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Re: Betting on matches

Postby The Neon Peon on Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:34 am

CC is a non-gambling community and does not want to be related to gambling in any way.

If you want to go around wasting money I would suggest playing the lottery, or giving money to random people you find, which would be a better use for them.
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Re: Betting on matches

Postby Inhuman14 on Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:09 pm

If you read the forum guidelines you'd see that that is one of the few things that they ban here on the forums. If you want to bet on the games outside of the community, well, your life is your life, but CC will never endorse you in any way. Sorry.
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Re: Betting on matches

Postby amos_trask on Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:38 pm

Ahhhh maybe one for the scrapheap then..... just a thought....
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Re: Betting on matches

Postby Inhuman14 on Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:46 pm

Well, it wasn't an awful idea, but it's just against the mission of the site, you could say. Keep the thinking up. :-)
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Re: Betting on matches

Postby The Neon Peon on Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:19 pm

The problem with gambling on CC is that it raises a whole lot of issues for CC, and gives no benefits.

1. This will raise cheating a ton. Bet on a game, and cheat at it. You earn money.
2. This will raise a whole lot of complaints. Dice, secret alliances, people are going to want their points back etc.
3. This increases farming of the low ranked. Okay, a colonel is gambing $50 on a 1v1, a cook is also gambling $50 on the same map and settings... who's game do I join?
4. Legal issues.
5. The site will become even more unpleasant. None of us like to lose. We especially do not like to lose to dice. Now imaging losing a lot of money to dice...

Now, what are the benefits?
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Re: Betting on matches

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:59 pm

Betting or gambling on/through CC is prohibitted. As pointed out, there are more drawbacks than benefits too allow it. Thanks for the suggestion though. :)


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Re: Point Wagering... betting. -= a new system =-

Postby Kotaro on Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:06 pm

Do want betting and gambling.
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Re: Point Wagering... betting. -= a new system =-

Postby Night Strike on Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:19 pm

Kotaro wrote:Do want betting and gambling.


Thank you for the VERY informative bump. :roll:
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Re: Point Wagering... betting. -= a new system =-

Postby Kotaro on Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:04 am

Night Strike wrote:
Kotaro wrote:Do want betting and gambling.


Thank you for the VERY informative bump. :roll:


Thanks for your very rude troll. Seems like you can't follow your own forum rules, unless trolling is OK when done by mods? High five for setting a good example.

This idea will be no more abused then the multi problem. Someone can easily make a multi these days and point dump; and it will be easy to limit the abuse done by this "gambling" system if there are simply limits put on the wagering limit.

edit: also, would teh idea of betting on others games be possible?
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Re: Point Wagering... betting. -= a new system =-

Postby owenshooter on Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:01 pm

Kotaro wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Kotaro wrote:Do want betting and gambling.


Thank you for the VERY informative bump. :roll:


Thanks for your very rude troll. Seems like you can't follow your own forum rules, unless trolling is OK when done by mods? High five for setting a good example.

This idea will be no more abused then the multi problem. Someone can easily make a multi these days and point dump; and it will be easy to limit the abuse done by this "gambling" system if there are simply limits put on the wagering limit.

edit: also, would teh idea of betting on others games be possible?

um... Special K, you bumped a thread after 8 months, after a mod had made a definitive post about the subject, with "Do want betting and gambling." :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: an 8 month bump without anything added except a funny typo? really? and then you get abusive towards Night Strike for his pointing this out? sigh... i'm going to miss you when you are gone...-0
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Re: Point Wagering... betting. -= a new system =-

Postby Kotaro on Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:09 pm

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot! Trolling is OKAY if someone else posts in a way you don't like. My apologies.

So how about them <insert football team name here>?
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Point wager games

Postby groblerg on Sun May 09, 2010 4:15 pm

Concise description:
  • Instead of learning how many points your lost/earned once the game was over, suppose you knew it before hand.

Specifics:
  • When creating a new game, the creator will able to specify how many points he's "putting on the table" for the game, any entrant to the game must match the creators offer. Thus when the game starts, participants will know how many points they stand to win or lose.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • It will create a new type of game, a poker type game for that matter - were the creator will in effect wager the amount of points they are willing to risk. Games with high "entry fees" might cause some players to stay away from the game as they don't want to risk their points and it should also mean that players will not want to miss their turn as the risk might be too grave.
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Re: Point wager games

Postby army of nobunaga on Sun May 09, 2010 4:24 pm

i love the idea, but CC has a hard enough time regulating cheaters as it is... this is a can of worms that probably can not be opened.
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Re: Point wager games

Postby edwinissweet on Sun May 09, 2010 4:47 pm

As AoN said, i do not see this happening in CC, ever.

Its been rejected alot before
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Re: Point wager games

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun May 09, 2010 11:15 pm

This has been brought up many times, since the beginning of CC, one of the first suggestions made was to Wager points, but it has never been implemented, even getting the thumbs down from Lack himself.
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Betting your points

Postby dhud101 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:31 am

It would be cool if players could "bet" their points. They could not do this on every game. My thought was the following conditions ONLY:

2 Player
Private Game
"Bet" cannot exceed 10% of players points
Must have at least 500 points


This is just a thought. I sent this out to a few people and they seem to like the idea.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby blakebowling on Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:05 am

If this would happen, these are the restrictions I see feasible.
Max 100 Points per bet. (as it is the max points changed per game now)
Each player must bet the exact same amount
Players may only wage against each other so often (eg daily / weekly) to prevent abuse
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Re: Betting your points

Postby greenoaks on Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:13 am

this is not a gambling site.

move this to rejected like it has been every other time this has been suggested.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby jammyjames on Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:44 pm

I think it is a good idea, it enables players to play games for 1 point.. great for learning games and equalling play through the ranks.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby greenoaks on Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:22 pm

jammyjames wrote:I think it is a good idea, it enables players to play games for 1 point.. great for learning games and equalling play through the ranks.

great for farming too.

higher ranks playing for the same points as lower ranks even though their skill levels are not equal.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby dhud101 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:08 pm

Greenoaks...there is always going to be farming and other forms of cheating on CC. The benefits of "betting" far exceed the drawbacks.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:12 pm

dhud101 wrote:Greenoaks...there is always going to be farming and other forms of cheating on CC. The benefits of "betting" far exceed the drawbacks.


Yeah... and this just makes it way easier to farm.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:51 pm

dhud101 wrote:Greenoaks...there is always going to be farming and other forms of cheating on CC. The benefits of "betting" far exceed the drawbacks.


You don't even need to consider farming. The point is that one theme which we soundly reject in this forum, is any suggestion that basically makes it possible to play a map without risking the loss of points. This more or less enables exactly that.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:49 pm

What about amending it like this...

Regular points... Half points... Double Points.. Cap at 100. That way there is still risk when learning a map, but not as much risk.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby drake_259 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:54 pm

doodle assassin with x2 points nice way to burn your points :P
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