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Should AoG's term be reduced to 1 week?

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Fircoal on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:09 pm

Honestly the reasons for his banning are really weak. It's interesting though as I thought the modding around here has gotten better as of late. But this is a return to the bad decisions of 08.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:12 pm

ATTENTION VALUED MODS - I'm recommending everyone who has posted above this message in this thread be given a 72-hour ban for stirring up trouble.

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InkL0sed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:13 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.


Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite, or some other ulterior motive? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:19 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.


Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?

When I said I don't see it that way, I meant my personal view is not an 'us vs. them' mentality. Hey, half those mods you mentioned aren't even around!! But I only mod Live Chat, so I can't speak on behalf of the forums. I just come here for my own enjoyment. I can see how you would perceive some of those actions in that way however, if can always looked bias when you can't see all of the behind the scenes stuff.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InkL0sed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:22 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.


Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?

When I said I don't see it that way, I meant my personal view is not an 'us vs. them' mentality. Hey, half those mods you mentioned aren't even around!! But I only mod Live Chat, so I can't speak on behalf of the forums. I just come here for my own enjoyment. I can see how you would perceive some of those actions in that way however, if can always looked bias when you can't see all of the behind the scenes stuff.
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I'm not really accusing you personally of anything. I was also defending my original statement that there's a long tradition of this stuff.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:23 pm

So anyway, about Army of GOD (getting this back on topic before those scary mods come in here :lol: )

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:25 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:What will you miss the most about AoG?


NOTHING
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:25 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:/chat mods shuts up now


Live chat is heavily biased. You personally banned me for racism and yet MAT said the exact same thing that I said all day today without so much as a warning. :|
Give me a break.

Fircoal wrote:Honestly the reasons for his banning are really weak. It's interesting though as I thought the modding around here has gotten better as of late. But this is a return to the bad decisions of 08.


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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:28 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.


Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite, or some other ulterior motive? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?


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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:28 pm

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Live chat is heavily biased. You personally banned me for racism and yet MAT said the exact same thing that I said all day today without so much as a warning. :|
Give me a break.

Fircoal wrote:Honestly the reasons for his banning are really weak. It's interesting though as I thought the modding around here has gotten better as of late. But this is a return to the bad decisions of 08.


That's how you know the new MODs have arrived.

Actually I did not ban you for racism or you'd be on a longer vacation, but thanks for playing. Live Chat is the least biased place that is moderated. But I digress because that is not the issue at hand and there is no need to argue it.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:31 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:Actually I did not ban you for racism or you'd be on a longer vacation, but thanks for playing. Live Chat is the least biased place that is moderated. But I digress because that is not the issue at hand and there is no need to argue it.


OH RLY?

InsomniaRed wrote:Not when you already know why. You were being racism and attempting to troll. I wasn't about to let it get out of hand.


LMAO I just posted this in private!!!
My prediction is that if she does have the balls to dispute me; she/they will somehow try to take the focus off of it being a racist comment and try to say that I was flaming the races or something. As it stands now, she looks like a stupid
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:32 pm

[sarcasm]My bans are always based on who I like or don't like. You piss me off in a political thread? Banned. You say the Eagles suck? Banned. You make fun of my avatar? Banned. On the other hand, if you acknowledge my superiority, worship my avatar, and lustily boo the Cowboys? You will never be banned.[/sarcasm]
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:34 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:Actually I did not ban you for racism or you'd be on a longer vacation, but thanks for playing. Live Chat is the least biased place that is moderated. But I digress because that is not the issue at hand and there is no need to argue it.


OH RLY?

InsomniaRed wrote:Not when you already know why. You were being racism and attempting to troll. I wasn't about to let it get out of hand.


LMAO I just posted this in private!!!
My prediction is that if she does have the balls to dispute me; she/they will somehow try to take the focus off of it being a racist comment and try to say that I was flaming the races or something. As it stands now, she looks like a stupid

I didn't ban you for flaming either :roll: I don't have to explain it to you though, because deep down, you know exactly what you did. And as much as you think you can do no wrong, you did. Live with it ;)

Again, this thread is not about your banning, soooo please, I suggest you send in an e-ticket if you feel you were wronged or drop the subject.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby karel on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:35 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:/chat mods shuts up now


Live chat is heavily biased. You personally banned me for racism and yet MAT said the exact same thing that I said all day today without so much as a warning. :|
Give me a break.

Fircoal wrote:Honestly the reasons for his banning are really weak. It's interesting though as I thought the modding around here has gotten better as of late. But this is a return to the bad decisions of 08.


That's how you know the new MODs have arrived.



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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby trapyoung on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:36 pm

Free Army of God?

Eh, I'll pass - I'll wait for free pretzels
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:37 pm

trapyoung wrote:Free Army of God?

Eh, I'll pass - I'll wait for free pretzels

I hear he is as flexible as a pretzel, does that work for you?
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:43 pm

As my high school driving instructor used to shout... MERGE!!!
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:44 pm

thegreekdog wrote:As my high school driving instructor used to shout... MERGE!!!

Called it!


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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:47 pm

InsomniaRed wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:As my high school driving instructor used to shout... MERGE!!!

Called it!


Do I get a cookie? :-$


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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InsomniaRed on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
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thegreekdog wrote:As my high school driving instructor used to shout... MERGE!!!

Called it!


Do I get a cookie? :-$


Yes! Talk to Andy.

I said cookie, not banana. :-s

Rip off. Anyway, so apparently Army of GOD is still banned, I wonder if the title isn't bold enough?
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby tdans on Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:56 pm

please dont free AOG, he needs to rot in the darkest, lowest cell you got, he is a srry little man who steals peopls avi's...
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:00 am

InsomniaRed wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:Actually I did not ban you for racism or you'd be on a longer vacation, but thanks for playing. Live Chat is the least biased place that is moderated. But I digress because that is not the issue at hand and there is no need to argue it.


OH RLY?

InsomniaRed wrote:Not when you already know why. You were being racism and attempting to troll. I wasn't about to let it get out of hand.


LMAO I just posted this in private!!!
My prediction is that if she does have the balls to dispute me; she/they will somehow try to take the focus off of it being a racist comment and try to say that I was flaming the races or something. As it stands now, she looks like a stupid

I didn't ban you for flaming either :roll: I don't have to explain it to you though, because deep down, you know exactly what you did. And as much as you think you can do no wrong, you did. Live with it ;)

Again, this thread is not about your banning, soooo please, I suggest you send in an e-ticket if you feel you were wronged or drop the subject.


You missed the point? I accurately predicted that you would change the emphasis of your imaginary reasons for banning me. Though I didn't accurately predict how you would try to play it off, I still called it. Even on Glenn Beck's site the MODs admit that they make mistakes... but here they just try to cover them up. Hey, you're welcome to post the screencap anywhere you like. I'll be requesting it anyway; if my appeal goes sour.


And another thing, part of what makes the SIB forums so special is that we allow our conversations to flow, as Jonesy said "like a conversation at a bar." Our threads de-rail all the time, but that's a good thing. That's probably why SIB regulars make such good Moderators. They have a much firmer understanding of what this place is.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:15 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:And another thing, part of what makes the SIB forums so special is that we allow our conversations to flow, as Jonesy said "like a conversation at a bar." Our threads de-rail all the time, but that's a good thing. That's probably why SIB regulars make such good Moderators. They have a much firmer understanding of what this place is.


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I find it laughable that some mods in the past have gone against this. It's just integral to how we work here.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:24 am

theherkman wrote:Come on, a 1 month ban for "general trolling" is some serious bullshit. Like rdsrds banning me for something she found in an older thread Let me also mention it was a week after the fact, and I had already been banned for the posts by a different mod. Some serious bullshit.


I looked into that - and for your information, I'm a guy :lol:
We'll be hearing more about it shortly.

As for the idea that 'mods are unfair' and we're all 'out to get individuals' (yes, that means you reader!) - I doubt that is true for most of us. I for one don't look at the username and say, "Well, guess who's going to get banned today! Maybe I can have another use make a false report about him/her and see where it goes!"

No. Remember that we have HISTORY of users too, and are fairly lenient (you'd be surprised). If someone is consistently trouble-making, then common sense tells us that yes - they WILL get in trouble easier than someone who has only been a one-time offender and may just need a slap on the wrist or whatnot for them to be right back on track and possibly never make a forum mistake again.

I took the time to read all the arguments in this thread, and I agree with some of them. I have seen my fair share of uneven modship just as much as the next guy, albeit it CC or another site, but no system is perfect. I respect the CCommunity as a whole, and find it to be one of the largest, most dynamic community forums in the interwebs. If you don't like it, remember that no one is making you stay. If you have a problem with a mod, politely dropping a PM would be a much better way to let us know what's wrong then running around the forums naked with your hair on fire screaming "THEY'RE DEMONS, THEY'RE DEMONS!" and hoping we see the show. I'm always up for ideas on how to be better.

If my first days seem a bit rough, my apologies - I'm learning. It will be sorted soon, and as I said - I like to know my faults to be able to correct them, and receiving a PM I would find much more respectful than other means (as I'm sure other mods too). So relax - take a load off and try to enjoy the Community and forums for what they are and realize we're all at work here. We're not paid - we're doing this for the sole intent of trying to make the community a better place. Remember that.

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby nietzsche on Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:28 am

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