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Postby yeti_c on Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:40 am

AndyDufresne wrote:You'd be surprised! But even if we added a rank you need to achieve, it seems like an option we'd be less likely to consider.


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You're probably right - in my initial post I wasn't sure whether it would be useful/too easy to be abused - stil it generated some interest here so perhaps worth considering if the wrinkles can be ironed out.

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Postby Marvaddin on Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:56 am

What about if you could bet 5 to 40 points in a game? Flat options like 5, 10, 20, 30 and 40 would already be ok. Bet games should be another singles variation, as standard and terminator. The game creator decides how much all will bet (everyone will bet the same amount), and this would be clear to the ones joining the games. Instead of standard, it could appear like "Bet: 10" or "Bet (10)".

Once you have achieved 500 points, you cant start / join more bet games (so no need to worry about negative score and much abuse).

I think it would be good for the whole community. The possibility of cool games risking only 5 points could bring veterans back to public games. If they want a top fight, they can gain 200 points for winning.

The main problem I see is: some guys could use this to get 200 points from deadbeats and privates in public games, so maybe we could use a reducer according to the ranking. Like, if a colonel wins, he gets 80% of the points from majors, 60% from captains, and so. The rest is missed, or, well I dont know.

Or, we could just allow to join the bet games people that are same level or 1 level up or down the game creator.

What do you guys think?
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Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:42 pm

I'm still not in favor of this, mostly because I know I will be dealing with the extra multis, along with our multi hunters!


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Postby hecter on Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:27 pm

If people want rank so badly that they want to do a crapload of work to get all those points then let them. I don't really care that much about rank, i just want to have fun. So if they want to be a general that badly then say fine, because it won't increase there ability at all. While they enjoy there ill earned rank, the rest of us can have loads of fun with this new system.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:36 pm

Unfortunately, I don't see many taking such a care free attitude toward cheaters.


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Postby pancakemix on Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:44 pm

What if it was avalible only to premium members? That would definetly stop people from making multiple accounts.
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Postby hecter on Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:54 pm

I want to play that to. I really want to play that, and i'm cheap, so i dont wanna buy a premium.
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Postby ericisshort on Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:59 pm

I think this could be an interesting idea but the possibilities for exploiting it would make it necesary to have a lot of restrictions, which would be a pain in the arse to code.
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Postby CBlake on Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:09 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Still not a fan of it, one more way to abuse the system and encourage people to create more multiple accounts. :)


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thats why we have multi hunters :wink:

and if you are really that dumb to cheat on an online risk site u must not have a life
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Postby LewisJB3 on Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:25 am

I don't really like it because the high ranked players would use it to keep there points from privates.
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Postby everywhere116 on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:16 am

CBlake wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Still not a fan of it, one more way to abuse the system and encourage people to create more multiple accounts. :)


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thats why we have multi hunters :wink:

and if you are really that dumb to cheat on an online risk site u must not have a life


I know its sad if you have to cheat, but people still do it.
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:42 pm

But why not make it availible only to "members in good standing" (aka generals) and only after a request has been made to and had been aproved by admins? It could be like weekly or monthly events. And it would give us low-ranks an opportunity to watch generals fighting (and being demoted :twisted: ) . IMO there would be a lot of interess for watching these type of matches, if they are properly anounced in the Callouts
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Postby max is gr8 on Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:12 am

I think no.
That is all I need to say.
It could be easily abused the only time I could think of a use for it is during tournaments. And tounaments are not important enough to have settings made just for them
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Point-Ante Games *rejected*

Postby Mitch.Bina on Wed May 02, 2007 7:04 pm

Suggestion Idea:

Creating a game would have an option to ante a specific amount of points to play. Every player wanting to play would have to ante the specified amount of points. The winner of the Game-type wins the points. All game types could use this option.

Specifics:

In a terminator game when you eliminate a player you get that players ante. Team games split the ante among the winning Team, and all other games the winner gets all the anted points. There probably should be ante groups. For example you can ante in 5-point increments starting with 10.

Why it is needed:

Because there is fear of losing large amounts of points to lower point players specifically for high point players which causes "I Think" a large segregation of (Point Have-Have Not’s also known as rank) specific games.


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I am not saying we do away with the current point system as it exists I am just proposing a user selected way of distributing game points. So players wanting to play by the current point formula can, and those with a flat rate formula can.
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Postby pancakemix on Wed May 02, 2007 7:05 pm

Already been suggested.
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Postby Mitch.Bina on Wed May 02, 2007 7:06 pm

aahhh and what was the outcome?
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Postby hecter on Wed May 02, 2007 7:08 pm

Well, I imagine it was put on the To Do list…
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Postby Mitch.Bina on Wed May 02, 2007 7:09 pm

hhhmm i just read the to-do list and didnt see any ante point system otherwise i wouldnt have posted
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Postby hecter on Wed May 02, 2007 7:14 pm

Ya… They really need to update it…
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Postby Keredrex on Wed May 02, 2007 8:51 pm

I Agree... It could make a gambling option to the games...

i would love to make a game and play for 20 or even 100 points flat....
it could help you manage your rank progression....

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Postby AK_iceman on Wed May 02, 2007 9:07 pm

I like the idea, but 100 points is too much. Maybe 20 points max per game...
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Postby mibi on Wed May 02, 2007 9:59 pm

great idea but 20 points max? thats lame. 100 points max. and it should only be for private games other wise there will be too much bitching.
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100 Points MAX

Postby Keredrex on Wed May 02, 2007 10:24 pm

mibi wrote:great idea but 20 points max? thats lame. 100 points max. and it should only be for private games other wise there will be too much bitching.



I think If the Players want to 100 points is a good maximum.... It gives the Generals and Other high ranks a game that could actually hurt there ranks instead of many games
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Re: 100 Points MAX

Postby AK_iceman on Wed May 02, 2007 11:16 pm

Keredrex wrote:
mibi wrote:great idea but 20 points max? thats lame. 100 points max. and it should only be for private games other wise there will be too much bitching.



I think If the Players want to 100 points is a good maximum.... It gives the Generals and Other high ranks a game that could actually hurt there ranks instead of many games

Or a game that people could abuse to get high scores.
100 per person in a 6 player game would leave the winner with 500 extra points. Win a couple of those and you're a General. I know we have the Battle Royales, but those aren't common and it doesn't disrupt the balance of points very much.
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Postby sully800 on Thu May 03, 2007 12:21 am

Also, think of what already existing cheaters would do with such a system. Someone could create a few multis, bet the max and be up thousands of points in no time. Point ante games would completely overturn the current poitn system, and not in a good way. Of course we could eventually catch people who were cheating the system, but would it be fun watching someone shoot up to 5000 points on the scoreboard and then getting busted? The scoreboard would become a joke.
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