DKs CC Scrabble [Winner: got tonkaed]

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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:14 am

Well, it's only the first day, and only half the games have begun, but already I can see a terrible shortage of vowels. Now, I need some input from you guys:

Should there be a rule change of some kind to bring more vowels into the game. Here's a few possibilities:

Option 1: The default value is always to do nothing, just leave it as it is. This will most likely mean that some players will be completely unable to make a word, but after all, only one can win the tournament anyway, so why not save a step and have people know right from the opening bell that they're going to lose?

Option 2: We could have everyone get a random vowel after the opening round. The upside is that everyone will at least be able to make a word. The downside is that this tourney, which already has a large random element, will be even more randomly-ruled.

Option 3: We could have an auction after the opening round, where everyone can "sell" two consonants for one vowel of their choice.

Option 4: This is actually a variation of option 2. It's the best that I can see so far. After the opening round, everyone will get two random vowels. Only one of those can be put in your protected list. The other one MUST be available for challenge. The challenge round for vowels will be independent of the challenge round for consonants.

Option 5: (As suggested by DoomYoshi) If you find yourself short of vowels, you may add up to two vowels to your rack at no cost. However, these free vowels will score no points.

Well, those are some ideas. Feel free to suggest others. Please post and discuss -- do not leave me without a sense of which option you would prefer. And if you want to just leave the status quo, please say so explicitly.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:48 pm

You say we can use online resources. What are the limits on words other than 7 letters? Does urban dictionary count? How about Olde English? Foreign languages?

Option 5: Allow players to use whatever vowels they want but have fought for vowels be worth more?
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby chapcrap on Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:02 pm

Do you have a list of the values of the Scrabble letters?

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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:07 pm

chapcrap wrote:Do you have a list of the values of the Scrabble letters?

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I can post one tomorrow.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:11 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:You say we can use online resources. What are the limits on words other than 7 letters? Does urban dictionary count? How about Olde English? Foreign languages?


No.
Dukasaur wrote:game ended. The word must be in the standard Scrabble dictionary. It will score according to standard Scrabble point values (no double or triple bonuses apply.)

Feel free to use any resource (online thesaurus, etc.) to make your word. (Yes, it would be

The word must be in the standard Scrabble dictionary in order to score. However, browsing the dictionary is not a very efficient method of spotting a word, so we're allowing other resources to be used to assemble it.

DoomYoshi wrote:Option 5: Allow players to use whatever vowels they want but have fought for vowels be worth more?

I'm not sure I understand, but I will get back to this tomorrow.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:31 pm

I mean give everyone an unlimited pool (or nearly unlimited) of vowels that are worth 0. So consonant use is the focus. However the letter you won from Austerlitz still gives a value of 1.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:49 am

DoomYoshi wrote:I mean give everyone an unlimited pool (or nearly unlimited) of vowels that are worth 0. So consonant use is the focus. However the letter you won from Austerlitz still gives a value of 1.


Okay, I've added that option to the list. I limited it to two vowels, however.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby IR1SH ACE on Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:49 am

hey man, really enjoying this tourny....good work,
I was just about to come in here and say there is not enough vowels to play for but I see u have already addressed the issue...

I think option 4 or option 5 would sort out the prob...

Cheers and keep up the good work :D
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby dazza2008 on Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:58 am

I say option 4
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Gilligan on Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:44 am

I think you should keep it as is.

Maps with A: 15
Maps with E: 10
Maps with I: 7
Maps with O: 4
Maps with U: 11

The only real vowels that would be hard to obtain are I and O, you don't absolutely need them either.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:20 pm

chapcrap wrote:Do you have a list of the values of the Scrabble letters?

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Official List of Scrabble Letter Values:

1 pt. A E I L N O R S T U

2 pt. D G

3 pt. B C M P

4 pt. F H V W Y

5 pt. K

8 pt. J X

10 pt. Q Z
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:22 pm

Gilligan wrote:I think you should keep it as is.

Maps with A: 15
Maps with E: 10
Maps with I: 7
Maps with O: 4
Maps with U: 11

The only real vowels that would be hard to obtain are I and O, you don't absolutely need them either.


Good thing I'm not playing. If I can't make ZOOLOGY in a Scrabble game I get depressed for days.

:lol:

On a more serious note. The trouble is not so much what maps are available (because except for the Ws, the distribution of map names is not too far off from the distribution of letters in everyday language, and there is only a slight tendency towards a shortage of vowels.) The trouble has arisen because in the small sample size, the random maps that have actually come up so far in the tournament have skewed the distribution even further. So, a slight tendency has become a rather severe tendency. Vowels are represented by about 25% of the games that have actually started, instead of the 35 or 40% that one would hope for. This might be a problem, or it might not. Maybe the 22 games that haven't been joined yet will completely reverse the trend and be all vowels. We shall see.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Gilligan on Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:06 pm

I got 3 Us... :lol:

Zuulugy?
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby dazza2008 on Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:40 pm

i say keep it the same now too

i need to win ireland or usa and i have a word haha
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:54 pm

Ok I'm out of town for the next 30 hours again, so unfortunately if bannana lets his invites expire again, I won't be here in the morning to renew them. I hope he gets here and accepts them, but otherwise it will be early Tuesday morning before I can activate a reserve.

Stringybeany also still has some invites to accept, but he's been in contact and that's under control.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:12 am

bannana0 has let his invitations expire for the second time and is now disqualified. Activating got tonkaed.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby chapcrap on Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:14 pm

I think the change to let 2 vowels in is ok. If I don't get any vowels at all, I'd be screwed.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:04 pm

All Opening Round games have now started. In fact, 46 of them are already finished.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Gilligan on Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:09 pm

I have the opposite problem...I have too many vowels...
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Hannibal 19 on Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:19 am

i got 3 C 2 U 1 P and playing for E what should i do i loocked in scrabble dictionary and cant get a word of 5 or more latters.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:04 am

Hannibal 19 wrote:i got 3 C 2 U 1 P and playing for E what should i do i loocked in scrabble dictionary and cant get a word of 5 or more latters.


Yeah not too often you can get a 7-letter word. Sometimes a 3- or 4-letter word is the best that you can do.

You may still be able to improve your letters in the Challenge phase.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby Hannibal 19 on Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:19 am

if i won my last game and i think i will i have 7 letters and im no able to make a challenge
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [FULL]

Postby got tonkaed on Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:01 am

Hannibal 19 wrote:if i won my last game and i think i will i have 7 letters and im no able to make a challenge


Lament your bad luck or decision to win so many of your games.
We dont know what happens in the after, but we know its different than what happened in the before.
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [Opening Round]

Postby xSekirei on Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:44 pm

Finished all my games ^^
Letters :
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Act, Bat, Cat, Cab, Tab O: I can make so many words :D
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Re: DKs CC Scrabble [Opening Round]

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:37 am

Only three games still active, and two of those look like they're almost over, but there's one that's still very close and doesn't look like it will end any time soon. There's always one in the basket, isn't there?
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