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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby -=- Tanarri -=- on Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:44 am

When I posted the problem in the BOB thread (http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049), Ender asked that someone provide him with the old XML and the new XML so he can take a look into it.
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby ender516 on Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:50 am

-=- Tanarri -=- wrote:When I posted the problem in the BOB thread (http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=527&t=161049), Ender asked that someone provide him with the old XML and the new XML so he can take a look into it.

blakebowling noted here that things are working now, and I saw this at home last night. I was wondering if my BOBs were out of sync, but it works here at work as well. It still might be interesting to see differences in the last few versions of the XML just to see what was fouling BOB.
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dolomite13 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:10 am

i wish i had the xml version prior to the most recent but i don't have a copy. I suspect that some of this may be tied to the pit stop bonus being a bit off and will see what I can figure out when i get home from my vacation this evening. If i'm not too exhausted from the traveling.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:50 pm

dolomite13 wrote:i wish i had the xml version prior to the most recent but i don't have a copy. I suspect that some of this may be tied to the pit stop bonus being a bit off and will see what I can figure out when i get home from my vacation this evening. If i'm not too exhausted from the traveling.

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I'm sure that I've got a copy. I will try to check soon but I'm still on vacation too. :geek:
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dazza2008 on Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:30 pm

Not sure if anyone did anything but it seems to be working fine now.
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dolomite13 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:04 am

Here is the updated xml with the fix to the pit stop bonus, adding "a pit tools" and "a pit jack" to what is needed for the bonus.

If BOB is working now we can probably ignore what was happening or chalk it up to caching issues.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby ender516 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:04 am

I would not like to ignore it. You had a version of XML that the site was willing to run (whether or not it was doing precisely what you wanted), but BOB could not parse that XML. This is a problem waiting to pop up in some other map.
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dolomite13 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:49 am

ender516 wrote:I would not like to ignore it. You had a version of XML that the site was willing to run (whether or not it was doing precisely what you wanted), but BOB could not parse that XML. This is a problem waiting to pop up in some other map.


Gilligan can provide the c500r.xml and you may check that against the c500t.xml that I just posted.

It is important that the map function correctly without any third party addons and that the xml conform to the standards set forth by the foundry.

I will be happy to work with the creators of BOB to help make BOB it work with the map.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby Gilligan on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 am

this one?
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:17 am

Okay, which xml is the correct one??? I need to know before I send the file.
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dolomite13 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:21 am

isaiah40 wrote:Okay, which xml is the correct one??? I need to know before I send the file.


The one I posted... Conquer500t.xml is the correct one for the latest update. Gilligan is providing that one for comparison so we can help track down a bug on BOB.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:23 am

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isaiah40 wrote:Okay, which xml is the correct one??? I need to know before I send the file.


The one I posted... Conquer500t.xml is the correct one for the latest update. Gilligan is providing that one for comparison so we can help track down a bug on BOB.

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Okay thanks, I'll get it sent out today!
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby Gilligan on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:29 am

dolomite13 wrote:For the folks trying to troubleshoot this on BOB ... Here is a diff between the two files... Older one on left ... newer on right (this will be a valid link for 1 month from 7/25)

http://diffchecker.com/g58hxuam

I will post this in the BOB thread as well if I can find it.

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There it is.

Lines 510 and 511.

And everything else green from there on out.

That's a nice website.
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dolomite13 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:30 am

Gilligan wrote:this one?


Do you have a backup of the one before that one ... the one without the pit stop bonus?

The problems with bob started with the one on the left (R) I was able to fix the problem with line 511 and others in version (S) and then fix the pitstop bonus in version (T) but something in that one on the left caused BOB some issues.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby Gilligan on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:34 am

here.
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/19 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dolomite13 on Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:40 am

Here is the diff where BOB broke initially

http://diffchecker.com/eac16r7y

Here is the changes between the working one and the current XML that I just submitted.

http://diffchecker.com/e35ekozf

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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/25 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:08 pm

New XML has been uploaded!
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Re: The Conquer 500 - 7/25 - Minor XML Update (Ready For Upl

Postby dolomite13 on Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:37 pm

isaiah40 wrote:New XML has been uploaded!


Excellent =) Thanx

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Re: The Conquer 500 - [BETA]

Postby dolomite13 on Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:54 pm

Just over 2 weeks since the last XML update and I am really happy with how the map is playing. I still can't stand "no spoils" games as they bog down on this map just like every other "no spoils" map.

Anyway if anyone has seen any issues with bonuses or territory connections or if you feel like the added bonuses or the connection between the pit equipment and the pit row seem somehow imbalancing please let us know.

Looks like we have the white flag with one lap left to go before this map enters the winners circle ;)

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Re: The Conquer 500 - [BETA]

Postby iancanton on Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:38 am

in Game 13029228, 2013-07-27 00:30:02 - jkppkj received 3 troops for holding A Pit Tool and A Pit Jack and A Pit Engine. i see no mention in the legend of this particular combination of pit equipment. have i missed something or is this a mistake in the xml? i'm guessing that this happened before the latest xml was uploaded.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - [BETA]

Postby GeeksAreMyPeeps on Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:58 am

iancanton wrote:in Game 13029228, 2013-07-27 00:30:02 - jkppkj received 3 troops for holding A Pit Tool and A Pit Jack and A Pit Engine. i see no mention in the legend of this particular combination of pit equipment. have i missed something or is this a mistake in the xml? i'm guessing that this happened before the latest xml was uploaded.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - [BETA]

Postby dolomite13 on Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:08 pm

iancanton wrote:in Game 13029228, 2013-07-27 00:30:02 - jkppkj received 3 troops for holding A Pit Tool and A Pit Jack and A Pit Engine. i see no mention in the legend of this particular combination of pit equipment. have i missed something or is this a mistake in the xml? i'm guessing that this happened before the latest xml was uploaded. - ian. :)


The bonus and it's overrides are correct in the xml that Gilligan posted above however the title of that bonus is a typo. So it won't affect play but will look strange in the summary till it is fixed. In that game jkppkj held the right territories for the bonus.

Here is a side by side showing the typo... http://www.diffchecker.com/9jh231eu

It is corrected in this xml.

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Re: The Conquer 500 - [BETA]

Postby Gilligan on Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:50 pm

Whoops, sorry if that was me! I don't know how that could have happened though...
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Re: The Conquer 500 - [BETA]

Postby dolomite13 on Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:24 am

We are on the final lap of the race here but I noticed something in a in a game recently that makes me want to make a small change.

When someone used winners circle to clean out the entire pits and there were 3 players left on the track ... in trench mode it became almost impossible to effectively move around the track ... I am not sure anything really needs to be done about it but if we simply added "winners circle can assault pit row" it would allow you to loop back to the red circles on the track via the a cost of 20 neutral in winners circle and 20 neutral at pit row making.

Does anyone else think this change would make the map better?
... or worse?
... or change strategy too greatly?

I really feel it would open up the map a bit and give a nice a slightly expensive way to bypass the counterclockwise flow of the track that would certainly help in the late game.

Thoughts?

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