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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby scutzer on Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:17 pm

I can see both sides, and play other sites that allow this option. Implemented correctly it does work. I might be nice to try it out on 1v1 games to see if it would be useful there and/or when you get down to 1v1 players in a individual/team game.

I assume that this is not wanted since it can give a player an unfair advantage by not having to battle someone, but if there are only 2 people or teams left there is no hard in allowing a surrender. Has this variation on the theme been discussed. If so, I'd love to know the reason why it was rejected. Surely this is an easy feature to implement.
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:48 pm

scutzer wrote:I can see both sides, and play other sites that allow this option. Implemented correctly it does work. I might be nice to try it out on 1v1 games to see if it would be useful there and/or when you get down to 1v1 players in a individual/team game.

I assume that this is not wanted since it can give a player an unfair advantage by not having to battle someone, but if there are only 2 people or teams left there is no hard in allowing a surrender. Has this variation on the theme been discussed. If so, I'd love to know the reason why it was rejected. Surely this is an easy feature to implement.


The idea has been, if you can surrender with only two players in a game, then multis will make a bunch of games against each other and just surrender for really easy points, or something like that.
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby Kaskavel on Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:12 pm

SirSebstar wrote:it HAS been abused in the past, heavely abused. I can think of various ways it can be abuse in this day and age.
Trust me, there is no way this suggestion can ever work without heavy monitoring.
and also, suppose you are in that KC2 game, and the power goes out for the other guy. bazinga, you win...

but yea, pro tip, do not play trench in hives


Hive still needs a resign button even without the trench setting.
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby chapcrap on Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:01 pm

MERGED an old surrender thread I found.
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:00 am

chapcrap wrote:MERGED an old surrender thread I found.


Congrats on getting us up to 100 pages :)
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Need a Forfeit Button

Postby jeffbroomhead on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:47 pm

This will help provide a gentlemanly way to concede when it's obvious that we have lost and don't want to waste everyone's time by either throwing the game to one of the players or to force a 3-turn missed a turn exit.
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Re: Need a Forfeit Button

Postby greenoaks on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:15 pm

jeffbroomhead wrote:This will help provide a gentlemanly way to concede when it's obvious that we have lost and don't want to waste everyone's time by either throwing the game to one of the players or to force a 3-turn missed a turn exit.

you need to become friends with 'search' ;)
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:36 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
chapcrap wrote:MERGED an old surrender thread I found.


Congrats on getting us up to 100 pages :)

Thanks. Just got another one MERGED.


jeffbroomhead wrote:This will help provide a gentlemanly way to concede when it's obvious that we have lost and don't want to waste everyone's time by either throwing the game to one of the players or to force a 3-turn missed a turn exit.

Jeff, this has been rejected before because people can abuse the surrender option to give someone else a lot of points.
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Forfeit Button

Postby qwertylpc on Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:48 am

Concise description:
  • When a player doesn't have a chance in a game, they will surrender, kind of like chess, knocking over your king.

Specifics/Details:
  • When a player doesn't have a chance in a game, they will surrender.
  • It will be for standard games (it could cause huge problems with terminator and assassin, team games can be discussed below)
  • If it were implemented for team games, then all members of the team would have to agree.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • I understand some people say this will be abused, but with trench, it is now more important than ever especially on a large map.
  • Maybe limit it to after 10 rounds this button will work
  • Maybe only limit it to 1v1 because it could significantly alter a 3 player game.

You can select 2 poll options, because 1 is the type of game it would be in, and the other deals with the trench settings
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Re: Forfeit Button

Postby Seulessliathan on Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:03 pm

search is your friend ;)
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby chapcrap on Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:27 pm

MERGED this one.

qwertylpc wrote:Concise description:
  • When a player doesn't have a chance in a game, they will surrender, kind of like chess, knocking over your king.

Specifics/Details:
  • When a player doesn't have a chance in a game, they will surrender.
  • It will be for standard games (it could cause huge problems with terminator and assassin, team games can be discussed below)
  • If it were implemented for team games, then all members of the team would have to agree.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • I understand some people say this will be abused, but with trench, it is now more important than ever especially on a large map.
  • Maybe limit it to after 10 rounds this button will work
  • Maybe only limit it to 1v1 because it could significantly alter a 3 player game.

You can select 2 poll options, because 1 is the type of game it would be in, and the other deals with the trench settings
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby Melkor52 on Wed May 22, 2013 7:31 pm

I have a suggestion on the Surrender button topic. Perhaps it was suggested in the 100 pages that I didn't read, and sorry if it was. But why not make the Surrender Button an option on the side stats for each player. When clicked (you should be able to toggle it off or on), it means you realize that the game is beyond hope and are willing to surrender. It would only work if everyone but one player (the winner) also clicked their surrender button as well.

This way no one could abuse the thing, and no one would gain an advantage due to a single player leaving the game. It's only use would be to end a game that everyone is ready to concede as lost. I personally like trench games, but sometimes it can be tedious to play out a game that has already been decided but will take another week to finish because of slow movement on a large map.

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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue May 28, 2013 6:31 pm

Melkor52 wrote:I have a suggestion on the Surrender button topic. Perhaps it was suggested in the 100 pages that I didn't read, and sorry if it was. But why not make the Surrender Button an option on the side stats for each player. When clicked (you should be able to toggle it off or on), it means you realize that the game is beyond hope and are willing to surrender. It would only work if everyone but one player (the winner) also clicked their surrender button as well.


An example of why this doesn't solve the abuse problem is that you could just have two friends join up a game together in a 1v1, and have one of them click surrender to intentionally give the other points.
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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby Melkor52 on Tue May 28, 2013 6:50 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Melkor52 wrote:I have a suggestion on the Surrender button topic. Perhaps it was suggested in the 100 pages that I didn't read, and sorry if it was. But why not make the Surrender Button an option on the side stats for each player. When clicked (you should be able to toggle it off or on), it means you realize that the game is beyond hope and are willing to surrender. It would only work if everyone but one player (the winner) also clicked their surrender button as well.


An example of why this doesn't solve the abuse problem is that you could just have two friends join up a game together in a 1v1, and have one of them click surrender to intentionally give the other points.



True that, but if that was someone's goal they need only start a game and deadbeat for the other. But I do see your point. Perhaps, the surrender option would only show up after 10 or 15 rounds to avoid the abuse, or say five days. Then just dead beating would have been quicker and easier.

Well anyway, I'm not going to flog a dead horse. I would just like to have had a way to finish up a large trench game when the outcome is unquestioned. So I just threw in my two cents to see if it would have helped. Thanks for your time and effort in helping to improve the site.

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Re: Surrender/Resign/Forfeit Button [Rejected]

Postby SirSebstar on Wed May 29, 2013 4:43 am

lack of the surrender button makes no game for certain until it ends. a player could go missing for 3 days and give your the win........
and you would miss out if you had already surrendered....
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