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Take Back Move (Rejected)

Postby choochie777 on Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:41 pm

Why can't there be a button to take back a move if you made a mistake and it is still your turn?
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Re: Take Back Move

Postby Darwins_Bane on Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:49 pm

because it would be abused beyond all belief....especially in freestyle. All i can say is be very careful when making moves.
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Re: Take Back Move

Postby cachejob on Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:50 pm

like if you accidentally attack and lose 0-6 you could take it back? :-k i foresee a lot of accidents
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Re: Take Back Move

Postby danes on Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:52 pm

cachejob wrote:like if you accidentally attack and lose 0-6 you could take it back? :-k


You mean my 5 didn't kill your 10 to break your bonus? I get another try!
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Re: Take Back Move

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:55 pm

Sorry, not going to happen. Would be abused, and totally ruin freestyle. Moving to Rejected
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"Back to Attack" Button *Rejected*

Postby cozzy on Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:17 am

Concise description:
  • Have you ever prematurely selected to "End Assaults"- whether it was because of being distracted, a sensitive touchpad on your laptop, a mis-pointing of the mouse while navigating around the close proximity of the other buttons or a quick realization after the fact of "s**t!- I forgot to..."?

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  • A new button to "Return to Assault" mode when in the "Reinforcement mode". This option would only be available before making any reinforcements- once a single reinforcement is made it's too late to return to attacking. The "turn time" does not reset upon returning.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Part of this game is capitalizing on an opponents mistake but if the mistake is solely based on a premature click of a button or a "misfire" as opposed to a strategical error, I think a return option would not only bolster the integrity of the game being played but also sometimes "let you sleep better at night!"...lol
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Re: "Back to Attack" Button

Postby TheForgivenOne on Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:53 pm

This has been suggested many times before. This would royally screw over many Freestyle games. All we can say is, be more careful.
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Re: "Back to Attack" Button

Postby RedRing on Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:34 pm

Nah, Although this would have helped me out many times, in the real world, you can't time travel. Just like in Chess and Checkers, once you take your hand off of the piece, your move is over.

I feel your pain, but it's no one's fault but ourselves.
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Re: "Back to Attack" Button

Postby JoshyBoy on Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:00 am

Similar suggestions have been proposed and rejected multiple times.
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The Undo Button

Postby c224! on Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:54 am

First off let me say, that im sorry if someone else has already posted this.

Have you ever been in a freestyle game, that requires fast movement, and sometimes you click the wrong button? Well that has happened to me alot recently, in freestyle, speed, or just regular. I've clicked the end assaults button all the time by accident, and that totally screws up my turn, and possibly gives my opponent the opportunity to hit me and take advantage or my mistake. This new button would simpily fix those mistakes, but you couldnt use it to take away an assualt you just did, it would only help if you already ended assaults.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby Joodoo on Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:55 am

Too easily abused and therefore, will be rejected.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby drunkmonkey on Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:00 am

How could that be abused? He's not asking to undo assaults. Once you're in reinforcement phase (but before making reinforcements), a way to go back to assaults.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby c224! on Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:35 pm

Yea, the undo button would only help after you ended assaults and before you forted a territory. Other risk websites that i've been to have this and it seems to work very well.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby Darwins_Bane on Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:36 pm

and that pesky thing called searching. you aren't sorry if you didnt search. its there. the reason it doesnt work is freestyle. simply, o, im not done attacking, im gonna go eliminate someone now. just pay attention to what you're doing and be careful.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby amazzony on Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:58 am

Undo ain't in the spirit of strategy games :lol:

Seriously though, I think the abuse factor is way too huge here. An alternative would be to use a confirmation button ("you sure you want to end your attack?") though I'm not sure it would be very useful because most people (who would use that option) would just click "yes" and later start thinking about what the hell they agreed with.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby Woltato on Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:51 pm

I think this is a good idea.

After clicking end assaults have a button for "continue assaults" when in the reinforcements screen. Make this button only available before any reinforcements have been made.

This would enable you to go back a step and carry on with assaults and just means that pressing "end assaults" by accident isn't a fatal mistake. I can't see any scope for abuse freestyle or not.

I think having "Are you sure [YES] [NO]" pop up everytime "end assaults" is clicked would get very annoying.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:45 pm

Woltato wrote:I think this is a good idea.

After clicking end assaults have a button for "continue assaults" when in the reinforcements screen. Make this button only available before any reinforcements have been made.

This would enable you to go back a step and carry on with assaults and just means that pressing "end assaults" by accident isn't a fatal mistake. I can't see any scope for abuse freestyle or not.

I think having "Are you sure [YES] [NO]" pop up everytime "end assaults" is clicked would get very annoying.


Really? Someone hits end assaults in Freestyle, intending to reinforce. Then someone breaks your bonus. You now get to Go back to assaults and retake you're bonus. Someone is going for an elimination, you come out of Reinforcements to steal the kill.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby MichelSableheart on Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:51 am

@TFO: but wouldn't the effect be the same as when the player hadn't clicked end assaults, but just waited? It doesn't show up in the log when a player ends assaults, only when he makes his first reinforcement. After which the button wouldn't be available anymore.
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby Woltato on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:14 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:
Woltato wrote:I think this is a good idea.

After clicking end assaults have a button for "continue assaults" when in the reinforcements screen. Make this button only available before any reinforcements have been made.

This would enable you to go back a step and carry on with assaults and just means that pressing "end assaults" by accident isn't a fatal mistake. I can't see any scope for abuse freestyle or not.

I think having "Are you sure [YES] [NO]" pop up everytime "end assaults" is clicked would get very annoying.


Really? Someone hits end assaults in Freestyle, intending to reinforce. Then someone breaks your bonus. You now get to Go back to assaults and retake you're bonus. Someone is going for an elimination, you come out of Reinforcements to steal the kill.


Surely you can do this already by just sitting and waiting and not pressing end assaults?
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Re: The Undo Button

Postby Qwert on Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:25 am

If these whas possible,then britains will save many lives in battle of somme.
Freestyle or not, you have plenty time to play carefull, not to move wrong moves fast. If you can not do that,then play no frestyle games.
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The Undo Button or Take Back Move Button

Postby Queen_Herpes on Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:21 am

I was going to post the subject line suggestion, but I see these following suggestions already in suggs forum. Some have been rejected. Some are still in suggestions. They all talk about the same thing. If possible, could they be merged into one topic?

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And please merge this topic in with those.

For the record, I support a limited undo button to be used in sequential games only (per the obvious problems it can bring about in freestyle) and does not allow a player to take back a fortification move, does not allow a player to take back an attack. Simply put: Allows a player to undo clicking on the "end assaults" button. Lets them go back to attacking - only in sequential games.
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Re: The Undo Button or Take Back Move Button

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:26 am

I support this. Given that it's only for Sequential games and that (I imagine) it would only be able to be used before you fortify anything, it seems reasonable, and I don't see how it could be abused.
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Re: The Undo Button or Take Back Move Button

Postby natty dread on Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:20 am

Allows a player to undo clicking on the "end assaults"


If it is only limited to the "end assaults" button, then I support this suggestion.
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Re: The Undo Button or Take Back Move Button

Postby TheForgivenOne on Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:04 am

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Re: The Undo Button or Take Back Move Button

Postby Queen_Herpes on Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:06 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:I support this. Given that it's only for Sequential games and that (I imagine) it would only be able to be used before you fortify anything, it seems reasonable, and I don't see how it could be abused.


I agree, obviously, and thank you to TFO for bringing all of these suggestions together in one. There seems to be a lot of long standing support for this. Sticky?
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