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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby BuJaber on Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:37 am

For a last chance at joining games that can count I've created a number of them.

I had the worst losing streak I've ever had since joining the site during this challenge, so I'm hunting the medal even more vigorously.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby t4mcr53s2 on Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:11 pm

could you check the OP and explain why getting hit by an average tomato would feel like 4.8 on the scale?
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:40 pm

t4mcr53s2 wrote:could you check the OP and explain why getting hit by an average tomato would feel like 4.8 on the scale?

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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:47 am

ooge wrote:The challenge may be to see if anyone accomplishes this.

So far one player (Awoodness) has qualified. Still 13 hours left to join games, and then two months (max) for all of them to wrap up. I imagine there will be 10 or 12 people who do it.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby boberz on Thu May 05, 2016 4:41 pm

I managed to get a bronze entirely accidentally. Only just noticed it. Cheers guys.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby shoop76 on Fri May 06, 2016 6:21 am

Dukasaur wrote:
ooge wrote:The challenge may be to see if anyone accomplishes this.

So far one player (Awoodness) has qualified. Still 13 hours left to join games, and then two months (max) for all of them to wrap up. I imagine there will be 10 or 12 people who do it.


I don't see how he has accomplished the challenge. His tokens are not distributed correctly.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Dukasaur on Fri May 06, 2016 4:18 pm

shoop76 wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
ooge wrote:The challenge may be to see if anyone accomplishes this.

So far one player (Awoodness) has qualified. Still 13 hours left to join games, and then two months (max) for all of them to wrap up. I imagine there will be 10 or 12 people who do it.


I don't see how he has accomplished the challenge. His tokens are not distributed correctly.

Not all his tokens count. He has a lot of extras in the golds and silvers that don't count, but the ones that count are enough.

With 24 bronze, only 12 of his silvers count, and with 12 silvers only 4 of his golds count, that that is more than enough.

Double-checked the math just to be sure:

24 bronze = 288,000,000
12 silver = 1,440,000,000
4 gold = 4,800,000,000

subtotal = 6,528,000,000 or 6.528 x 10e9

log10(6.528)=0.814780
log10(10e9)=9

total log = 9.81478 or given the two-digit precision, 9.8.

His score is correct.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat May 07, 2016 9:28 am

Do the silvers need to be counted for the second-order calculations? Are Bronzes even needed?
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Dukasaur on Sat May 07, 2016 10:00 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Do the silvers need to be counted for the second-order calculations? Are Bronzes even needed?

Yes. Your golds don't count if you don't have 3 silvers for each, and your silvers don't count if you don't have 2 bronzes for each.

Or are you asking if the smaller medals are statistically insignificant in the total? Well, if one has 4 golds that count like in the Awoodness example, then he would qualify for the CA medal without the others. However, someone with only 2 golds would need his silvers and bronzes to cross the line. Also, it's not just about the CAs, of course. For people fighting for the top 5 to get star prizes, one extra bronze might mean the difference between being 5th and being 6th. Finally, one could achieve target with no golds at all, with large enough numbers of bronze and silver.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby shoop76 on Mon May 09, 2016 5:29 am

Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Do the silvers need to be counted for the second-order calculations? Are Bronzes even needed?

Yes. Your golds don't count if you don't have 3 silvers for each, and your silvers don't count if you don't have 2 bronzes for each.

Or are you asking if the smaller medals are statistically insignificant in the total? Well, if one has 4 golds that count like in the Awoodness example, then he would qualify for the CA medal without the others. However, someone with only 2 golds would need his silvers and bronzes to cross the line. Also, it's not just about the CAs, of course. For people fighting for the top 5 to get star prizes, one extra bronze might mean the difference between being 5th and being 6th. Finally, one could achieve target with no golds at all, with large enough numbers of bronze and silver.


Then its worded very poorly in my opinion. Also I didn't know that there were still start prizes. I didn't see a mention of that in the OP.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Dukasaur on Mon May 09, 2016 7:02 am

shoop76 wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Do the silvers need to be counted for the second-order calculations? Are Bronzes even needed?

Yes. Your golds don't count if you don't have 3 silvers for each, and your silvers don't count if you don't have 2 bronzes for each.

Or are you asking if the smaller medals are statistically insignificant in the total? Well, if one has 4 golds that count like in the Awoodness example, then he would qualify for the CA medal without the others. However, someone with only 2 golds would need his silvers and bronzes to cross the line. Also, it's not just about the CAs, of course. For people fighting for the top 5 to get star prizes, one extra bronze might mean the difference between being 5th and being 6th. Finally, one could achieve target with no golds at all, with large enough numbers of bronze and silver.


Then its worded very poorly in my opinion. Also I didn't know that there were still start prizes. I didn't see a mention of that in the OP.

As far as I know, the star prizes for the Top 5 never change. They're not specifically referenced in each Challenge, but they continue to be handed out, unless I'm mistaken. I'll ask CM14 to confirm.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby CatchersMitt14 on Mon May 09, 2016 3:04 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
shoop76 wrote:Then its worded very poorly in my opinion. Also I didn't know that there were still start prizes. I didn't see a mention of that in the OP.

As far as I know, the star prizes for the Top 5 never change. They're not specifically referenced in each Challenge, but they continue to be handed out, unless I'm mistaken. I'll ask CM14 to confirm.


Yes, stars continue to be awarded to the top five finishers on each month's scoreboard. The prize structure was moved into the Monthly Challenges' FAQs thread.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Awoodness on Sun May 22, 2016 5:23 am

10.0 on the Richter Scale. :o

Theldin is looking like only other one to possibly medal. Maybe Bujaber.
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Awoodness on Sun May 29, 2016 12:07 pm

Awoodness wrote:10.0 on the Richter Scale. :o

Theldin is looking like only other one to possibly medal. Maybe Bujaber.



Make that 10.1!!!!!!

KABOOOOOOOMMMMM!!! GONNA WIPE OUT THE WHOLE PLANET.




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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Dukasaur on Sun May 29, 2016 2:39 pm

Awoodness wrote:
Awoodness wrote:10.0 on the Richter Scale. :o

Theldin is looking like only other one to possibly medal. Maybe Bujaber.



Make that 10.1!!!!!!

KABOOOOOOOMMMMM!!! GONNA WIPE OUT THE WHOLE PLANET.




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You're a monster!

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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Theldin on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:29 am

Awoodness wrote:10.0 on the Richter Scale. :o

Theldin is looking like only other one to possibly medal. Maybe Bujaber.


Nope had 9 silver games going to try and get my last 2 silver needed to jump to needed level...failed...
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby Theldin on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:32 am

Dukasaur wrote:
ooge wrote:The challenge may be to see if anyone accomplishes this.

So far one player (Awoodness) has qualified. Still 13 hours left to join games, and then two months (max) for all of them to wrap up. I imagine there will be 10 or 12 people who do it.


10 or 12 people.... HA! more like just the 1 World-Ender... Awoodness
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Re: April 2016 - "Logarithmic Plots are a Device of the Devi

Postby CatchersMitt14 on Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:54 pm

Medal and stars awarded.

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