it as is and see how much rage it brings when it happens in beta.

=D=

by **koontz1973** on Sat May 04, 2013 12:01 am

dolomite13 wrote:1) fanatics and Wizards rely on you having a favored territory.
2) you can lose your race and not recover it hence also lose a favored territory.

And as I have said, nukes change a lot of games. These are not huge and you should not concern yourself with it. Having each of the races slightly different means you get different strategy for them.

by **dolomite13** on Sat May 04, 2013 1:53 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
dolomite13 wrote:1) fanatics and Wizards rely on you having a favored territory.
2) you can lose your race and not recover it hence also lose a favored territory.

And as I have said, nukes change a lot of games. These are not huge and you should not concern yourself with it. Having each of the races slightly different means you get different strategy for them.

True I will say I am good with game play then.

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by **dolomite13** on Wed May 08, 2013 1:09 pm

Gilligan has graciously offered to take control of the XML on this one.

This makes me so happy as his work on other maps XML has been fantastic.

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by **isaiah40** on Wed May 15, 2013 4:10 pm

This map is a pleasure to look at! I don't see anything, unless my eyes are too old and can't see clearly. 8-[

by **dolomite13** on Wed May 15, 2013 5:43 pm

Just noticed J1, J2, J3, J4 are in the wrong order... I tried to number territories so that all player starting territories ended in the number 1 and then they were numbered by distance from territory 1 with 2 being the next closest and 4 being the farthest.

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