thegreekdog wrote:Neoteny wrote:That's fair enough, I think. I don't recall the anti-Catholic threads in question, but the only thing I can think of that would make the situation different would be if they were intended to be serious discussions of Catholicism.
I do see a difference between a Hitler joke thread and a thread discussing priestly indiscretions. If the latter were serious, it would be uncomfortable, but likely necessary discussion. But a thread using the priests to make fun of Catholics or some such would be roughly equivalent.
I guess a few responses. First, the threads in question were not serious discussions of Catholicism (JB would disagree). I've participated in serious discussion of Catholicism (and am willing to participate in said discussions). Second, they were not threads making fun of Catholics, although maybe they were intended that way. There was not, for example, a thread with fake movie names making fun of priests (which ultimately I would have been fine with). They also, I might note, were threads both here (around the time I was a moderator) and in McGill.
In any event, all that above is not ultimately the point. The point is that if I asked JB to stop, like he asked me to stop, I expected him to stop, like I stopped. Since that's not what happened, JB is a douchebag. We should treat our internet friends with at least a modicum of respect, or at least follow the Golden Rule (treat people like you want to be treated). I treated JB like he wanted to be treated, he did not reciprocate. If he wanted to have a serious discussion about the Catholic Church and its various abuses, he could have created a thread or participated in one of the various threads on the subject of religion (that doesn't have to do with creationism) that abound in this forum. Instead he posted in various of pimpdave's "let's see how much I get away with" Catholic threads and the private McGill usergroup (which is not really intended for serious discussions, generally).
I'm not asking you to take a side, I'm just trying to illustrate the problem I have with JB so that people don't misunderstand. It's like this... Your best friend said "Stop punching me in the arm all the time" and you stopped, because he's your friend. And ten minutes later your friend starts punching you in the leg. You say "Stop," and he says, "No" and continues to punch you in the leg. When you tell your other friends he's a douchebag, he says "Punching Neoteny in the leg is not the same as when he punched me in the arm because punching in the arm is more hurtful and because punching in the leg has more validity than punches to the arm."
I'm not really looking to take a side. I'm just parsing. Just to get a grasp on what's going on.