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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby jefjef on Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:07 pm

This has been suggested often and has a lot of CUSTOMER support but CC does not believe in rank segregation.

Heck we can't even keep freemiums, who a large % of are multi, out of our games.

Personally You should not be able to join a game vs an officer until you at least have a stripe.

But CC won't do it.
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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby TheForgivenOne on Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:11 pm

Private games my friends. Go into the Callout forums, and Set up a thread where only a certain rank can join. Ask them to PM you for the Password
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=471&t=47216
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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby stahrgazer on Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:53 pm

trevor33 wrote:i'm sure this has come up before, can you post a link to the thread if it has? thanks.

anyway i'd like to set my games when creating them so only certain ranks can join them, i'm sure it's not too much to ask. how many times have you created a game only for a couple of new users to come and play only a couple of turns then leave? or a clueless cooks who joined your game only to ruin it for everyone with some mindless play?

no offence to them but i only want to play people around my level (or greater) as they are usually much more enjoyable games.


Three ways..
1) as TFO pointed out, you can create private games and give out the password sparingly.
2) Reserve the game to opponents and check frequently in case an opponent declines so you can quickly reserve it to another opponent of your choice.
3) Foelist everyone under a certain rank. It's possible, though painstaking and must be kept up. It's technically legal as well; although those who've done it are frowned on or joked about by many members of the community.

p.s. it's been requested frequently, I'm not sure CC bothers linking all the same threads together anymore, but if you want an older thread where it's come up, just look in rejected suggestions.
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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby trevor33 on Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:53 pm

thanks for the replies, after 4 1/2 years that's what i figured. shame, it would make the site a lot better imo. i know there’s other ways like have been pointed out here but seriously who wants to go through all of that hassle when it could be sooo much easier?
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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby TheForgivenOne on Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:59 pm

Because CC does not like Rank Segregation. How would it make CC better? All of a sudden low ranks would be running out of games to join, because all the high ranks block them from their games.
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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby trevor33 on Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:17 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:Because CC does not like Rank Segregation. How would it make CC better? All of a sudden low ranks would be running out of games to join, because all the high ranks block them from their games.


i disagree, not all high rank players would block lower ranks, quite simply because then there wouldn't be enough high ranks to give them their desired game quota. personally i would allow 2 ranks below me to enter my games, if everyone did a similar thing it really wouldn't be a problem. plus there's always going to be enough guys who post games with no ranking segregation or quite simply guys with lower ranks trying to get games with people if a similar ability. so you can argue that it helps everyone...
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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby TheForgivenOne on Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:25 pm

Let me ask you this. How many majors and Colonels like to play against a cook? They gain what? 6 points for a win? And risk something like 50-60 points
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Re: enable only certain ranks to join new games

Postby TheForgivenOne on Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:27 pm

But as said before, and shown to you, this has been rejected numerous times, so i will be merging/moving this to Rejected
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Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Filter

Postby Tezu on Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:17 am

I know this has been proposed over and over, and rejected over and over again, but please, read the arguments in this thread.

Concise description:
  • Help newbies protect themselves against farmers and hostile comments by adding Rank/Point Filtering

Specifics/Details:
  • Add an option when creating games which defines the minimum and maximum rank a player must have to join that game.
  • Add the same option when searching for games to join.
  • Maybe add this option not so much as a restriction but as a proposal, so players know if they are welcome or not in a game, and can decide if they wanna join even if the other players don't want them there.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • When I first joined this site, I avoided joining games with lieutenants and above, sometimes I joined a game, and later, when it started, I discovered with horror that a high ranking player had joined the game. This could have been avoided with a rank filter which would have allowed me to see what kind of players would join.
  • The first few months I was part of this community I got involved in games with high ranked players, and messed up their games by making bad moves, this, of course, made them angry, and I received more than one hostile comment for those mistakes. Now, I find myself supporting if not making those kind of comments to new players. I know, rude players can be reported, but a rude hostile comment doesn't hurt as much as a polite one, and those can't be reported! So, why would we wanna expose new players to a situation that probably will make them leave the site for good? Like I've read somewhere in these forums, we can only make ONE first impression, why would we risk someone's first impression to be a hostile one?
  • There have been some reports about newb-farming because a player sets up a lot of games in a specific setting, and a lot of newbs join them. I was one of those players who got accused once... I used to set up games in Feudal for 4, 5 or 6 players, and a lot of newbs joined the 4 and 5 player ones, I got a warning and had to stop playing the 4 and 5 players games altogether, so I wouldn't be accused of farming. Those who play Feudal know that having an empty castle in the game, gives it a whole new dynamic, but I had to stop playing that specific setting. If I had been able to filter by rank, it wouldn't have been an issue.
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby Darwins_Bane on Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:07 pm

If i were a farmer I would have a field day with this setting if it were implemented.

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now that I have a few more mins to take a look at a sugg, here's why I disagree with it.
1. I personally feel that more high ranks will consistently target low ranks due to the fact that your sugg would make this easier.
2. It would be easier to farm
3. If you implement the join anyways button that would make it even easier to target low ranks.
4. There is already a limiting of NR's game options till they get some experience.
5. it would widen the rank segregation.

I would suggest if you are looking for games against a certain rank you post in the callouts forum.
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby Tezu on Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:32 pm

How will high ranks target lower ranks if they are prohibited to join their games?

Let's say I'm a cadet, so I'll set up a game in which the only ranks allowed are cooks through privates, how do you think a high ranking player is going to target me?
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby TheForgivenOne on Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:46 pm

Tezu wrote:How will high ranks target lower ranks if they are prohibited to join their games?

Let's say I'm a cadet, so I'll set up a game in which the only ranks allowed are cooks through privates, how do you think a high ranking player is going to target me?


Because high ranks will set games where only low ranks can join
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby Darwins_Bane on Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:45 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:Because high ranks will set games where only low ranks can join

+1

I just want to add that low ranks often like to join the games made by high ranks.
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby Tezu on Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:56 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:
Tezu wrote:How will high ranks target lower ranks if they are prohibited to join their games?

Let's say I'm a cadet, so I'll set up a game in which the only ranks allowed are cooks through privates, how do you think a high ranking player is going to target me?


Because high ranks will set games where only low ranks can join


Obviously the option of filtering I'm proposing has to be so that if I make a restriction, my rank has to be in that frame, otherwise I can't join my own game!!! Plus, there can be another restriction, If I make a game available for players 2 ranks below me, it has to be open for players 2 ranks above me... maybe not even sort it by rank, just make a filter where I can decide how many points apart from my own points the players joining have to be... for example, if I set it up so that players have to be at most 100 points apart from me, players with 100 points less and 100 more than me can join...
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:26 am

The reason this won't be done is that they believe if new recruits are less able to join games with high rankers, that means they are going to be playing with themselves more often. Games with new recruits are generally less enjoyable because they tend to deadbeat or suicide more often than experienced players. So new recruits would be less likely to stay and ultimately purchase premium because they would have a more negative experience by playing in games with more deadbeats like themselves. Along with the fact point segregation is bad. How are lower ranks supposed to learn if they can't find an open game against a higher rank? They will just keep learning bad strategies.
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