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Should AoG's term be reduced to 1 week?

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FREE ARMY OF GOD (The sequel)

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:11 am

Don't worry, nietzche won't be spoiling this one so there is no need to lock it unless you are power hungry and feel like oppressing the people of CC.

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theherkman wrote:Come on, a 1 month ban for "general trolling" is some serious bullshit. Like rdsrds banning me for something she found in an older thread Let me also mention it was a week after the fact, and I had already been banned for the posts by a different mod. Some serious bullshit.




I looked into that - and for your information, I'm a guy :lol:
We'll be hearing more about it shortly.

As for the idea that 'mods are unfair' and we're all 'out to get individuals' (yes, that means you reader!) - I doubt that is true for most of us. I for one don't look at the username and say, "Well, guess who's going to get banned today! Maybe I can have another use make a false report about him/her and see where it goes!"

No. Remember that we have HISTORY of users too, and are fairly lenient (you'd be surprised). If someone is consistently trouble-making, then common sense tells us that yes - they WILL get in trouble easier than someone who has only been a one-time offender and may just need a slap on the wrist or whatnot for them to be right back on track and possibly never make a forum mistake again.

I took the time to read all the arguments in this thread, and I agree with some of them. I have seen my fair share of uneven modship just as much as the next guy, albeit it CC or another site, but no system is perfect. I respect the CCommunity as a whole, and find it to be one of the largest, most dynamic community forums in the interwebs. If you don't like it, remember that no one is making you stay. If you have a problem with a mod, politely dropping a PM would be a much better way to let us know what's wrong then running around the forums naked with your hair on fire screaming "THEY'RE DEMONS, THEY'RE DEMONS!" and hoping we see the show. I'm always up for ideas on how to be better.

If my first days seem a bit rough, my apologies - I'm learning. It will be sorted soon, and as I said - I like to know my faults to be able to correct them, and receiving a PM I would find much more respectful than other means (as I'm sure other mods too). So relax - take a load off and try to enjoy the Community and forums for what they are and realize we're all at work here. We're not paid - we're doing this for the sole intent of trying to make the community a better place. Remember that.

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How about the PM I sent you WITH A SCREENSHOT PROVING you were wrong?

Anyway, by all means, continue to free AOG. (Minus anything that could get this locked a second time like breathing... Or typing...)
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Re: FREE ARMY OF GOD (The sequel)

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:15 am

This is locked - actually.
I said the other one would be UNLOCKED when people calmed down, and this is directly trying to circumvent what I was doing. This thread is a troll thread for trying to continue the chaos that was in the previous.

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:34 am

I am now unlocking this - please try to make less trolling posts and keep discussion to a more civil note if you could. Thank you!

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:42 am

Locking a thread for 45 minutes while others continually create new threads to talk about the same subject is a very effective solution. I'm sure everyone will come back even more calmed down.

BTW - I was just watching cops. It made me think of you rdsrds. Three officers tackled and tazed an elderly man because he told them he wanted to stand instead of sit when they were in front of his house due to a complaint about his neighbors for a noise violation.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:44 am

theherkman, do you not understand what I meant by 'not trolling'?
I hope the rest of you don't echo this - be good forum people. I know you can (:

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Iliad on Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:02 am

I gotta agree with the sentiment that the modding on this site is awful. There were countless examples of mods overstepping their boundaries and going on power trips without consequence. Even worse the administration on this site, instead of admitting mistakes to the community and moving on is condescending towards it, refuses to acknowledge the problem and always justs waits for the uproar to die down and ignores the problems.

Strangely it had been getting a lot better, as mods took an actual hands off approach and let us post in freedom, and no-one complained and people were happy, with only the isolated incidents that needed mods to step in. That is also one of the problems of modding here, the mods opinions go against the communities, often well liked people who added to the discussion are banned by mods for very weak reasons. Also the escalating ban system on the site is very warped, especially because of the reasons mentioned above. Having to spend a few days not on CC, because of a mod going on a power trip without any consequences wouldn't be too bad, but because that ban means the next power trip will mean that much longer time spent banned from the forum. In the end it ends up in situations like these where a person is banned for a very weak reason, completely unnecessary : was the community against it? No, for a very long time.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby ViperOverLord on Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:03 am

This may not apply to the newbie mods; but I've found that arguing an issue with CC mods/admin is like like arguing with an NBA ref. You'll never get the call reversed or get them to admit they are wrong, but you might get the benefit of the doubt on the next call lol.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby InkL0sed on Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:48 am

thegreekdog wrote:[sarcasm]My bans are always based on who I like or don't like. You piss me off in a political thread? Banned. You say the Eagles suck? Banned. You make fun of my avatar? Banned. On the other hand, if you acknowledge my superiority, worship my avatar, and lustily boo the Cowboys? You will never be banned.[/sarcasm]

Well shit, never mind. I'm thoroughly convinced.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby nagerous on Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:05 am

thegreekdog wrote:[sarcasm]My bans are always based on who I like or don't like. You piss me off in a political thread? Banned. You say the Eagles suck? Banned. You make fun of my avatar? Banned. On the other hand, if you acknowledge my superiority, worship my avatar, and lustily boo the Cowboys? You will never be banned.[/sarcasm]


I've had a rough night and I hate the fucking eagles man.

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby theherkman on Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:22 am

We will see how this is dealt with. I am curious to know who banned AOG. Anyone know?

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby angola on Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:28 am

InsomniaRed wrote:Though reducing his ban to one week would go hand in hand with his one week chat ban, doesn't absence make the heart grow fonder or some such muck?


Let's just be happy we'll have him back in a month :roll:


Can't wait! :?


Jesus.

I leave for three days and come back to read this drivel.

Good to see that mods that issue bans are also joking about other bans. That always sends the right message! I love that! Makes me want to post and contribute.

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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:37 am

theherkman wrote:We will see how this is dealt with. I am curious to know who banned AOG. Anyone know?


I am too curious. However I doubt that they'll say.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:21 am

Fircoal wrote:
theherkman wrote:We will see how this is dealt with. I am curious to know who banned AOG. Anyone know?


I am too curious. However I doubt that they'll say.


I heard it was someone with a micro penis :-s
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:34 am

rdsrds2120 wrote:
As for the idea that 'mods are unfair' and we're all 'out to get individuals' (yes, that means you reader!) - I doubt that is true for most of us. I for one don't look at the username and say, "Well, guess who's going to get banned today! Maybe I can have another use make a false report about him/her and see where it goes!"



Nope, but there are certainly users here who annoy me. Can you admit you would be more likely to ban such a user?

rdsrds2120 wrote:No. Remember that we have HISTORY of users too, and are fairly lenient (you'd be surprised). If someone is consistently trouble-making, then common sense tells us that yes - they WILL get in trouble easier than someone who has only been a one-time offender and may just need a slap on the wrist or whatnot for them to be right back on track and possibly never make a forum mistake again.

This to me sounds fairly condescending. Oh, you'll help the poor little misguided kid get back on track, how nice of you. THANK YOU SIR.

Also what is "trouble-making", is that equivalent with "he annoys me"? How does posting "inb4 lock" cause trouble? Does it put undue stress on the website? Does it harm the valued mods by taking 0.5 seconds of their time needed to read that comment?

rdsrds2120 wrote:I took the time to read all the arguments in this thread, and I agree with some of them. I have seen my fair share of uneven modship just as much as the next guy, albeit it CC or another site, but no system is perfect. I respect the CCommunity as a whole, and find it to be one of the largest, most dynamic community forums in the interwebs. If you don't like it, remember that no one is making you stay. If you have a problem with a mod, politely dropping a PM would be a much better way to let us know what's wrong then running around the forums naked with your hair on fire screaming "THEY'RE DEMONS, THEY'RE DEMONS!" and hoping we see the show. I'm always up for ideas on how to be better.

Ah yes, if you don't like it leave. Always love that argument. It's out way or the highway, cause we've got the power and we like things just the way they are. That's basically what you're saying yes?

rdsrds2120 wrote:If my first days seem a bit rough, my apologies - I'm learning. It will be sorted soon, and as I said - I like to know my faults to be able to correct them, and receiving a PM I would find much more respectful than other means (as I'm sure other mods too). So relax - take a load off and try to enjoy the Community and forums for what they are and realize we're all at work here. We're not paid - we're doing this for the sole intent of trying to make the community a better place. Remember that.


Who decides what makes the community better? Why, the mods of course. So, translating that statement, you're doing this for the sole intent of trying to make the community the way you'd want it to be, yes?
If the mods don't decide what makes the community better, perhaps you should put a poll up on wether AoG added or detracted from the community before banning him for general spamming/trolling


rdsrds2120 wrote:theherkman, do you not understand what I meant by 'not trolling'?
I hope the rest of you don't echo this - be good forum people. I know you can (:

Play nicely children, or I'm gonna have to punish you again. Yep you've got the right attitude, your going to make it as a mod for sure.


Also, i really shouldn't be bothering with this. I lost all hope in the moderation/administration of this site after i saw how they handled the removal of Flame Wars. However i get annoyed when mods come in here and try to act all righteous. You're not fooling anybody guys, so let's get back to business as usual, namely you ban who annoys you, we make a ruckus you ignore us completely till it dies down, rinse and repeat.
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Re: Free Army of GOD !!!

Postby aage on Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:32 am

The mods on this site have need of some sort of education, absolutely right.
AoG should be unbanned, well that's just factual information, no agreeing with it or anything...

The mistake you moderators make is so obvious I'm surprised you're not seeing it. It's just a simple matter of accepting the facts.
- as long as you're a mod you'll be banning users. Or you're a douche mod, in which case probably no-one will regard you unless you decide to start publicly discussing rule offends.
- as long as you keep banning users for whatever offence there will be people that don't like you
- as long as there are people who don't like you, there will be complaints about your functioning as a mod
So, if you can't stand complaints against you, simply don't become a mod. Resign. Like, now.


Also, the mods shouldn't take the position they currently take... If they truly are moderators that believe they are the emissaries of the People (i.e. the users), they should be standing with them against the system (which is easily blamed and mostly lacks response), not defend it with their name and status and whatnot and threatening to close threads if the simple people aren't nice to them...

In short, grow up.
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