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Would you like to see an unranked option when creating games?

Yes
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No
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Dont care
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Postby areyouincahoots on Mon May 01, 2006 2:57 pm

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee
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Postby johnnyrotten on Mon May 01, 2006 2:58 pm

Do you want to put that to the test then?
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Postby areyouincahoots on Mon May 01, 2006 3:00 pm

let's go
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Postby johnnyrotten on Mon May 01, 2006 3:02 pm

Can't actually do it right now, 2 of my games are sequentials, so they'll take forever, and the other 2 i'm waiting for one person in each to take their turn... :roll:
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Postby areyouincahoots on Mon May 01, 2006 3:05 pm

that's lame...lol
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Postby johnnyrotten on Mon May 01, 2006 3:07 pm

I know... amandahugandkiss, drummerpcr, DIXIE, if you're reading this; don't read this! Take your turn!
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"Friendly" Games

Postby AK_iceman on Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:01 pm

Got one that hasn't been suggested yet. :D

Would it be possible to set up a friendly game here, where no points would be at risk?

I know many people are complaining about the scoreboard right now, and this would be a way to keep both sides happy. If you dont like the way the scores work, then play only "ranked" games with people you choose, and start public "friendly" games where no points would be at risk.

As always, this could be subjest to abuse, and might lead to even further inflation of points on the scoreboard.

Also, there tends to be a lot of fighting in the forums about who is the better player. But then someone always chickens out because he would lose more points than the other guy and it wouldn't be fair. So, why not start a "friendly" game with a neutral 3rd party and duke it out for the bragging rights?

I tried to argue both sides of this, but please give some feedback.
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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:03 pm

i like it
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:04 pm

A while ago, an Unranked Games Option was discussed, but Lack filed it under Rejected. But perhaps you can get some sway and momentum here.


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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:05 pm

srry bout the double post, when i reply to a topic, it takes forever. usually a double click fixes this, but now it's just double replying
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Postby AK_iceman on Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:05 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:A while ago, an Unranked Games Option was discussed, but Lack filed it under Rejected. But perhaps you can get some sway and momentum here.


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Damn, I thought I had one. :cry:
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Postby fore on Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:26 am

Where do you learn the game then?
Where do you learn the game interface?

When it comes to rating. Rated players benefit too much from playing against newcommers that do not know the game and/or GUI. A solution could be that newcomers get their first rating after x number of games. Thereafter ratings should be recalculated or a more easy approach. Games against unrated players are unrated but used to calculate the newcomers rating after x games. Using the technical easy approach will drive new users to the site and drive rated players to play against newcomers since they have a play4fun option.

This has been written without even playing a single game!
(Where should I learn the game)
Maybe I am misunderstanding/mixing up rating and ranking?
(In chess we use ratings)
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Practice Arena

Postby AAFitz on Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:16 pm

I would love an area i could go and play much lower ranks...or much higher just for fun

win lose...no change in score...cheating is irrelevant for the most part

i can play my dad in 30 games at a time, and not care...

generals can play their favorite or most persistant noobie without shelling out 100 points at a time

i imagine its some work, and im not complaining how its settup now, but It really would make those games just fun

and i know noobie section has been discussed, and im sure it could be integrated with this...
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Postby wcaclimbing on Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:45 pm

that is a great idea!
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Postby nyg5680 on Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:45 pm

not a bad idea but would prob take up a lot of space
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Postby Evil Semp on Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:59 pm

Then why not just eliminate the point system all together? That would take care of some people creating multi accounts for points.

If protecting the points are that important only play higher ranked players. Why should lower ranked players be expected to support a system that is in favor of higher ranked players. If the system was ok when higher ranked players were climbing the ranks why is it considered broken now?

I don't like to lose any more than the next person but lets just play the game. I start a public games and let anyone join, if they are new and I lose good for them.

Lets play the game for fun.
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Postby nyg5680 on Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:01 pm

^^^ he makes a rly good arguement
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Postby joeyjordison on Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:10 pm

nah points should stay and i don't just say that coz i'm a major. a leaderboard is just natural for a site like this.

however i really like the idea no points games and hav voted for them before i think although i can't find the thread. it would b a simple option, just add points or no points played for option.

another thing that would b interestin that has been discussed before is stakes. u could stake 2 times the usual amount of points on a game or stake a straight 100 points. wat u think of that? personally i think it is unnescessary but just thought i would say as it lead on nicely
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Postby Evil Semp on Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:17 pm

joeyjordison I see you are doing a good job of protecting your points right now.

Why is a new player not worth risking your points? If the higher ranking players are ranked that high because of their skill what are they afraid of?

Don't new players deserve the same chance to advance as you did?
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Postby AAFitz on Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:27 pm

you do have a point

however, some people want rank, we will all know what the rank signifies...we can look at the games and know how they got the rank, so one major can be ten times as good as another...so the rank is somewhat arbitrary

for example...my rank is currently higher than firesides...fireside plays tons of games that are risky for points, but he beats me every time....i havent played him a lot, but he is clearly my better right now...so im not fooling anyone...

if i go play 200 practice games and lose every one...then play one 6 player and win, my score goes up 100 points...but...you can check my games to see that its not 100 percent accurate

but who cares...im not fooling anyone ...if i want points i risk them...if i dont...i can just play for fun

there is a downside and there will always be complaints....general one...lost 100 private games, and won 5 regular this month...but who cares...if i stay at home and play 100 games on the board, and ask lack for 1000 points he will probably say no....if not let me know lack

i propose the practice arena, and will donate another premium payment to help...its not much...but its a start...and i respect those who put their money where their mouth is...
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Postby Telvannia on Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:07 am

i think you add an option to the game
points or no points
that give you a way to play around with risking points and if their are no points at risk in these games multis wont join them giving us multi-free games
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Postby AK_iceman on Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:39 am

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Postby max is gr8 on Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:40 am

I still think it's a good Idea but we play the game for fun so :roll: Rank doesn't matter.

Then It means I can play FP without losing 6 points a match actually it's gone down to 5 lol
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Postby AAFitz on Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:18 pm

sorry for brining it up again...i searched but didnt find it, but I still do happen to love the idea

but i have no problems with the way it is...but man i would love it

i would instantly set up 30 games with my dad, and have a blast

wouldnt care about getting accused of cheating, losing hundreds of points...just focused on well...killing my dads little numbers....

its amazing how fun that is
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Postby dugcarr1 on Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:55 pm

great idea bud....


WE NEED A FUCKING CHANGE... i herd the bosses have somthing in the works,,,, what is it guys?,,,, im kinda getting a chub thinking about it
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