TLO 2012 IV [Winners: Harem Kings]

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:36 pm

Interesting - the top two teams both losing out in the crucial Round 13. So it will all come down to the final round by the look of things. Go TOFU2 Harem Kings
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Master Fenrir on Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:38 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Interesting - the top two teams both losing out in the crucial Round 13. So it will all come down to the final round by the look of things. Go TOFU2 Harem Kings

Yes. It would have been awesome if Deli didn't bring his fail dice to that Actium game.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby uckuki on Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:17 pm

Round 10
Tutti Frutti v The Warriors 13:7

S1 Game 11562940 - France 1789 - Tutti Frutti
S2 Game 11562941 - Peloponnesian War - The Warriors

D1 Game 11562944 - Egypt: Lower - The Warriors
D2 Game 11562945 - Indian Empire - Tutti Frutti
D3 Game 11562949 - Middle Ages - The Warriors
D4 Tutti Frutti Forfeit

T1 Game 11562952 - Poison Rome - Tutti Frutti
T2 Game 11562953 - Holy Roman Empire - Tutti Frutti

Q1 Game 11562954 - Age of Merchants - Tutti Frutti
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby uckuki on Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:21 pm

Round 12
Tutti Frutti vs TNC 9:11

S1 Game 11689509 - U.S. Senate - TNC==
S2 Game 11689510 - USA Great Lakes - Tutti Frutti

D1 Game 11689511 - San Francisco - TNC
D2 Game 11689513 - Rail USA - TNC
D3 Game 11689514 - Puget Sound - Tutti Frutti
D4 Game 11689517 - Great Lakes - TNC

T1 Game 11689520 - USA -Tutti Frutti
T2 Game 11689522 - Charleston - Tutti Frutti

Q1 Game 11689525 - Texan Wars - TNC
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby uckuki on Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:25 pm

Round 13
Tutti Frutti vs The Reds 6:14

S1 Game 11747365 - Imperium Romanum - Tutti Frutti
S2 Game 11747367 - Circus Maximus - The Reds

D1 Game 11747370 - Egypt: Valley of the Kings - The Reds
D2 Game 11747373 - Ancient Greece - Tutti Frutti
D3 Game 11747375 - Feudal War - The Reds
D4 Game 11747377 - Peloponnesian War - The Reds

T1 Game 11747379 - Holy Roman Empire - Tutti Frutti
T2 Game 11747380 - Alexander's Empire - The Reds

Q1 Game 11747381 - Battle of Actium - The Reds
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Lindax on Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:29 pm

Lindax wrote:-
The final round of this tournament is now ongoing. It will take a while for all games to finish, but I would like to ask all for a little help with determining the MVTM (Most Valuable Team Member).

The MVTM of this tournament will be the player (other than the MVP) who contributed the most points to his/her team and also complies with the requisites mentioned below.

The player must have:

  1. Been a member of the same team for the whole tournament
  2. Played at least 2 singles, 2 doubles, 2 triples and 2 quads games
  3. Followed the tournament rules and Conquer Club rules and/or guidelines for the duration of this tournament


For me to figure this out would take longer than the whole tournament, so I would like to ask you to send me a PM if you seriously think you could be the one to win this General Achievement Medal, or if you think a team member could be the MVTM. If you send me a PM, please state the amount of points that you or your team member contributed to the team.

Thank you all in advance,

Lx


After receiving various PMs about this I think I may need to clarify something:

There are two General Achievement Medals available for individual players. One is the Most Valuable Player (MVP) and the other is the Most Valuable team Member (MVTM). The first one (MVP) is for the player with the highest winning percentage, which I can find out by using the Tournament Stats application.

The other one (MVTM) is for the player who won the most points for his/her team. This is of all the teams and not per team. There will only be one player who will be named MVTM (unless there happen to be more players tied with exactly the same score). This is something more difficult for me to find out, hence I asked for your cooperation.

Also based on PMs I received I would propose a different approach to find the winner of the MVTM title: After all games have finished, it would be the easiest if the Team Captains (or another team member) calculate and send me the points for their team members, including themselves.

For more details on the requirements of the MVP and MVTM, please go to the first post

Thanks,

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby josko.ri on Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:21 am

Lindax wrote:
Lindax wrote:-
The final round of this tournament is now ongoing. It will take a while for all games to finish, but I would like to ask all for a little help with determining the MVTM (Most Valuable Team Member).

The MVTM of this tournament will be the player (other than the MVP) who contributed the most points to his/her team and also complies with the requisites mentioned below.

The player must have:

  1. Been a member of the same team for the whole tournament
  2. Played at least 2 singles, 2 doubles, 2 triples and 2 quads games
  3. Followed the tournament rules and Conquer Club rules and/or guidelines for the duration of this tournament


For me to figure this out would take longer than the whole tournament, so I would like to ask you to send me a PM if you seriously think you could be the one to win this General Achievement Medal, or if you think a team member could be the MVTM. If you send me a PM, please state the amount of points that you or your team member contributed to the team.

Thank you all in advance,

Lx


After receiving various PMs about this I think I may need to clarify something:

There are two General Achievement Medals available for individual players. One is the Most Valuable Player (MVP) and the other is the Most Valuable team Member (MVTM). The first one (MVP) is for the player with the highest winning percentage, which I can find out by using the Tournament Stats application.

The other one (MVTM) is for the player who won the most points for his/her team. This is of all the teams and not per team. There will only be one player who will be named MVTM (unless there happen to be more players tied with exactly the same score). This is something more difficult for me to find out, hence I asked for your cooperation.

Also based on PMs I received I would propose a different approach to find the winner of the MVTM title: After all games have finished, it would be the easiest if the Team Captains (or another team member) calculate and send me the points for their team members, including themselves.

For more details on the requirements of the MVP and MVTM, please go to the first post

Thanks,

Lx


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how it should be calculated forfeited games into this awards?
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:31 am

Round 13 vs The Warriors
Game 11747292 Cat
Game 11747293 Dako
Game 11747295 Denise/CoF
Game 11747296 Pedro/Dako
Game 11747297 CoF/Krikee
Game 11747298 Denise/Krikee
Game 11747299 Pedro/CoF/Dako
Game 11747300 Denise/Cat/Dako
Game 11747301 Pedro/Cat/Krikee/CoF
Score TOFU 18 Warriors 2

Round 14 vs Dynasty
Game 11811968 S1 Golfe Du Saint-Laurent E S Denise
Game 11811969 S2 Steamworks NS F krikee

Game 11811970 D1 Austro-Hungarian Empire FR F Chariot of Fire Dako
Game 11811971 D2 Tribal War - Florida NS S Dako Denise
Game 11811974 D3 London NS F Pedronicus Denise
Game 11811975 D4 Portland E F Chariot of Fire krikee
Game 11811978 T1 Kingdom of Denmark E F Pedronicus Chariot of Fire Dako
Game 11811980 T2 California NS F Denise Dako krikee
Game 11811981 Q Rorke's Drift FR F Pedronicus Chariot of Fire Dako Denise
Score TOFU 20 Dynasty 0

Sweep in R14.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:22 am

josko.ri wrote:
Lindax wrote:
Lindax wrote:-
The final round of this tournament is now ongoing. It will take a while for all games to finish, but I would like to ask all for a little help with determining the MVTM (Most Valuable Team Member).

The MVTM of this tournament will be the player (other than the MVP) who contributed the most points to his/her team and also complies with the requisites mentioned below.

The player must have:

  1. Been a member of the same team for the whole tournament
  2. Played at least 2 singles, 2 doubles, 2 triples and 2 quads games
  3. Followed the tournament rules and Conquer Club rules and/or guidelines for the duration of this tournament


For me to figure this out would take longer than the whole tournament, so I would like to ask you to send me a PM if you seriously think you could be the one to win this General Achievement Medal, or if you think a team member could be the MVTM. If you send me a PM, please state the amount of points that you or your team member contributed to the team.

Thank you all in advance,

Lx


After receiving various PMs about this I think I may need to clarify something:

There are two General Achievement Medals available for individual players. One is the Most Valuable Player (MVP) and the other is the Most Valuable team Member (MVTM). The first one (MVP) is for the player with the highest winning percentage, which I can find out by using the Tournament Stats application.

The other one (MVTM) is for the player who won the most points for his/her team. This is of all the teams and not per team. There will only be one player who will be named MVTM (unless there happen to be more players tied with exactly the same score). This is something more difficult for me to find out, hence I asked for your cooperation.

Also based on PMs I received I would propose a different approach to find the winner of the MVTM title: After all games have finished, it would be the easiest if the Team Captains (or another team member) calculate and send me the points for their team members, including themselves.

For more details on the requirements of the MVP and MVTM, please go to the first post

Thanks,

Lx


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how it should be calculated forfeited games into this awards?


Josko, I already answered that for the MVP. I will use the Tournament Stats application, so forfeited games won't show up.

Similar, for the MVTM, forfeited games do not count towards the points players contributed to their teams. Only games one actually played and won will count.

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:24 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Round 14 vs Dynasty
Game 11811968 S1 Golfe Du Saint-Laurent E S Denise
Game 11811969 S2 Steamworks NS F krikee

Game 11811970 D1 Austro-Hungarian Empire FR F Chariot of Fire Dako
Game 11811971 D2 Tribal War - Florida NS S Dako Denise
Game 11811974 D3 London NS F Pedronicus Denise
Game 11811975 D4 Portland E F Chariot of Fire krikee
Game 11811978 T1 Kingdom of Denmark E F Pedronicus Chariot of Fire Dako
Game 11811980 T2 California NS F Denise Dako krikee
Game 11811981 Q Rorke's Drift FR F Pedronicus Chariot of Fire Dako Denise
Score TOFU 20 Dynasty 0

Sweep in R14.


With one forfeited game though.... ;)

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:08 pm

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The game rosters for Round 14 have been updated. There are still 2 games ongoing.

For the Schedule, Maps & Settings and other Round Info:
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Master Fenrir on Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:40 pm

Lindax wrote:Similar, for the MVTM, forfeited games do not count towards the points players contributed to their teams. Only games one actually played and won will count.

Lx


Hmm, but have you considered the intimidation factor? Some of us are so scary that people just don't want to join games against us. Isn't that valuable?

(Totally just messing with you, Lx. I get it.)
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Update]

Postby Lindax on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:22 pm

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby agentcom on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:11 am

I'm assuming that with the MVTM, you're asking for gross not net point totals, right? Also, anyone have any idea what is good? I'm not going to bother calculating this for our team if there are players with like 100 or more gross.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Lindax on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:45 am

agentcom wrote:I'm assuming that with the MVTM, you're asking for gross not net point totals, right? Also, anyone have any idea what is good? I'm not going to bother calculating this for our team if there are players with like 100 or more gross.


Gross, as in all the point you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.

Yes, there are players with 100+ points.

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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:30 pm

When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby josko.ri on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:33 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:37 pm

josko.ri wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.


How do you know this? I don't believe this to be true. Look at Lindax's last post:

Gross, as in all the points you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby josko.ri on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:43 pm

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Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.


How do you know this? I don't believe this to be true. Look at Lindax's last post:

Gross, as in all the points you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.

I read it in the first post of the tournament there are explained difference between the 2 awards
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:13 pm

josko.ri wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:When you say 'points' do you mean, e.g, 4pts for a quads win (not 1pt, as 4 players in a quad won 1pt each)?

And is the calculation going to be based on gross points won, not nett? So the player who joined the max 6 games per round (and played 84 games in total) and won 43 lost 41 will have a better chance of winning MVP/MVTM than the player who joined the minimum number required to qualify (50%, i.e. 42 games) and won them all? Doesn't seem to be the fairest method if this is the case.

the player who joined 50% games and won them all will win MVP award, as he has the best winning percentage. however, the other player who payed a lot but didn't win a lot will get the MVTM award.


How do you know this? I don't believe this to be true. Look at Lindax's last post:

Gross, as in all the points you won for the team, except forfeits. Points you lost don't come into it.

I read it in the first post of the tournament there are explained difference between the 2 awards


Can you quote from the first post of the tournament where it shows the calculation that will be used? You have said "Best winning percentage" I would like to know where it says that.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Master Fenrir on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:32 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Can you quote from the first post of the tournament where it shows the calculation that will be used? You have said "Best winning percentage" I would like to know where it says that.

Lindax wrote:How to Become MVP
show: how the mvp will be decided


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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby josko.ri on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:43 pm

I think Master Fenrir will be MVTM by quick looking. can he post his total score, so it can be merit for others. if someone is found to have more score than him, then he/she may post.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:33 am

Thanks for posting that. Dunno why I didn't see it on any of the occasions I looked at those tabs.

So MVP = highest win % for the player who played the minimum 45 games (inc 2S, 2D, 2T & 2Q)

MVTM = highest points contribution to the team (even if that same player could potentially have also lost the most points for the team!) inc 2S, 2D, 2T & 2Q.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Master Fenrir on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:51 am

josko.ri wrote:I think Master Fenrir will be MVTM by quick looking. can he post his total score, so it can be merit for others. if someone is found to have more score than him, then he/she may post.


I just got done compiling the stats for my team. I have three active games, but if those finish as I expect they will, my record will be 40 wins, 22 losses. I have 110 total points thus far, likely to finish with 114. For CoF's benefit, it's a +56 point differential. I wasn't demanding game slots, but we only had HardAttack for the first 4 rounds and I had to compensate for being a man down for the rest of the tournament. I asked everybody on my team which games they wanted, and filled up the rest only after they were first assigned to the games they said they wanted. You can ask them.
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Re: TLO 2012 IV [Final Round 15]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 am

josko.ri wrote:I think Master Fenrir will be MVTM by quick looking. can he post his total score, so it can be merit for others. if someone is found to have more score than him, then he/she may post.


Master Fenrir: Plyd 62, Won 39, Lost 20, Ongoing 3. Pts won 110, Pts lost 53. Current win % = 66.10% (Best possible win % = 67.74%)
josko.ri : Plyd 47, Won 30, Lost 17. Pts won 82, Pts lost 44. Win % = 63.83%
Denise : Plyd 52, Won 35, Lost 16, Ongoing 1. Pts won 92, Pts lost 44. Current win % = 68.63% (Best possible win % = 69.23%)
CoF : Plyd 46, Won 32, Lost 11, Ongoing 3. Pts won 85, Pts lost 31. Current win % = 74.42% (Worst poss = 69.56%)

So Fen looks like being the front runner for MVTM if it's solely based on overall points won (110pts so far). MVP could be me (yay!) based on Win %, though I'm not familiar with all the others' scores and who else might be in the running.
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