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Betting your points

Postby dhud101 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:31 am

It would be cool if players could "bet" their points. They could not do this on every game. My thought was the following conditions ONLY:

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"Bet" cannot exceed 10% of players points
Must have at least 500 points


This is just a thought. I sent this out to a few people and they seem to like the idea.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby blakebowling on Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:05 am

If this would happen, these are the restrictions I see feasible.
Max 100 Points per bet. (as it is the max points changed per game now)
Each player must bet the exact same amount
Players may only wage against each other so often (eg daily / weekly) to prevent abuse
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Re: Betting your points

Postby greenoaks on Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:13 am

this is not a gambling site.

move this to rejected like it has been every other time this has been suggested.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby jammyjames on Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:44 pm

I think it is a good idea, it enables players to play games for 1 point.. great for learning games and equalling play through the ranks.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby greenoaks on Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:22 pm

jammyjames wrote:I think it is a good idea, it enables players to play games for 1 point.. great for learning games and equalling play through the ranks.

great for farming too.

higher ranks playing for the same points as lower ranks even though their skill levels are not equal.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby dhud101 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:08 pm

Greenoaks...there is always going to be farming and other forms of cheating on CC. The benefits of "betting" far exceed the drawbacks.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:12 pm

dhud101 wrote:Greenoaks...there is always going to be farming and other forms of cheating on CC. The benefits of "betting" far exceed the drawbacks.


Yeah... and this just makes it way easier to farm.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:51 pm

dhud101 wrote:Greenoaks...there is always going to be farming and other forms of cheating on CC. The benefits of "betting" far exceed the drawbacks.


You don't even need to consider farming. The point is that one theme which we soundly reject in this forum, is any suggestion that basically makes it possible to play a map without risking the loss of points. This more or less enables exactly that.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:49 pm

What about amending it like this...

Regular points... Half points... Double Points.. Cap at 100. That way there is still risk when learning a map, but not as much risk.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby drake_259 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:54 pm

doodle assassin with x2 points nice way to burn your points :P
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Re: Betting your points

Postby blakebowling on Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:03 am

Bruceswar wrote:What about amending it like this...

Regular points... Half points... Double Points.. Cap at 100. That way there is still risk when learning a map, but not as much risk.

Feasible. I like it.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:07 am

If we're looking for a way to practice maps with little/no risk, then I still don't see why practice games haven't been implemented yet.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:14 am

drake_259 wrote:doodle assassin with x2 points nice way to burn your points :P



Or win points ... :D
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Re: Betting your points

Postby jammyjames on Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:26 am

you would end up getting the lucky kids that win 3 or so in a row sitting at colonel area! :lol:
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Augustus Maximus on Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:23 pm

This certainly isn't a feature that I would ever chose to use were it available.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby drunkmonkey on Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:27 am

Doesn't this defeat the entire purpose of the point system & score calculations? We'd be throwing the history of points out the window for a new "poker chips" system.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby greenoaks on Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:31 am

drunkmonkey wrote:Doesn't this defeat the entire purpose of the point system & score calculations? We'd be throwing the history of points out the window for a new "poker chips" system.

exactly
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Re: Betting your points

Postby 40kguy on Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:58 am

also really easy to point dump. so i think it would be nice but... reject it.
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Gillipig on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:10 am

This is actually one of the worst suggestions I've ever seen! Legalized farming would be taken to a new stratosphere if this was to be implemented (which it never will) ! You suggest an option were it would be possible for a cook and a general to risk the same amount of points in a 1v1? Your suggestion is basically to scratch CC as we know it!
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Re: Betting your points

Postby zimmah on Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:36 am

drake_259 wrote:doodle assassin with x2 points nice way to burn your points :P


and also a nice way to get up in points when you are 'lower then average'.

doodleassasin is just pure gambling.

Ontopic, this idea is pretty stupid, and i disapprove with it. score should be an indication of skill (and even tho it isn't currently, your idea is not going to improve it)
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Re: Betting your points

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:51 am

If nothing else, I get the feeling lack wouldn't be too into implementing this... Betting points doesn't seem to support the "casual gaming" this site is attempting to reflect.

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Re: Betting your points

Postby blakebowling on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:24 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:If nothing else, I get the feeling lack wouldn't be too into implementing this... Betting points doesn't seem to support the "casual gaming" this site is attempting to reflect.

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Set the amount of points for a game

Postby Lindax on Tue May 15, 2012 9:53 pm

Don't know if this has been suggested before. I know I mentioned it, but I'll make it an official suggestion.

Concise description:
I would like to have the option to start a game and set the amount of points players stake on the game.

Specifics/Details:
Instead of having the standard CC way of calculating points, you start a game where everybody puts 20 points in the "pot". No matter if you're a cook or a general, you stand to lose 20 points or win 20 point times the amount of players. In an 8 player game the winner would get 160 points, in a 1v1 game the winner would get 40 points, no matter if the winner is a cook or a general.

The 20 points is just an example, you should be able to play for any amount within certain boundaries, say anywhere between 10 and 50 points, which I think is pretty much the average range. So, if you set up a 4 player game with a 40 point stake, the winner would get 160 points. And obviously it's all voluntary, you only join if you want to play for the specific amount of points.

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
Of course it would be an additional option. One I think that will make players more active, especially higher ranked players. It would be the perfect solution for people like myself, people that love to play, but right now lose a disproportionate amount of points when they lose and get few points when they win. Yesterday for example, I won 68 points in a 6 player speed game and lost 47 in a 1v1 tournament game.

I really think that it would especially attract a lot more players to speed games. I personally don't care enough about points to not play 6, 7, 8 player escalating games with all lower ranked players, but I know a lot of people do.

Following the same line of though, I also think it would be a possible incentive for a lot more players to join tournaments. And we all know tournaments are one of the most important activities that keep people playing on CC.

Those type of games would also eliminate the ever-present "need" for lower ranked players to go after the highest ranked player first.

I'm pretty sure it's a win-win option for us players as well as for CC.

Only thing I can think of people saying is that it would give almost-farmers a chance to get even more points easily. Maybe question marks and freemiums shouldn't be able to join games with this option, I don't know. But hey, there will always be a small amount of people taking advantage of any system. In the meantime it would give many players an additional option that I think would get many players to play more and enjoy Conquer Club a lot more....

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Re: Set the amount of points for a game

Postby vodean on Wed May 16, 2012 4:04 pm

whats in it for the lower-ranked players??
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Re: Set the amount of points for a game

Postby Lindax on Wed May 16, 2012 4:12 pm

vodean wrote:whats in it for the lower-ranked players??


More people to play with, especially for speed games.

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