Make games require minimum or maximum points/rank [REJECTED]

[agentcom]

Mod edit: This will be a repository for most suggestions that in some way attempt to allow an option for players to segregate public games by score. There are many users on this site that would like this to be a feature. But for now, the official status of these suggestions is REJECTED. All of them. Even ones that limit to +/- 2 ranks above/below the creator's. No matter how creative or unique they have been, they have all been REJECTED up to this point. This is not to say that the discussion needs to stop, or that you should be discouraged from lending your support to this idea. However, as it stands now, this is not and will not be implemented. It has been suggested for a variety of reasons including reducing farming, reducing defenses to farming allegations, convenience and personal preference. If you must post a new suggestion of this manner, please catch yourself up on this idea's history. Your idea has probably been thought of and posted before. If you see any other topics that should be MERGED with this one, please post them here. - agentcom

On a similar note, other methods of segregation have also been REJECTED. For example:

By allowing this option only for premiums - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=100129&p=2274718
By allowing an option to disallow lower ranked players - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=68844
By other criteria such as games played or attendance/turn percentage - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=103184&p=2334949
Or even by age - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=105383&p=2376063
By allowing players to drop a game that has a high point difference - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=156448&p=3429757

Here are some highlights of this thread:

July 11, 2006:

I don't like this idea. What if it became popular? New recruits would have trouble finding games. They would be stuck in games with other new recruits and their first CC experience would be full of deadbeating.

You only get one chance to make a first impression

July 15, 2009:

i am not a gold member, so how can i avoid playing cooks?

$25

He could find a premium friend that starts passworded games too.

If this gets brought up multiple times a month maybe there is something to it?

A poor and/or unwanted idea doesn't get any better/wanted just because it is repeatedly suggested.
Rank discrimination is still possible, CC just don't want to make it too easily done.

July 17, 2010:

The reason this won't be done is that they believe if new recruits are less able to join games with high rankers, that means they are going to be playing with themselves more often. Games with new recruits are generally less enjoyable because they tend to deadbeat or suicide more often than experienced players. So new recruits would be less likely to stay and ultimately purchase premium because they would have a more negative experience by playing in games with more deadbeats like themselves. Along with the fact point segregation is bad. How are lower ranks supposed to learn if they can't find an open game against a higher rank? They will just keep learning bad strategies

Finally, some users have posted suggestions that you be able to filter Game Finder results by rank (among numerous other desired filters). This thread is not intended to cover such modifications to the Game Finder results and display. I recognize that there are topics along those lines that were merged with threads that were later merged here. However, if you would like to propose modifications to the Game Finder search results/display, please find an appropriate thread. One is here: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=104785&p=2365772

We should have games that you can enter only if you've reached a certain level, this way we can have games with people of similar skill and dedication.

[Pedronicus]

Agreed. But i also want to kick some newbie butt

[max is gr8]

Maybe you should be allowed to specify the score they need to play matches.

[Marvaddin]

Maybe...

Well, I think this really interest only for the well ranked players, over 1400 points... But lets also think about the beginners, they will not like so much of Conquer Club if they begin playing games with lots of deadbeats... so, that specification under 1200 (maybe 1400) points is a bad idea, in my opinion.

Maybe we should have official tourneys by ranking... one only to sergeants, other for captains...

[mikey6rocker]

i am sick of going into a doubles or tripkes game and being stuck with newbs on my team, and end up loosing because they dont know how to play. i think then when we create games there should be an option that says all players or privates and above, or seargents and above, and so on.

[moz976]

I think that we all had to learn how to play and if you implimented your suggestion it would make finding a game hard for new people. And if you really don't want to play with new people you can always start a private game and advertise it on the forum. Then you can pick and choose who you play with.

[fishfleas]

Mike .... I feel the same way.... if you ever want a partner let me know.... I'm not a premium member... woudl have a hard time explaining it to my wife.... so I can't create private games....

[mikey6rocker]

Same, here. I am not premium. I am all for helping people play the game, m just upset at the people whom make an account join a game and dont play, then you dont have a partner. Currently i am in a triple game with 2 unranked players. ! has missed 2 turns already, so i assume he is not playing, the other is not listening to anything i have to say, even though my strategy is for the best. I dont even thing he know how to check his messages, and he hasnt respnded to the chat bnox in the game where i contacted him. its just really aggrevating because ill prbably loose the game and i cant do anything about it. i believe there should be filters. If some one doesnt want to restict anyone then they cna click all players, but for me i cant play with any new players, i just cant.

[nhulbert]

i understand about the not listening to the strategy part... i have a game going where my partner and i had it made, but i wanted to help him take out someone's austrailia before he ended his turn, but he ended it right away even though he knew i was talking to him. lol i want to play with people that think

[SprCobra]

Soemtimes you get stuck with n00bs and deadbeats but sometimes you play against n00bs and deadbeats with another experinced player
n00bs you either love em or hate em
So far 99% hate them

[lackattack]

Food for thought: should new recruits be blocked from joining team games?

If it would make team games more enjoyable and reduce the need for private games, then that's good.

But if the first few games are teams and a new player tries to join, he/she could get frustrated and give up and never come back.

Unless we just don't list team games for new recruits. Then I'll have to make sure there is always 1 open public standard game.

What do you guys think?

[moz976]

Yeah Lack I think that would fix the problem nicely. And I don't think you would have to worry about making sure there is always a game open there are more open games now than I've ever seen. You should definatly make it clear to the new ppl that they will eventually get ot play team games though because a lot of the draw to this site is getting to play with your friends.

[The Imperator]

There should be some sort of player-rank preference system, so a General can't just go noob-hunting and join a game full of New Recruits to boost his score. You should have some control over the skill level of your opponents for a fair fight.

[supermarcol]

Have you read the How to Play section? cause there is such a thing in place. If your score is 4000 and you go against people with 1000 score, you will get very little points. Please make sure you know what is in place or what has been suggested before you make a suggestion.

[Patroclus]

All is fair in Love and War.

Maybe the "Ringers" should be required to play standard sequential games against any newbies, and then any advantage of freestyle/holding/doubles would not have the advantageous effect on the ranked players.

Forced to play the game as it was originally intended, these people would be on a more fair playing field regarding newer players and maybe, just maybe, their respective asses might be handed to them in a handlebasket.

Ummmm...., Notice I used the word respect. I have respect for those that have achieved ranking status by the means implemented on this board. I just do not like those types of games that allow and nuture an uneven playing field.