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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:28 am

Files have been sent! :D
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby Seamus76 on Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:07 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Files have been sent! :D
Thanks. Just saw it's live!! Let the games begin.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:53 pm

Seamus76 wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:Files have been sent! :D
Thanks. Just saw it's live!! Let the games begin.

Well that was a mistake, it shouldn't have gone live yet.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:56 pm

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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby EricPhail on Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:01 pm

Okay I'll open the beta feedack with a quick question:

Cities bonus: The legend says +1 per 2 (implying +4 if you hold all of them)

however accoring to BOB: City Bonus (1) 3 City Bonus (2) 4 City Bonus (3) 5 City Bonus (4) 6 City Bonus (5) 7 City Bonus (6)
8 City Bonus (7) (that +1 for every city after the first)

Is BOB misreading this? If not: is the legend misleading, or the bonus coded wrong?
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:12 am

EricPhail wrote:Okay I'll open the beta feedack with a quick question:

Cities bonus: The legend says +1 per 2 (implying +4 if you hold all of them)

however accoring to BOB: City Bonus (1) 3 City Bonus (2) 4 City Bonus (3) 5 City Bonus (4) 6 City Bonus (5) 7 City Bonus (6)
8 City Bonus (7) (that +1 for every city after the first)

Is BOB misreading this? If not: is the legend misleading, or the bonus coded wrong?


Probably BOB misreading it. BOB hasn't been fixed (to my knowledge, anyway) to read the collections bonus properly. You'll see the same problem with USA 2.1's capital cities and interstate bonuses, for example.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby EricPhail on Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:53 am

-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:
EricPhail wrote:Okay I'll open the beta feedack with a quick question:

Cities bonus: The legend says +1 per 2 (implying +4 if you hold all of them)

however accoring to BOB: City Bonus (1) 3 City Bonus (2) 4 City Bonus (3) 5 City Bonus (4) 6 City Bonus (5) 7 City Bonus (6)
8 City Bonus (7) (that +1 for every city after the first)

Is BOB misreading this? If not: is the legend misleading, or the bonus coded wrong?


Probably BOB misreading it. BOB hasn't been fixed (to my knowledge, anyway) to read the collections bonus properly. You'll see the same problem with USA 2.1's capital cities and interstate bonuses, for example.


I though BOBs problem with collections was underestimating not overestimating (eg. labyrinth doesn't recognise, multiple minotaur or food bonuses)

This goes the other way (and with each item listed seperately) and thus looks to be a different issue IMO
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:01 am

EricPhail wrote:
-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:
EricPhail wrote:Okay I'll open the beta feedack with a quick question:

Cities bonus: The legend says +1 per 2 (implying +4 if you hold all of them)

however accoring to BOB: City Bonus (1) 3 City Bonus (2) 4 City Bonus (3) 5 City Bonus (4) 6 City Bonus (5) 7 City Bonus (6)
8 City Bonus (7) (that +1 for every city after the first)

Is BOB misreading this? If not: is the legend misleading, or the bonus coded wrong?


Probably BOB misreading it. BOB hasn't been fixed (to my knowledge, anyway) to read the collections bonus properly. You'll see the same problem with USA 2.1's capital cities and interstate bonuses, for example.


I though BOBs problem with collections was underestimating not overestimating (eg. labyrinth doesn't recognise, multiple minotaur or food bonuses)

This goes the other way (and with each item listed seperately) and thus looks to be a different issue IMO


That does sound like a different problem then, since the one I'm familiar with is underestimating, rather than over estimating.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby Seamus76 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:12 am

EricPhail wrote:Okay I'll open the beta feedack with a quick question:

Cities bonus: The legend says +1 per 2 (implying +4 if you hold all of them)

however accoring to BOB: City Bonus (1) 3 City Bonus (2) 4 City Bonus (3) 5 City Bonus (4) 6 City Bonus (5) 7 City Bonus (6)
8 City Bonus (7) (that +1 for every city after the first)

Is BOB misreading this? If not: is the legend misleading, or the bonus coded wrong?

Ok, I see this too. I had 3 cities and received +2 instead of the +1 it should be, until 4 cities are held, then +2 would be correct.

So, are you all saying it's an XML issue? If so that's fine, we can take a look and see what the problem is. If it's BOB, then I'm not sure what to do, since some people don't use BOB. But based on what you all are saying it doesn't seem like BOB, correct?
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:56 pm

Seamus76 wrote:
EricPhail wrote:Okay I'll open the beta feedack with a quick question:

Cities bonus: The legend says +1 per 2 (implying +4 if you hold all of them)

however accoring to BOB: City Bonus (1) 3 City Bonus (2) 4 City Bonus (3) 5 City Bonus (4) 6 City Bonus (5) 7 City Bonus (6)
8 City Bonus (7) (that +1 for every city after the first)

Is BOB misreading this? If not: is the legend misleading, or the bonus coded wrong?

Ok, I see this too. I had 3 cities and received +2 instead of the +1 it should be, until 4 cities are held, then +2 would be correct.

So, are you all saying it's an XML issue? If so that's fine, we can take a look and see what the problem is. If it's BOB, then I'm not sure what to do, since some people don't use BOB. But based on what you all are saying it doesn't seem like BOB, correct?


Whether it's a BOB or XML issue can easily be determined by what bonus you're actually getting as indicated by the game log. If the log is saying +2 for 3 cities then it's likely an XML issue, if it's saying +1 for 3 cities, then it's likely a BOB issue.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:30 pm

Well, for starters, you can get rid of the 3, 5 and 7 city bonus if it's +1 for every 2.

In the XML the 4 City Bonus gives +3...should be +2. 6 says +5 and should be +4, 8 says 7 and should be +6, so the XML is being overshot by 1.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby EricPhail on Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:35 pm

Gilligan wrote:Well, for starters, you can get rid of the 3, 5 and 7 city bonus if it's +1 for every 2.

In the XML the 4 City Bonus gives +3...should be +2. 6 says +5 and should be +4, 8 says 7 and should be +6, so the XML is being overshot by 1.


Surely 6 should give +3 and 8 give +4 (as I said in my first post on the matter - it's currently +1 for each city after the first, rather than +1 per 2 as it's meant to be)
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:37 pm

EricPhail wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Well, for starters, you can get rid of the 3, 5 and 7 city bonus if it's +1 for every 2.

In the XML the 4 City Bonus gives +3...should be +2. 6 says +5 and should be +4, 8 says 7 and should be +6, so the XML is being overshot by 1.


Surely 6 should give +3 and 8 give +4 (as I said in my first post on the matter - it's currently +1 for each city after the first, rather than +1 per 2 as it's meant to be)


Right, yeah, sorry. :oops: :oops:
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby Seamus76 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:04 pm

Gilligan wrote:
EricPhail wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Well, for starters, you can get rid of the 3, 5 and 7 city bonus if it's +1 for every 2.

In the XML the 4 City Bonus gives +3...should be +2. 6 says +5 and should be +4, 8 says 7 and should be +6, so the XML is being overshot by 1.


Surely 6 should give +3 and 8 give +4 (as I said in my first post on the matter - it's currently +1 for each city after the first, rather than +1 per 2 as it's meant to be)


Right, yeah, sorry. :oops: :oops:

:lol: Ok, so is it the XML or what? How do we fix it?
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:13 pm

Here you go
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-01] p16

Postby Seamus76 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:21 pm

Gilligan wrote:Here you go
Thanks!! I'll get the OP and the Official XML thread updated.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-31] p19 XML Only

Postby eugenesg on Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:15 am

kudos...this map is long overdue! an interesting period of china's history
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-31] p19 XML Only

Postby Seamus76 on Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:25 am

eugenesg wrote:kudos...this map is long overdue! an interesting period of china's history
thanks so much, it's pretty fun so far, and I'm glad you like it.

I did notice another xml fix. It looks like Liang North is coded as a city, which it shouldn't be.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-31] p19 XML Only

Postby Leehar on Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:20 am

Did anyone else have an issue with the one-way arrow on tian-shu almost blending with the mountainside?
Although once you know it's there you can distinguish it :/
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-31] p19 XML Only

Postby Seamus76 on Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:40 am

Leehar wrote:Did anyone else have an issue with the one-way arrow on tian-shu almost blending with the mountainside?
Although once you know it's there you can distinguish it :/
I have not had that feedback yet, but obviously if more people have a problem then I will do what I can to fix it.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-31] p19 XML Only

Postby Seamus76 on Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:43 am

Was there an update made to the xml? If so, now the City bonus isn't working at all.

Game 13054265

I have 3 Cities, but no +1 bonus. V.J.!!!!! :evil:
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-31] p19 XML Only

Postby V.J. on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:14 am

Here is the fix for Liang North. And I didn't do any XML changes since I went on my vacation(more than a month ago) so blame yourself Seamus or Gilligan or whoever does XML uploads :P
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-07-31] p19 XML Only

Postby Seamus76 on Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:35 am

CURRENT UPDATE INFO - 2013-08-05:
- Updated the XML (to China-v10) to fix Liang North being a City.

FOR NEXT UPLOAD:
- We need to make sure whatever version is uploaded next has Liang North as a regular tert, not a City, and has a City bonus equaling +1 for every 2 Cities. Right now those have been the only issues, but whatever current version is being used has no City bonus at all, which is a big problem.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of China - v9.0 [2013-08-05] p19 XML Only

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:24 pm

I can tell you seamus that I sent the current xml that was dated 7/22, I will now send the xml dated as of today!
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