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Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:08 am
by Chariot of Fire
I don't want to curse our chances, but we're looking pretty good :)

freaky....you're welcome ;)

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:48 am
by freakns
Chariot of Fire wrote:I don't want to curse our chances, but we're looking pretty good :)

freaky....you're welcome ;)

dont worry, youll get your reward in second round... all 25cm of it! :P

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:09 pm
by Chariot of Fire
But I already own a ruler :-s

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:15 pm
by silversun6
Chariot of Fire wrote:But I already own a ruler :-s



why i dont see josko in this thread ?!?

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:19 pm
by Chariot of Fire
because it contains good humour

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:28 pm
by freakns
Chariot of Fire wrote:because it contains good humour

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:22 am
by betiko
well if what cof says is true, looks like we already have our 4 finalists! and OTP1 is the only one with a 7-0 record, so we all have to gang up on them since we are all 6-1!!! :D

are we really gonna let freak and co. win both the GA and the tournament??? come on, he's serbian!!!!

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:09 pm
by freakns
betiko wrote:well if what cof says is true, looks like we already have our 4 finalists! and OTP1 is the only one with a 7-0 record, so we all have to gang up on them since we are all 6-1!!! :D

are we really gonna let freak and co. win both the GA and the tournament??? come on, he's serbian!!!!

all 4 of us are serbs! ha! ok, dinu is something between serbian and romanian, but who the f*ck cares about romania... maybe fins, he is born on serbian/romanian border... crap, im in clan with bunch of romanian spies! :o

so, after round one
big dicks 7-0
small dicks, little dicks and tiny dicks all 6-1

looking good... looking good

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:28 am
by betiko
freakns wrote:
betiko wrote:well if what cof says is true, looks like we already have our 4 finalists! and OTP1 is the only one with a 7-0 record, so we all have to gang up on them since we are all 6-1!!! :D

are we really gonna let freak and co. win both the GA and the tournament??? come on, he's serbian!!!!

all 4 of us are serbs! ha! ok, dinu is something between serbian and romanian, but who the f*ck cares about romania... maybe fins, he is born on serbian/romanian border... crap, im in clan with bunch of romanian spies! :o

so, after round one
big dicks 7-0
small dicks, little dicks and tiny dicks all 6-1

looking good... looking good


romanians are latin and not slavs so i'm fine with that! :P

anyway, just as a reminder: those round wins from round 1 will be brought to the final round worth 1 point each, but winning a round in the finals is worth 2 points each as stated in kingm's rules. Nevertheless, after talking to him it remains a bit unclear about tiebreaks.

would you guys agree on this?

-first are counted round points (round 1=1pt final round=2pts all added up)
-in case of tie in round points, head to head round confrontation will count first
-in case of another tie (one team won round 1, the other team won the final round, and this could only happen for tofu vs tnc as it's impossible for us to tie in round points vs OTP); games won will prevail.

thanks to tell me if you're ok with this before we start the finals.

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:43 am
by Chariot of Fire
Personally I've always felt the W/L difference was more important than the head-to-head and would make that the 2nd deciding factor.

You could have two teams that have each won every game except one. One of the teams won 12 of their games 3-0 and their only loss was 1-2. The other team won 12 of their matches 2-1 and lost one match 0-3.

Team A, 20pts, W37 L2 (net +35)

Team B, 20pts, W24 L15 (net +9)

Yet Team A lose because their head-to-head with Team B was their only loss, 1-2

To me that just seems unfair in any tournament.

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:59 pm
by betiko
Chariot of Fire wrote:Personally I've always felt the W/L difference was more important than the head-to-head and would make that the 2nd deciding factor.

You could have two teams that have each won every game except one. One of the teams won 12 of their games 3-0 and their only loss was 1-2. The other team won 12 of their matches 2-1 and lost one match 0-3.

Team A, 20pts, W37 L2 (net +35)

Team B, 20pts, W24 L15 (net +9)

Yet Team A lose because their head-to-head with Team B was their only loss, 1-2

To me that just seems unfair in any tournament.


that brings us back to football. In the french league, if 2 teams have the same number of points at the end of the season, the one with the best goal average wins. In the spanish league, the team with the most points in head to head wins. in the italian league, they play a tiebreaker (don't know how it's done in premiership?)
looks like I'm going for the spanish solution and cof for the french solution. would like to hear what freakns and ckyrias think (freakns will have an impartial judgement as it's impossible for his team to tie with anyone)

for the record, here are the scores:

OTP1: 16-5
Pack: 14-6 (looking like it will end 15-6)
TOFU: 14-4 (16-5?)
TNC: 14-4 (15-6?)

we're all pretty close anyway, and I guess head to head & overall win/loss will probably give the same winner.

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:41 am
by freakns
im fine with anything... h2h looks to me like most common one

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:56 am
by Chariot of Fire
goal difference is the most common one (if you're comparing football leagues)

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:48 am
by betiko
another solution which would change quite much the finals, but that I even prefer would be o make it playoff style in the finals.

do we really need to re-face each other? this would save us all 1 round.

semifinal 1
group A winner versus group B runner up
semifinal 2
group B winner versus group A runner up

finals (best of 5?)

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:52 am
by Chariot of Fire
I'm happy with that idea. Best-of-3 semi-finals, yes? For final I'd also stick to best-of-3 (5 of these games is a lot!)

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:41 am
by betiko
Chariot of Fire wrote:I'm happy with that idea. Best-of-3 semi-finals, yes? For final I'd also stick to best-of-3 (5 of these games is a lot!)


yeah best of 3 for the finals is fine with me too. one more vote and we have a majority.

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:50 am
by dana1971
Best of three sounds good to me, keeps it exciting.

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:40 pm
by tokle
I'm fine with any rules, as long as we win. :D

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:39 pm
by betiko
tokle wrote:I'm fine with any rules, as long as we win. :D

That doesn't help what do you prefer? ;)

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:02 am
by betiko
so TNC is agreeing on playoff style as well?

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:30 am
by tokle
We agree that overall W/L difference should be more important than head to head round confrontation.

betiko wrote:so TNC is agreeing on playoff style as well?

Yes, we are.

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:44 pm
by betiko
Group 1 (6/7) : (Team number - team members - series W/L - games W/L - longest winstreak - curent winstreak)
show


Group 2 (6/7) : (Team number - team members - series W/L - games W/L - longest winstreak - curent winstreak)
show



group A
Round 1 : 1-2 (2-1), 3-4 (0-3), 5-6 (2-1), 7-8 (2-1)
Round 2 : 1-3 (3-0), 2-4 (1-2), 5-7 (1-2), 6-8 (0-3)
Round 3 : 1-4 (2-1), 2-5 (1-2), 3-8 (0-3), 6-7 (1-2)
Round 4 : 1-5 (2-1), 2-6 (1-2), 3-7 (0-3), 4-8 (2-1)
Round 5 : 1-6 (2-1), 2-8 (1-2), 3-5 (1-2), 4-7 (0-3)
Round 6 : 1-7 (1-2), 2-3 (3-0), 4-6 (2-1), 5-8 (2-1)
Round 7 : 1-8 (3-0), 2-7 (1-2), 3-6 (0-1), 4-5 (1-1)

group B
Round 1 : 1-2 (0-3), 3-4 (2-1), 5-6 (1-2), 7-8 (3-0)
Round 2 : 1-3 (1-2), 2-4 (2-1), 5-7 (1-2), 6-8 (1-2)
Round 3 : 1-4 (1-2), 2-5 (3-0), 3-8 (2-1), 6-7 (0-3)
Round 4 : 1-5 (2-1), 2-6 (3-0), 3-7 (1-2), 4-8 (1-2)
Round 5 : 1-6 (2-1), 2-8 (1-2), 3-5 (2-1), 4-7 (1-2)
Round 6 : 1-7 (1-2), 2-3 (2-1), 4-6 (3-0), 5-8 (1-2)
Round 7 : 1-8 (1-2), 2-7 (1-1), 3-6 (1-0), 4-5 (3-0)

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:45 am
by betiko
was actually looking at the final game between TNC and TOFU, not that sure tofu is taking the round, so it is a tough battle for second place. Oh, and OTP would still fight for the GA medal with TNC, both with 7 rounds straigh win then..

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:51 am
by tokle
betiko wrote:was actually looking at the final game between TNC and TOFU, not that sure tofu is taking the round, so it is a tough battle for second place. Oh, and OTP would still fight for the GA medal with TNC, both with 7 rounds straigh win then..

Isn't it a battle for 1st place?
And will the fight for the GA medal carry on into the semi-finals? Or do we play a tie-breaker?

Re: Kingm's #21 Medal Hunters (Ongoing)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:53 am
by tokle
This TOFU is pretty tough to chew... But we're Crusaders, I think we can handle it. 8-)