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Re: Minimum rank to join games option

Postby OliverFA on Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:20 pm

I am a newcomer and I support the idea.

It would help high rank players avoid the potential lose if points if they didn't want to (after all it would be an option) but it also would help newcomers allowing us to play with someone supposed to have similar skill as we have.

If I see someone with 2000 or 3000 points I can think "oh I can get a lot of points by killing him" but I can also say "he is a lot more skilled than me. How am I supposed to win the game?" And despite luck might allow me to win, most probably the game result is decided from the start.

I think that, as someone suggested, half your score up and down should be enough. This means that you would still have some risk. The highest portential lose would be 40 points. And the highest score you have, the biger this range would be. Some examples:
Code: Select all
Score  Allowed range
1,000    500-1,500
1,500    750-2,250
2,000  1,000-3,000
2,500  1,250-3,750
3,000  1,500-4,500


and so on.

Also, if a low ranked player kills a very high ranked player. Do you think that he really has improved 100 points in his rank? Or more probably he just was lucky? In the best case scenario, a low rank player can beat 7 high rank players and earn... 700 points! Do you really think that his skill changed so dramatically only in one game?

I think that even without score restrictions, the highest point exchange should be 40 points. skills are supposed to slowly change over time, so 40 points are enough.
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Re: Minimum rank to join games option

Postby OliverFA on Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:28 pm

Oh and I forgot. Making it an option available only for Premium Members is a very good idea, and would provide an additional reason to pay.
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Re: Add Rank to Game Finder Searches

Postby yeti_c on Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:32 am

cicero wrote:We like suggestion.
We want poll.

[We are having a moment.]


Are you speaking in the collective again Cic?

I've told you about your multiple personalities before!!

C.

PS - I like the suggestion!!
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Minimum percent of turns taken option.

Postby jonlen2000 on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:26 pm

My apologies if this has been discussed previously but I didn't find it with a few attempts at searching...

Concise description:
Allow game creators to set an option requiring players joining their game to have a minimum percentage of turns taken.

Specifics:
Perhaps this option would also be enabled to require that opponents have played at least a certain (fairly small) number of turns so that this percentage is more meaningful. I think the option would work fine - and maybe better - without this addition though. The Game Finder search should have a checkbox to the effect of "Only show games which I am eligible to join."

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
More devoted players would be able to play in games with only other devoted players, if they wish. Also, players would have an additional incentive not to miss turns, so that in the future they have more available games to join.
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Re: Minimum percent of turns taken option.

Postby GrimReaper. on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:50 pm

YES THANK YOU I ENDORSE THIS IDEA 100%

Why didnt i think of that ](*,)
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Rank Suggestion

Postby cpurcell on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:31 pm

I think that it would benefit players greatly if on the "start a game", and "game finder" buttons, there would be a checklist with all ranks posted, and players could block certain ranks from joining their games, or keep games with the specified rank of players from showing up when searching for games, by checking the boxes of the certain rank.
I believe that this will improve the site because players who are not interested in playing lower ranked players could block that rank of players from their game.
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Re: Rank Suggestion

Postby blakebowling on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:36 pm

cpurcell wrote:I think that it would benefit players greatly if on the "start a game", and "game finder" buttons, there would be a checklist with all ranks posted, and players could block certain ranks from joining their games, or keep games with the specified rank of players from showing up when searching for games, by checking the boxes of the certain rank.
I believe that this will improve the site because players who are not interested in playing lower ranked players could block that rank of players from their game.

Please fill out the form
form wrote:Concise description:
  • xxxxxxx

Specifics:
  • xxxxxxx

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • xxxxxxx (you can obviously delete this for bug reports)
  • xxxxxxx

AND, I think I saw this somewhere else (**goes to find thread**)
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Re: Rank Suggestion

Postby tubaman on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:09 pm

If this were implemented, I don't think there would be many games for lower ranked players to join. That's not really fair to them, they should be able to play whoever they want, regardless of their rank.
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Re: Rank Suggestion

Postby cpurcell on Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:55 am

tubaman wrote:If this were implemented, I don't think there would be many games for lower ranked players to join. That's not really fair to them, they should be able to play whoever they want, regardless of their rank.


I have noticed that the heirarchy of this site do tend to play only other extremely high ranked players anyway. All they do is pm each other and set up private games...
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Re: Rank Suggestion

Postby cpurcell on Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:57 am

blakebowling wrote:
cpurcell wrote:I think that it would benefit players greatly if on the "start a game", and "game finder" buttons, there would be a checklist with all ranks posted, and players could block certain ranks from joining their games, or keep games with the specified rank of players from showing up when searching for games, by checking the boxes of the certain rank.
I believe that this will improve the site because players who are not interested in playing lower ranked players could block that rank of players from their game.

Please fill out the form
form wrote:Concise description:
  • xxxxxxx

Specifics:
  • xxxxxxx

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • xxxxxxx (you can obviously delete this for bug reports)
  • xxxxxxx

AND, I think I saw this somewhere else (**goes to find thread**)


Uh, That is the consise description, there aren't any specifics, and I included how it would help the site in the consise description...
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Re: Rank/Score Limits for Joining Games *Rejected*

Postby dkdj98 on Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:00 pm

I wish this was something we had, at least if nothing else to filter out the new recruits! I've had several games with deadbeat ?'s and it gets very frustrating! For my purposes, I would like to have the option to filter out the ?'s when starting a game and nothing more. maybe instead of points based, it's based on games completed. I wish I had seen this in time to vote on it, it might have made a difference. Hopefully this will be revisited in the near future.
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Re: Rank/Score Limits for Joining Games *Rejected*

Postby Night Strike on Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:15 pm

Crap........necrobump.

You couldn't have seen this to vote in time because it's over 2 years old!!

If you want to avoid new recruits, join a game last or play private games. New recruits can't play team games, so you could play those too.
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Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby e_i_pi on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:00 am

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  • Ability to start Casual games that only premiums can join

Specifics:
  • Have an option in Start A Game that allows you to select Premium only when making Casual Games.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Multis can't stack these games to win
  • Banned players can't keep coming back as 1000 rating players, playing like 2500 rating players, and upsetting honest paying members by taking an undue amount of points
  • Unfortunately, does not fix the problem of people making multis to play games against themselves for points

I know this is a bold suggestion, likely to get shouted down by some. I'm suggesting it as an option, not mandatory like it is in Speed Games.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby blakebowling on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:05 am

actually, many of *manimal 's Multi's have been premium, so this doesn't stop him.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby e_i_pi on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:19 am

blakebowling wrote:actually, many of *manimal 's Multi's have been premium, so this doesn't stop him.


Admittedly, I thought of this after reading t-o-m's post, but there are other positive side-effects of it. I don't think it's a rock solid idea, but it's enough to generate some more community discussion about ways to combat the problem.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby blakebowling on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:21 am

e_i_pi wrote:
blakebowling wrote:actually, many of *manimal 's Multi's have been premium, so this doesn't stop him.


Admittedly, I thought of this after reading t-o-m's post, but there are other positive side-effects of it. I don't think it's a rock solid idea, but it's enough to generate some more community discussion about ways to combat the problem.

Not saying I didn't like the Idea, I was just thinking that some freemiums might not
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby e_i_pi on Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:47 am

blakebowling wrote:Not saying I didn't like the Idea, I was just thinking that some freemiums might not


Yeah I hear ya. Personally, I have nothing against freemiums. I was a freemium myself for all of, ooh, 2 weeks lol. This isn't an anti-freemium thing, just a recognition that the majority of multi behaviour that directly affects Premiums could be moderated by individual users who feel it is a problem.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby Diamonds14 on Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:27 pm

Personally, i think its a good idea.. because i think people like *manimal make up a low population of multis. Im not going to spend 25 dollars to get an account banned, but a lot of people would create a new account ina matter of seconds. So even though its not a 100% multi filter it would reduce the numbers and there would still be plenty of players to play against freemiums so thats not an issue either.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby reggie_mac on Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:05 pm

I think this is a great idea.

A freemium is more likely to miss turns/dead beat than a full paying member would (unless somehow it was to their tactical advantage)

There is nothing worse than having 3 turns of an assassin game then your target changes or the person trying to kill you changes.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby Night Strike on Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:20 pm

1. Create private games (it's a premium's privilege).

2. It's just going to make games fill slower if it's just freemium members in the game. This will discourage freemiums from purchasing premiums.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby Timminz on Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:11 pm

Night Strike wrote:1. Create private games (it's a premium's privilege).

2. It's just going to make games fill slower if it's just freemium members in the game. This will discourage freemiums from purchasing premiums.


Wouldn't it encourage the purchase of premium, since they would know that all the "good" games are premium only?
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby t-o-m on Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:18 pm

blakebowling wrote:actually, many of *manimal 's Multi's have been premium, so this doesn't stop him.

To be honest i dont think you can knock down an idea due to one person.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby blakebowling on Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:53 pm

t-o-m wrote:
blakebowling wrote:actually, many of *manimal 's Multi's have been premium, so this doesn't stop him.

To be honest i dont think you can knock down an idea due to one person.

well I was just using him as an example, but we don't have to worry about him now, as lack finally decided to do the right thing and permaban his ass.
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Re: Suggestion: Casual games - Premium only option

Postby reggie_mac on Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:08 pm

My understanding of this ..
e_i_pi wrote:Specifics:
  • Have an option in Start A Game that allows you to select Premium only when making Casual Games.


Is that as a premium member we have the option to choose to only play other premium members

It's not to stop the freemiums from playing, or a blanket, but gives us more choice for who we choose to play. and then it answers this question.

Timminz wrote:Wouldn't it encourage the purchase of premium, since they would know that all the "good" games are premium only?


Yes. I think it would.
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A RATING ADJUSTMENT FOR GAMES?

Postby AeroMate on Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:21 pm

Rating adjustments for games

:idea: Perhaps CC can create a rating adjustment that enables players to set a minimum/maximum score for the challengers... Thus, a Cook couldn't walk into a Major's if he/she put the adjustment to 1600 to 5000... I would appreciate it if this is possible, others members have wanted the same thing... Perhaps it can be an extra to Premium accounts??? :idea:
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