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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby TheForgivenOne on Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:38 pm

Daggerheart wrote:Thanks for the support. NOW it's time to address this issue to the owner! :-)


Just because 2 people agree with you, does not mean it's going to be forwarded.

But this is from a thread a week or two ago.

TheForgivenOne wrote:I did talk to a higher up power earlier, he says that they are aware of various rank limitation/restrictions, and that lack may look into the suggestion in some sort of form or iteration.


But, it's on the back burner of things to do, so you may not see it for quite a while.
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby Daggerheart on Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:01 pm

Ok, TheForgivenOne, then I put my trust in you... please get the leader guy to read my thread... that's the only thing I ask for...

Because... I know I took the bull by the horn this time... and actually I think you know it too...
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby hmsps on Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:59 pm

i really dont think that as a suggestions moderator you should be so dismissive, you will only hamper creativity. It will stop the likes of Crash22, alstergen and other famring pts off lower ranks if lower ranks dont want them to. An example of this in the last 2 weeks is that the lower rank has dropped the game due to the higher ranks joining such as a colonel and brig. It seems to me we are happy to call it farming when we could get money off these people but once they join we really don't give one.
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby hmsps on Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:04 pm

As a side note these 2 dropped the game when i joined before my partner took up the invite so these things will continue to happen until you do something about it. And just because only 2 people agree doesnt make it any less a valid suggestion
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby Queen_Herpes on Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:25 pm

I agree. Czech out my sug:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=102006
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This link is the best way to make new players feel welcome...

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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby Daggerheart on Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:07 am

hmsps wrote:As a side note these 2 dropped the game when i joined before my partner took up the invite so these things will continue to happen until you do something about it. And just because only 2 people agree doesnt make it any less a valid suggestion


Yes, this is a serious issue. We are talking about farming and a system that let you choose your opponents in matches that gives rating points... this is worse than the boxing federations.

The scoreboard is a bloody joke!

I tought this site was run by people with logic and brains?

I really like CC, and now it needs to take the step from good to superb...

I "demand" to talk to the owner of this site before I leave for good!
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby TheForgivenOne on Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:43 am

Well, lackattack does not accept PM's, he is currently on vacation, and as i said, they are considering a rank limitation/restriction. You seriously can't expect these kind of updates to happen overnight.
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby Daggerheart on Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:13 am

I really hope alot of you people out there make a comment to this post. This issue must be dealt with. Thanks.
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby MichelSableheart on Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:30 pm

To be honest, I really don't see the need for this suggestion. Coming from a mainly standard multiplayer experience, it's extremely rare that players are so outclassed that the enjoyment of the game suffers. Most of the time, playing vs. a higher rank is a good learning experience, and playing against lower ranks should give you a fun game.

The only reason I can see to limit the opponents you can play against to players of your own level is because you are concerned about losing too many points against lower ranked opponents. But frankly, that's part of the ELO like scoring system we use. It's necessary for the ranking to remain a good indicator of someone's abilities.
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby Daggerheart on Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:46 am

MichelSableheart wrote:To be honest, I really don't see the need for this suggestion. Coming from a mainly standard multiplayer experience, it's extremely rare that players are so outclassed that the enjoyment of the game suffers. Most of the time, playing vs. a higher rank is a good learning experience, and playing against lower ranks should give you a fun game.

The only reason I can see to limit the opponents you can play against to players of your own level is because you are concerned about losing too many points against lower ranked opponents. But frankly, that's part of the ELO like scoring system we use. It's necessary for the ranking to remain a good indicator of someone's abilities.



That's the main problem now, the scoreboard/ranking is not an good indicator of your abilities...

Several here have stated that a player who enjoy playing 8 player games is doing a very well job if he/she wins 30% of these matches... since the average win rate with 8 players are far less. But a 30% win rate against random rated opponents will kill your rating in no time. Many of the high rated players now (not all but many)... they play carefully selected games...

This is why CC is worse than the boxing federations:

1) You can select the players you want to your matches, RATED matches, by the invite system
2) You can foe players that you know will usually beat you, example: in "open" 1vs1 speed matches
3) Leave matches if certain players join
4) High ranked players team up with cooks with 500 points so that they win more points... who control the cook? the guy's brother probably!

In the boxing federation they can stall a boxer for a long, long time... but if that boxer performs ... they can't keep him from a title match forever...

I really want to return playing CC. I really hope this will be addressed this autumn.
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:52 pm

Givign players the option to segregate would be nice...
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=102006

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Starting A Game !!Rank!!

Postby SneakySheep on Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:58 pm

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Re: Starting A Game !!Rank!!

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:02 pm

Try searching through the forum. Already been suggested. Merging
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Re: The matchmaking and rating system

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:04 pm

After deliberation, i am merging this into Tezu's.
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Re: Let newbies protect temselves from farming with Rank Fil

Postby SneakySheep on Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:31 pm

its not about protecting newbs how many times do i have to make a game only to have it fill up with privates, cadets and cooks then have cooks suicide into me

i want to be able to make a world 2.1 game and have it fill up with some players that have a idea about risk

im not here to teach newbs how to play im here to play some good games of risk, i dont like to play risk if the games going to end by round 10 thats not risk its just plain gay

i understand that you think it might hurt new players joining but ffs use your brain make it sargents and above that still gives cooks a wide range of people to suicide into but lets people who want a good strategic game to play

if your not going to look after the players you have that PAY to play then wats the point n even having new people join once they get some games under there belt there just going to end up posting in this tread or make 1 like it

i love CC but i love a good game of risk more its not like you HAVE to have a ranking option when making a game thats y its called a option

sorry if i offended people but im sick of this world and its P.C bull sh*t be real
when your new at a game you dont join a game with elite players because of course your going to get owned
does World of warCraft let you raid a lvl 80 dungeon when your lvl 1? no you start small and work your way up :roll:
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