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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby warmonger1981 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:04 pm

f*ck you to jones.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:08 pm

Don't go too near any wood works or my sharks'll get you.
P.S. you mean "you too".
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby warmonger1981 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:21 pm

I forgot I'm now talking to a grown man who dresses up like a pirate. Is " f*ck you" good? Or do I need to talk like a pirate?
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:39 pm

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warmonger1981 wrote:Alright f*ck heads. Obviously your girlfriends. smell chum in the water. They are all coming out of the wood work like a bunch of sharks defending a loved one. I done use spell check first of all. Crispy you are a prick for trying to act all " I'm all above this guys intelligence". Andy seems to jump into other peoples shit. Go eat a banana or take the one outta your ASS. And where the f*ck did comic boy come from. Go stick your head in a superman comic.



Sharks come out of the wood work to defend their loved ones?
What the f*ck sort of shark is that?

A wood shark, Jonesy.

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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:47 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:I forgot I'm now talking to a grown man who dresses up like a pirate. Is " f*ck you" good? Or do I need to talk like a pirate?


Well, that's not a very Christian attitude. I'm sure that when your intellectual and grammatical inadequacies are mocked, Jesus would tell you to turn the other brain cell.
And remember what the poet said – “in booty there is loot, and in loot booty.” Or sump’n like that.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:51 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:f*ck you to jones.


I'm still trying to figure out this one.

Does warmonger mean that while one fucks you or himself, then one must f*ck in the general direction of jones? Or maybe you take a picture of the fucking, then sent it to jones.

If only we had a book which explained these things... I reject all dictionaries though--Viceroy taught me well.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby warmonger1981 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:09 pm

Look at the big brain on brad. Its a royal with cheese cause of the metric system. Now look in the bag for the wallet that says " bad motherfucker" on it. Please hunny bunny.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby warmonger1981 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:11 pm

I'm probably one of the worst Christians out there. Probably no salvation for me.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Frigidus on Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:36 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:I'm probably one of the worst Christians out there. Probably no salvation for me.


Maybe not, but you could probably get rich hosting a new show on FOX news.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby notyou2 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:16 pm

Crispy, your question went south after I posted. Sorry dude.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby comic boy on Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:45 pm

You would think God would at least make his creations literate.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby notyou2 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:50 pm

comic boy wrote:You would think God would at least make his creations literate.


I assume you are now done with that comic. May I read it?
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:57 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:Look at the big brain on brad. Its a royal with cheese cause of the metric system. Now look in the bag for the wallet that says " bad motherfucker" on it. Please hunny bunny.


Someone suggested that some of the creationists on here were actually some sort of response bot. I don't think that's true, but judging by this post you may well be a random word generator. I seriously haven't the least idea what your post is intended to mean.
And remember what the poet said – “in booty there is loot, and in loot booty.” Or sump’n like that.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:04 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:I'm probably one of the worst Christians out there. Probably no salvation for me.


Many angry Christian posters, especially creationists, do seem to have missed Jesus's instructions to be peacemakers, meek, charitable in your attitudes, forgiving of your enemies, and so forth. It's a bit odd that it takes a heathen (and what's more a pirate heathen), to point this out to you. Seriously, if you believe in this stuff, you have to try to calm down.

Oh, and if you manage to find any shows on TV that aren't "reality" shows these days, you may notice there arepeople called "actors" in them. Sometimes they wear clothes that are not the same as you see when you look out of your window. Sometimes they pretend to be someone else. Maybe even a pirate.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:50 am

warmonger1981 wrote:I'm probably one of the worst Christians out there. Probably no salvation for me.


The fact that you recognize what a low down dirty shame, piece of a shit bag that you are means that there is more hope for you then for a living lion.

It's those who believe that they are "All of that" and then some, who don't realize the trouble they are in. In the resurrection and the final judgment at the end of God's plan. Then "the first shall be last and the last shall be first" (Luke 13:30).

"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
And base things of the world, and things which are despised
, [vile things/people] hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:..."
-1Corinthians 1:27-28

If they can see the truth of what they are!
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 am

Viceroy63 wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:I'm probably one of the worst Christians out there. Probably no salvation for me.


The fact that you recognize what a low down dirty shame, piece of a shit bag that you are means that there is more hope for you then for a living lion.

It's those who believe that they are "All of that" and then some, who don't realize the trouble they are in. In the resurrection and the final judgment at the end of God's plan. Then "the first shall be last and the last shall be first" (Luke 13:30).





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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:08 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
Viceroy63 wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:I'm probably one of the worst Christians out there. Probably no salvation for me.


The fact that you recognize what a low down dirty shame, piece of a shit bag that you are means that there is more hope for you then for a living lion.

It's those who believe that they are "All of that" and then some, who don't realize the trouble they are in. In the resurrection and the final judgment at the end of God's plan. Then "the first shall be last and the last shall be first" (Luke 13:30).

"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
And base things of the world, and things which are despised
, [vile things/people] hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:..."
-1Corinthians 1:27-28

If they can see the truth of what they are!





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Hey Andy; You forgot the to include the Bible verses in your quote. But that's OK though; I fixed it for ya. OK! You are welcome! And don't mention it. ;)

"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
And base things of the world, and things which are despised
, [vile things/people] hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:..."
-1Corinthians 1:27-28

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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:59 am

Viceroy63 wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:I'm probably one of the worst Christians out there. Probably no salvation for me.


The fact that you recognize what a low down dirty shame, piece of a shit bag that you are means that there is more hope for you then for a living lion.

It's those who believe that they are "All of that" and then some, who don't realize the trouble they are in. In the resurrection and the final judgment at the end of God's plan. Then "the first shall be last and the last shall be first" (Luke 13:30).

"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
And base things of the world, and things which are despised
, [vile things/people] hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:..."
-1Corinthians 1:27-28

If they can see the truth of what they are!


You might want to reconsider your own position in that case - I've seldom heard anyone singing the "Ha HA I'm saved and you're not!" so smugly.
And remember what the poet said – “in booty there is loot, and in loot booty.” Or sump’n like that.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby comic boy on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:31 pm

Recognising himself as a semi literate bufoon may earn Warmonger divine grace , yet it also confirms his opinions as pretty worthless , careful who you get in bed with Viceroy :D
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:06 pm

comic boy wrote:Recognising himself as a semi literate bufoon may earn Warmonger divine grace , yet it also confirms his opinions as pretty worthless , careful who you get in bed with Viceroy :D


Your opinion doesn't really matter and neither does mine. What matters is the final judgement and if I accept the truth or not. I know what I am but what are you?

If I die believing something that is not true then so do you! And so what? But if I die believing something that is true then I will rise again to life eternal and live again but where would you be???

Would it even matter to anyone for all eternity that you even existed for a tiny unimportant life and time of no more then 100 years or so, in a life filled with painful sorrow and few moments of joy and absolutely no hope what so ever? Do you think that anyone will even remember you then in all of eternity? In an eternity fill with nothing but pure joy and love? Do you really think that anyone will even miss you then?

The old adage is true, that it's not what you know but who you know; And I know exactly with who I am in "bed" with and forever will be in an eternity that you may not even get to know because you simply don't want to. Repentance is a choice and Your eternal death penalty and condemnation is your choice and your fault not God's.

We are born, we live and then we die. And everything in between are just the choices that we make in life. And there are no second chances to make amends for our wrong Choices in life when the opportunities lay right in front of our faces. when we die we are simply the sum of our choices that we make in this life, and that is all that we are and that is what we get judged on, the choices that we make that make us who we are in return.

So You be careful yourself with whom you get into "bed" with because that is your choice. ;)
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby crispybits on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:00 am

Viceroy wrote:Your opinion doesn't really matter and neither does mine. What matters is the final judgement and if I accept the truth or not. I know what I am but what are you?

If I die believing something that is not true then so do you! And so what? But if I die believing something that is true then I will rise again to life eternal and live again but where would you be???


You're basically saying here that your faith is a form of Pascal's wager. You have decided to believe that something is true because if you do and you're right then you win, but if you're wrong then you don't lose, because it doesn't matter anyway as there's no God or judgement or eternal life.

And it takes us back to that factor of truth, which is how we differ. So forget the religious claims for a moment, and lets address the principles of truth or falsehood. What is the underlying principle by which you take any claim and determine if it's correct or not? When presented with anyone saying "X is Y", how do you determine if X actually is Y, or if they are mistaken or lying and X is actually not Y at all.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:08 am

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Viceroy wrote:Your opinion doesn't really matter and neither does mine. What matters is the final judgement and if I accept the truth or not. I know what I am but what are you?

If I die believing something that is not true then so do you! And so what? But if I die believing something that is true then I will rise again to life eternal and live again but where would you be???


You're basically saying here that your faith is a form of Pascal's wager. You have decided to believe that something is true because if you do and you're right then you win, but if you're wrong then you don't lose, because it doesn't matter anyway as there's no God or judgement or eternal life.

And it takes us back to that factor of truth, which is how we differ. So forget the religious claims for a moment, and lets address the principles of truth or falsehood. What is the underlying principle by which you take any claim and determine if it's correct or not? When presented with anyone saying "X is Y", how do you determine if X actually is Y, or if they are mistaken or lying and X is actually not Y at all.


It is truly amazing how from my comment you only picked up on this one part to base a foundationless case. Allow me to repost the whole message and see if I can't drive it home, AGAIN!

Viceroy63 wrote:
comic boy wrote:Recognising himself as a semi literate bufoon may earn Warmonger divine grace , yet it also confirms his opinions as pretty worthless , careful who you get in bed with Viceroy :D


Your opinion doesn't really matter and neither does mine. What matters is the final judgement and if I accept the truth or not. I know what I am but what are you?

If I die believing something that is not true then so do you! And so what? But if I die believing something that is true then I will rise again to life eternal and live again but where would you be???

Would it even matter to anyone for all eternity that you even existed for a tiny unimportant life and time of no more then 100 years or so, in a life filled with painful sorrow and few moments of joy and absolutely no hope what so ever? Do you think that anyone will even remember you then in all of eternity? In an eternity fill with nothing but pure joy and love? Do you really think that anyone will even miss you then?

The old adage is true, that it's not what you know but who you know; And I know exactly with who I am in "bed" with and forever will be in an eternity that you may not even get to know because you simply don't want to. Repentance is a choice and Your eternal death penalty and condemnation is your choice and your fault not God's.

We are born, we live and then we die. And everything in between are just the choices that we make in life. And there are no second chances to make amends for our wrong Choices in life when the opportunities lay right in front of our faces. when we die we are simply the sum of our choices that we make in this life, and that is all that we are and that is what we get judged on, the choices that we make that make us who we are in return.

So You be careful yourself with whom you get into "bed" with because that is your choice. ;)


You see, the point was not some kind of philosophical wager but about who you choose to climb into bed with. The choices that we make in life and where they lead us to, is the whole crux of this comment. But now that you bring it up...

No faith in any belief is blind and without some kind of evidence. The Bible claims are back up by History, Archeology, Science, Medicine and Prophecy. There is no evidence that proves that God does not exist. But there is literally tons of evidence that proves that God does exist and that his word is infallible. And that is why any intelligent person can trust in the claims of the Bible. That is why any reasonably intelligent person would believe in the God of the Bible.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby comic boy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:54 am

Viceroy63 wrote:
comic boy wrote:Recognising himself as a semi literate bufoon may earn Warmonger divine grace , yet it also confirms his opinions as pretty worthless , careful who you get in bed with Viceroy :D


Your opinion doesn't really matter and neither does mine. What matters is the final judgement and if I accept the truth or not. I know what I am but what are you?

If I die believing something that is not true then so do you! And so what? But if I die believing something that is true then I will rise again to life eternal and live again but where would you be???

Would it even matter to anyone for all eternity that you even existed for a tiny unimportant life and time of no more then 100 years or so, in a life filled with painful sorrow and few moments of joy and absolutely no hope what so ever? Do you think that anyone will even remember you then in all of eternity? In an eternity fill with nothing but pure joy and love? Do you really think that anyone will even miss you then?

The old adage is true, that it's not what you know but who you know; And I know exactly with who I am in "bed" with and forever will be in an eternity that you may not even get to know because you simply don't want to. Repentance is a choice and Your eternal death penalty and condemnation is your choice and your fault not God's.

We are born, we live and then we die. And everything in between are just the choices that we make in life. And there are no second chances to make amends for our wrong Choices in life when the opportunities lay right in front of our faces. when we die we are simply the sum of our choices that we make in this life, and that is all that we are and that is what we get judged on, the choices that we make that make us who we are in return.

So You be careful yourself with whom you get into "bed" with because that is your choice. ;)


So to be concise , you need a philosophical crutch and I prefer to live in the present :D
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:57 pm

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Meh, f*ck it, on second thought I can't be bothered to get into this discussion again.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby crispybits on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:35 pm

OK so you've kind of answered the question there indirectly Viceroy. To establish the truth value of the claim "X is Y", you would look for evidence that X is Y. That is entirely sensible and I have no problem with that at all.

So now we have to examine the principles of evidence. What kinds of evidence are good indicators when establishing the truth value of the statement X is Y? Remember we're staying away from religious statements specifically, I'm trying to keep this in very general terms in order to remove any bias in either direction from either of us.

It seems to me we have a few different possible types of evidence:

1) Statistical Evidence
2) Testimonial Evidence
3) Anecdotal Evidence

(feel free to add another category or two in if you don't think these are comprehensive by the way)

1) Statistical Evidence is evidence from confirmed and falsifiable sources gained from factual observations without any interpretation attached to them. For example "the car has many dents and scratches" is statistical evidence.
2) Testimonial Evidence is evidence from confirmed, quotable sources, who have established themselves as an authority on a subject, declaring a judgement about statistical evidence. For example "the car has many dents and scratches because the driver was incompetent and hit many different objects over a long time period" from a crash damage expert.
3) Anecdotal Evidence is evidence from unconfirmed sources, which if confirmed could come under either of the other two categories. For example "the car has many dents and scratches from hitting bollards in the supermarket car park" from the supermarket manager who has found the same colour paint on his bollards is Anecdotal Statistical Evidence, and "the car has many dents and scratches, I often see the driver staggering around when he gets out of the car like he's drunk" from a neighbour is Anecdotal Testimonial Evidence.

Still with me here Viceroy? Anything you want to add/amend in that or are we in agreement on this stuff?
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