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Re: Make a rank barrier for game entry

Postby TotoroHat on Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:45 am

This topic comes up every month or so and gets rejected every time. Not sure why people continue to bring it up. I would say if people only play people of a similar rank then no lower players would have the opportunity gain rank by defeating them. If a box was to ever be created I would suggest that only one box be created and that it limit all people playing in that game to only those under a certain score say 1300 or something low. (you would have to be under 1300 yourself to click on that box... to prevent farming)!
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Re: Make a rank barrier for game entry

Postby Artimis on Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:43 am

*YAWN*
Another thread created that is redundant and repeats an identical suggestion already made in another thread. The OP could have avoided this with a couple of forum searches. The sensible advice is to make private games and only give passwords to respondents in callouts that meet your 'rank criteria'.

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Artimis wrote:This suggestion has already been made in a variety of reworded guises, to name but a few:

Choosing ranks that may enter your games?????
Set Rank Limits for starting games.
cap on ranks
Minimum rank to join games option
Limiting Experience level of players in a new game.
Score Limit for joining a game *previously rejected*

One of them has already been marked *previously rejected*, you guys really need to do a post search before making a suggestion. Otherwise you end up with epic duplication like this.
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Re: Make a rank barrier for game entry

Postby owenshooter on Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:29 pm

Artimis wrote:*YAWN*

go to callouts and play in ranked games... this has been suggested so many times, i can't even believe i am responding... artimis pretty much summed it up...-0
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Re: Make a rank barrier for game entry

Postby HardAttack on Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:10 pm

Joodoo wrote:since you're premium, just make private games and ask ppl to pm you if they want the password...
and I'm still against rank segregation, I like playing with any rank anytime...


but i dont, what s then ?
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Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby cowboyz on Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:32 am

Concise description:
    Add a button in the user panel that will block/foe all freemiums from joining my games. It will automatically unblock/unfoe them if they upgrade to premium membership.
    Also suggested adding other block features, such as allowing players to block other players using criteria such as ratings, rank, missed turns, comments, clan etc...

Specifics:
    This is a good thing and doesn't limit the ability of freemiums to test out the site. They can still play, but only vs other freemiums, AND members who don't want to block freemiums. A foe list is TOO time consuming to manually foe each category of player, adding this feature will only add a convenient way to do what could be otherwise be done manually.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • no more having noobs join my games just to ruin them while they stay an entire 2 weeks on CC before quitting.
  • no more having noobs get impatient with slow games and start shouting "SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!1!!" in game chat
  • keeps noobs and their noobyness away from me and others who don't like being noobed.
  • allows only paying noobs to bother people
  • more money for CC since these freemiums must upgrade to play with a wider selection of players
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Hornet95 on Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:44 am

cowboyz wrote:Concise description:
    Add a button in the user panel that will block/foe all freemiums from joining my games. It will automatically unblock/unfoe them if they upgrade to premium membership.



I could see blocking the '?'s from joining your games (as they are likely to deadbeat). But some of the freemiums are very loyal. I was a freemium for a long time and had an excellent record. Once you get past your first 5 or 10 games, you're typically hooked.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Halmir on Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:16 am

I like the idea, coupled with that modification. We've all suffered from freemiums joining our games then had them deadbeat even before they take a turn (well I've had it 3 times in the last couple of months that I can recall and a few times before then!). If there's a limiter that is removed once they've proved themselves (i.e completed 10 or 20 games without an auto deadbeat removal from a game, or lost the "?" rank etc) then this sounds fair & fine.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:39 am

Suggestion: Make it harder for the people who Lack needs to love this site and to pay him big bucks, to find precisely the game that they want to play.

Result: It'll probably lose more money than it'll make, so it ain't gonna get done.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby andy_is_awesome on Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:04 am

Not all fremiums are noobs, so it's not really fair.

I would like to see a block button however. For Example:
-Block players under 90% turns taken
-Block players under 4.0 rating
-Block players ranked ?
-Block players ranked cook
-Block players tagged suicider

In the mean time the solution is to set up private games and spam PM other CC players to get a game going (VERY INEFFECTIVE!)
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby cowboyz on Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:24 am

andy_is_awesome wrote:Not all fremiums are noobs, so it's not really fair.

I would like to see a block button however. For Example:
-Block players under 90% turns taken
-Block players under 4.0 rating
-Block players ranked ?
-Block players ranked cook
-Block players tagged suicider

In the mean time the solution is to set up private games and spam PM other CC players to get a game going (VERY INEFFECTIVE!)


I don't see it being not fair. It just makes it easier for me to filter out people who I don't wish to play with. Maybe there could be an exception list.

And as far as other block options, such as cooks, people ranked under a certain score....I'm def for that as well. :D
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Thezzaruz on Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:58 am

cowboyz wrote:It just makes it easier for me to filter out people who I don't wish to play with.


CC has been quite clear on their stance here, if you want to have a say about who you play with then use private games or the foe list.

The only block I'm really interested in would be weeding out players with really low attendance %.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby cowboyz on Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:57 am

Thezzaruz wrote:
cowboyz wrote:It just makes it easier for me to filter out people who I don't wish to play with.


CC has been quite clear on their stance here, if you want to have a say about who you play with then use private games or the foe list.

The only block I'm really interested in would be weeding out players with really low attendance %.


Private games only allows me to choose who I want to play with, not who I DONT want to play with. It limits me way more than this option.
I don't want to continue playing the same people over and over again, yet I don't want to keep playing noobs. There are plenty of people in between who I would love to play with but haven't had the chance yet. Private games as an only option is too limited for this.

The Foe list? Sure I don't mind that idea. But to have to manually foe every freemium (which I could do) or to manually foe every cook (again can be done), takes way too much time. This isn't adding anything new, just adding a convenience to a paying subscriber.

It would be great to have the option to not just block feemiums, but possibly block by other factors as well (rank, rating, comments, games missed, clan etc..)
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Night Strike on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:01 pm

Just curious, why would you want lack to spend time coding something that keeps people from playing games rather than coding new options that would enhance the game play?
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:10 pm

Night Strike wrote:Just curious, why would you want lack to spend time coding something that keeps people from playing games rather than coding new options that would enhance the game play?

DM and Night Strike agree.


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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby cowboyz on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:12 pm

Night Strike wrote:Just curious, why would you want lack to spend time coding something that keeps people from playing games rather than coding new options that would enhance the game play?


But it does enhance game play. It enhances the game experience for many PREMIUM who spend money on this site by allowing them to filter out who and who not to play with, thus enhancing their games. The advanced filter options help freemium as well. As stated, the foe list can achieve some of this, but is inadequate to filter/block some categories, and too time consuming to block the others.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby MeDeFe on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:49 pm

This may possibly be the worst suggestion ever. At least I can recall a worse one off the top of my head.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Ray Rider on Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:56 pm

Hornet95 wrote:I could see blocking the '?'s from joining your games (as they are likely to deadbeat). But some of the freemiums are very loyal. I was a freemium for a long time and had an excellent record. Once you get past your first 5 or 10 games, you're typically hooked.

andy_is_awesome wrote:Not all fremiums are noobs, so it's not really fair.

I would like to see a block button however. For Example:
-Block players under 90% turns taken
-Block players under 4.0 rating
-Block players ranked ?
-Block players ranked cook
-Block players tagged suicider

In the mean time the solution is to set up private games and spam PM other CC players to get a game going (VERY INEFFECTIVE!)

I agree; to block those with a low turn percentage, low rating, or possibly low score makes sense, but it would be unfair to block all freemiums. There are noob premiums just like there are noob freemiums.

I've been a member of this site for about two years, played about 250 games, posted 468 times (200 in the main forum), have 100% turns taken percentage, and a rating of 4.8. I don't see why I should be blocked on account of some annoying freemiums who deadbeat or complain a lot.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby redhawk92 on Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:28 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:
Night Strike wrote:Just curious, why would you want lack to spend time coding something that keeps people from playing games rather than coding new options that would enhance the game play?

DM and Night Strike agree.


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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Halmir on Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:06 pm

Night Strike wrote:Just curious, why would you want lack to spend time coding something that keeps people from playing games rather than coding new options that would enhance the game play?


1) The chance of any suggestion being picked up and acted on is remote at best, sadly....

2) by giving the paying players what they want, it's far more likely that they will renew and keep on playing, supporting the site. What is being suggested is a sensible option to keep out freemiums from a small number of games - not many people will use this regularly, but many people might use this occasionally. If u keep ur paying customers happy, they will keep paying and playing.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Thezzaruz on Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:21 pm

cowboyz wrote:Private games only allows me to choose who I want to play with, not who I DONT want to play with. It limits me way more than this option.


Finally you got it...
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:10 pm

cowboyz wrote:Concise description:
    Add a button in the user panel that will block/foe all freemiums from joining my games. It will automatically unblock/unfoe them if they upgrade to premium membership.
    Also suggested adding other block features, such as allowing players to block other players using criteria such as ratings, rank, missed turns, comments, clan etc...
Specifics:
    This is a good thing and doesn't limit the ability of freemiums to test out the site. They can still play, but only vs other freemiums, AND members who don't want to block freemiums. A foe list is TOO time consuming to manually foe each category of player, adding this feature will only add a convenient way to do what could be otherwise be done manually.
This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • no more having noobs join my games just to ruin them while they stay an entire 2 weeks on CC before quitting.
  • no more having noobs get impatient with slow games and start shouting "SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!1!!" in game chat
  • keeps noobs and their noobyness away from me and others who don't like being noobed.
  • allows only paying noobs to bother people
  • more money for CC since these freemiums must upgrade to play with a wider selection of players


"Freemium" does not in any way indicate "noob".
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby cowboyz on Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:20 pm

YoursFalsey wrote:I was thinking more about Mr. Adams suggestion. A newbie quota still seems like a bad idea, but how about a Semi-Private setting? A Public game would be open to anyone. Private would be open only to those invited. Semi-Private (or Semi-Public) games would serve as public games but only to those who met a condition set by the game starting player: certain rank or higher, rank w/in so many points of the starting player, attendance of x% or higher, or premium only. To players who didn't qualify, the game would not even show up on the game finder list. I don't know- this may still be too exclusionary, but it would allow the game starter to be the excluder, rather than stating all games have a newbie quota.


Above posted in following thread
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=90699


Woodruff wrote:
cowboyz wrote:Concise description:
    Add a button in the user panel that will block/foe all freemiums from joining my games. It will automatically unblock/unfoe them if they upgrade to premium membership.
    Also suggested adding other block features, such as allowing players to block other players using criteria such as ratings, rank, missed turns, comments, clan etc...
Specifics:
    This is a good thing and doesn't limit the ability of freemiums to test out the site. They can still play, but only vs other freemiums, AND members who don't want to block freemiums. A foe list is TOO time consuming to manually foe each category of player, adding this feature will only add a convenient way to do what could be otherwise be done manually.
This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • no more having noobs join my games just to ruin them while they stay an entire 2 weeks on CC before quitting.
  • no more having noobs get impatient with slow games and start shouting "SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!1!!" in game chat
  • keeps noobs and their noobyness away from me and others who don't like being noobed.
  • allows only paying noobs to bother people
  • more money for CC since these freemiums must upgrade to play with a wider selection of players


"Freemium" does not in any way indicate "noob".


Awesome, that's your opinion and you don't have to use the block feature.
But you "probably" should stop "using" quotes all over the "place". It's "annoying".
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:56 pm

cowboyz wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
cowboyz wrote:Concise description:
    Add a button in the user panel that will block/foe all freemiums from joining my games. It will automatically unblock/unfoe them if they upgrade to premium membership.
    Also suggested adding other block features, such as allowing players to block other players using criteria such as ratings, rank, missed turns, comments, clan etc...
Specifics:
    This is a good thing and doesn't limit the ability of freemiums to test out the site. They can still play, but only vs other freemiums, AND members who don't want to block freemiums. A foe list is TOO time consuming to manually foe each category of player, adding this feature will only add a convenient way to do what could be otherwise be done manually.
This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • no more having noobs join my games just to ruin them while they stay an entire 2 weeks on CC before quitting.
  • no more having noobs get impatient with slow games and start shouting "SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!1!!" in game chat
  • keeps noobs and their noobyness away from me and others who don't like being noobed.
  • allows only paying noobs to bother people
  • more money for CC since these freemiums must upgrade to play with a wider selection of players


"Freemium" does not in any way indicate "noob".


Awesome, that's your opinion and you don't have to use the block feature.


It's NOT just my opinion. It is a fact. There are MANY, MANY freemiums on this site that can't in any way be regarded as noobs.

cowboyz wrote:But you "probably" should stop "using" quotes all over the "place". It's "annoying".


This, on the other hand, IS just an opinion.
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Thezzaruz on Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:16 pm

Woodruff wrote:
cowboyz wrote:But you "probably" should stop "using" quotes all over the "place". It's "annoying".


This, on the other hand, IS just an opinion.


Can't be sure though. Clearly couldn't understand the concept of quotes so assuming he understands opinions is a bit of a leap tbf. ;)
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Re: Suggestion: "Block Freemium" option

Postby Woodruff on Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:53 pm

Thezzaruz wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
cowboyz wrote:But you "probably" should stop "using" quotes all over the "place". It's "annoying".


This, on the other hand, IS just an opinion.


Can't be sure though. Clearly couldn't understand the concept of quotes so assuming he understands opinions is a bit of a leap tbf. ;)


Be quiet, you freemium noob. <laughing>
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