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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:45 pm

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Postby HoustonNutt on Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:05 pm

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P Gizzle wrote:i believe Chokasaurus Rex is Rex Grossman, but i think is a Manning and all mannings like to choke....


Don't you have to have success before a playoff flop is a real "choke?"


no, not really


look at hasselbeck, he choked :roll:


There are levels to choking, though. Losing after you fag out and pull "we want the ball, we're going to win" is different from being MVP, super QB and never winning a meaningful game.
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:34 pm

not completely....

in MY opinion, the only thing that matters is winning, not how you win, or lose
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Postby Kid_A on Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:52 pm

P Gizzle wrote:in MY opinion, the only thing that matters is winning, not how you win, or lose


Which is why i think the Patriots were my choice to win it all since pre-season. Tom Brady wins. He's the best quarterback of this era. There's no close 2nd. Manning is a phenomenal regular season quarterback with amazing stats, but Brady wins big games. 3 Superbowls in 5 years! After he wins this Superbowl there will a debate of who was better, Brady or Montana.
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Postby Kayla on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:00 pm

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Postby HoustonNutt on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:02 pm

P Gizzle wrote:not completely....

in MY opinion, the only thing that matters is winning, not how you win, or lose


I can agree with this. HOWEVER, Peyton losing a game is amplified to a degree that Rex is not. Moreover, Brady losing a game is seen as an anomaly, while P.Rivers is not. There are levels of not coming through in January.
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:07 pm

Very true.....


However, i believe that you cannot measure who is better, since it is all in opinion....


in MY opinion, Johnny Unitas is the greatest QB of all time...do you guys care? no, it's only MY OPINION
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Postby HoustonNutt on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:09 pm

P Gizzle wrote:Very true.....


However, i believe that you cannot measure who is better, since it is all in opinion....


in MY opinion, Johnny Unitas is the greatest QB of all time...do you guys care? no, it's only MY OPINION


That's a fair point. Still, the importance of a single loss in the playoffs is magnified/minimized by what one has done prior to that loss. You can't argue with that.
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:15 pm

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P Gizzle wrote:Very true.....


However, i believe that you cannot measure who is better, since it is all in opinion....


in MY opinion, Johnny Unitas is the greatest QB of all time...do you guys care? no, it's only MY OPINION


That's a fair point. Still, the importance of a single loss in the playoffs is magnified/minimized by what one has done prior to that loss. You can't argue with that.


no, i cant, but i still think that both Grossman, and Manning are chokers....


Manning may be more of one, but Grossman will be worse, esp. if Manning gets a ring this year....
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Postby HoustonNutt on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:28 pm

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P Gizzle wrote:Very true.....


However, i believe that you cannot measure who is better, since it is all in opinion....


in MY opinion, Johnny Unitas is the greatest QB of all time...do you guys care? no, it's only MY OPINION


That's a fair point. Still, the importance of a single loss in the playoffs is magnified/minimized by what one has done prior to that loss. You can't argue with that.


no, i cant, but i still think that both Grossman, and Manning are chokers....


Manning may be more of one, but Grossman will be worse, esp. if Manning gets a ring this year....


Won't happen. Ever. Seriously... look at his track record.[/i]
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:31 pm

im not counting them out...esp. since they are my 3rd fav. team (after Seattle and Baltimore, ironic, i know :roll: )
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Postby HoustonNutt on Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:53 pm

P Gizzle wrote:im not counting them out...esp. since they are my 3rd fav. team (after Seattle and Baltimore, ironic, i know :roll: )


Mine: Texans (obviously), Jags, and Titans.
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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:07 am

yeah, i like good ol' Vince Young....that kid can play! the Jags were sooo close this year, just needed to be better late, and boy, them Texans get better every year.....so, who did u cheer for before 2002?
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Postby HoustonNutt on Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:13 am

P Gizzle wrote:yeah, i like good ol' Vince Young....that kid can play! the Jags were sooo close this year, just needed to be better late, and boy, them Texans get better every year.....so, who did u cheer for before 2002?


Rams (because I liked T. Holt and L. Little) and Chiefs.
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Postby Serbia on Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:30 am

If Detroit had a pro football team, they'd be my favorite, otherwise I like the Pats (Michigan connection with Brady), and then I just pick two teams at the begining of the year, and this year happened to be San Diego (love LT, because he doesn't do those stupid dances) and New Orleans (the whole hurricane angle). So perfect Super Bowl, NE - NO, with NE winning.
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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:43 am

Serbia wrote:If Detroit had a pro football team, they'd be my favorite, otherwise I like the Pats (Michigan connection with Brady), and then I just pick two teams at the begining of the year, and this year happened to be San Diego (love LT, because he doesn't do those stupid dances) and New Orleans (the whole hurricane angle). So perfect Super Bowl, NE - NO, with NE winning.


well, they have the lions, but they don't play like pros

and, the Rams were cool, up until 2002, when my hawks had to play them...
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Postby Serbia on Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:26 am

P Gizzle wrote:
Serbia wrote:If Detroit had a pro football team, they'd be my favorite, otherwise I like the Pats (Michigan connection with Brady), and then I just pick two teams at the begining of the year, and this year happened to be San Diego (love LT, because he doesn't do those stupid dances) and New Orleans (the whole hurricane angle). So perfect Super Bowl, NE - NO, with NE winning.


well, they have the lions, but they don't play like pros

and, the Rams were cool, up until 2002, when my hawks had to play them...


Trust me, I live in Detroit, I've seen the Lions, they're NOT a pro team. :cry:
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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:26 am

now, they aren't

they were when they had Barry Sanders


and Detroit has an awesome airport
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Postby Serbia on Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:50 pm

Yeah, even Barry was smart enough to know this was about to become a minor league team, and he skipped out.

And strangely, I haven't been to the airport since the expansion, last time there back in '95.
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Postby P Gizzle on Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:08 pm

yeah, it's awesome...there's like a mall in there now, and tons of cool stores, plus the indoor monorail like thing....i went there on my way to cleveland...it was cool
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