US Military Action in Libya?

[BigBallinStalin]

Al-Jazeera is White House pocket media. Their Lebanon bureau chief and several of their reporters famously resigned earlier in the year over "extreme bias" in their reporting on events in the M.E., they provided virtually no coverage of the Qatari invasion of Bahrain (of course, the channel is owned by the Emir of Qatar) and RT even caught them in Benghazi organizing protests (the network themselves) for the benefit of camera shots.

Anyway, enough of that.

Seeing that you're not interested in being sincere with your arguments, then please continue your dance and song.

[Johnny Rockets]

Anyway, enough of that.





JRock

[saxitoxin]

Skype interview with a fighter in the Green Fist detailing the nightly battles in Tripoli and the evolution of their car bombing campaign against the NTC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H51Nn93iF0

Key Points -

- NTC is frantic; conducting random searches of all cars entering Tripoli - government buildings being heavily fortified - any resistance fighter arrested is immediately killed

- large numbers of Qatar and UAE royal troops are on the ground; Sirte is under complete control of Qatari troops who are engaged in mass looting and rape - still resistance is active there

- Green Resistance using Tunisia to regroup; large Libyan expatriate community in Tunisia is helping - NTC Secret Police are deploying in Tunisia to try to develop files on resistance sympathizers

- Minister of Information Moussa Ibrahim is "in a safe place" and "being protected"

[saxitoxin]

Today the NTC declared the Children's Sport Palace in Tripoli, a major youth entertainment complex, would charge $600 annual dues per child. It was formerly free. Poor children are to be denied entrance. No statement by the unelected council on what the money will be used on.

Withdrawals from banks by Libyans have been capped at $500 by NTC edict. Move is to stop the flow of refugees to the south and to Tunisia and Egypt to escape Sharia Law.

[BigBallinStalin]

Saxi, I respect your practicing the art of propaganda; however, I'd like to offer a few tips. This would derail this thread, and since I don't wish to be a thread buster, I dedicated a thread to our potentially fruitful discussion here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=157190#p3446958

[General_Tao]

LOL @ "mass looting" by Qatari troops, when the Qaddafi clan stashed over $100 billion in foreign banks...

Pathetic.

[saxitoxin]

LOL @ "mass looting" by Qatari troops, when the Qaddafi clan stashed over $100 billion in foreign banks...

I ask the same question Col. Qaddafi asked (and to which no one replied): which banks? You seem 100% confident so that should be an easy question to answer. Give us the names of the banks.

Meanwhile, in Tripoli, the NTC's Al-Qaeda fighters have gone on strike over the fact they're not being paid anymore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEKi4kk8 ... ideo_title

Remember, Libya is now ruled by a former US Department of Energy consultant. We have daily fights in Tripoli, car bombings, sniper attacks by the resistance. If the NTC troops are now on strike things are going to look very bad, very quickly for the US Department of Energy regime.

[General_Tao]

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/25/wikil ... gn-accoun/

pwnd.

[Johnny Rockets]

Meanwhile, in Tripoli, the NTC's Al-Qaeda fighters have gone on strike over the fact they're not being paid anymore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEKi4kk8 ... ideo_title

What kind of radical fundamentalists did they hire here? They went cheap, didn't they. They went to the bargain bin and picked up a legion or two of the "Priced to Move" Al-Queda fighters instead of paying a little more, and getting some with a solid shelf life.

Rookie mistake. Now they are going to have to contend with picket lines, and placards. How ate those suicide bombers going to get to work? Do you know how awkward it is to be trying to drive into the parking lot when your friends are pounding on the hood and blocking your way for 15 min? Meanwhile you're inside fretting....just wanting to feed your family while they are spray painting "SCAB" on the roof.......You're thinking: "MAN!!!! All I want to go is go in, strap on my plastique and my bags of nails and go do a days work....."

JRock

[saxitoxin]

Zenten Court declares "no evidence" against Saif al-Islam Qaddafi, orders his "immediate release."

http://www.algeria-isp.com/actualites/p ... -2011.html

It's important to note that Zenten city court is the only court democratically established in Libya since the takeover of the NTC regime; that is the first court whose judges are not appointees of the unelected NTC. "Hated by the Libyan people" indeed.

How long will it be before NATO military commanders override the decision of this legally constituted court? Or Saif "disappears?"

[Phatscotty]

damn...

[saxitoxin]

Syria - which is under UN sanctions for its treatment of peaceful, pro-democracy activists - was rocked by a series of peaceful, pro-democracy suicide bombings this weekend that left more than 90 dead and injured, mostly women, children and the elderly. Families of the dead were reportedly grateful their relatives had died as several of the children killed had been standing in the way of democracy, western state media reported.

The United States has demanded Syria stop using aggressive tactics to confront peaceful, pro-democracy activists and has said that if a string of suicide bombings were unleashed on New York the U.S. would reply with offers of mediation and counseling instead of armed force.

Leading Democrat-Republican American politicians have called on the U.S. to begin burning Syrian police and troops to death with cluster bombs to support the handful of heavily armed peaceful, pro-democracy activists in Syria, a tactic that previously worked in Libya - a country which is now rocked by civil war. United States politicians receive millions of dollars each year from the Zionist Occupation Regime in Palestine - whose army is currently occupying Syrian territory in Golan - and $0 each year from Syria.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/07/world/mea ... ?hpt=hp_t3

There was no immediate comment from the U.S. or its European lackeys.

[Johnny Rockets]

New thread for this?

J

[Ray Rider]

Syria - which is under UN sanctions for its treatment of peaceful, pro-democracy activists - was rocked by a series of peaceful, pro-democracy suicide bombings this weekend that left more than 90 dead and injured, mostly women, children and the elderly. Families of the dead were reportedly grateful their relatives had died as several of the children killed had been standing in the way of democracy, western state media reported.

The United States has demanded Syria stop using aggressive tactics to confront peaceful, pro-democracy activists and has said that if a string of suicide bombings were unleashed on New York the U.S. would reply with offers of mediation and counseling instead of armed force.

Leading Democrat-Republican American politicians have called on the U.S. to begin burning Syrian police and troops to death with cluster bombs to support the handful of heavily armed peaceful, pro-democracy activists in Syria, a tactic that previously worked in Libya - a country which is now rocked by civil war. United States politicians receive millions of dollars each year from the Zionist Occupation Regime in Palestine - whose army is currently occupying Syrian territory in Golan - and $0 each year from Syria.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/07/world/mea ... ?hpt=hp_t3

There was no immediate comment from the U.S. or its European lackeys.

It difficult to know exactly what's going on there, but it looks quite suspiciously like the Syrian government may have staged the bombings:

According to the Syrian state media, suicide bombers drove two cars rigged with explosives to points just outside two hard-to-reach facilities: the State Security Administration building and the Military Security base in Kafarsouseh, a neighborhood in central Damascus. These facilities are preceded by several military checkpoints, and any person or vehicle desiring access to them will need to carry a special permit. Cars also tend to be searched thoroughly before being able to roll right on up to the doorstep of secret police headquarters. When a terrorist attack is perpetrated, it takes oodles of man-hours of forensic analysis and data-gathering to determine the party responsible and the methods used. Not so in Syria. The regime’s Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) reported in an impressive 13 minutes that al-Qaeda was the culprit and that a man called Munir al-Binjali “conducted” the attack. The only problem is, al-Binjali is alive and well in Saudi Arabia, not blown to bits in Damascus.

Ah, but temporal contradictions are no match for Baathist logic. Syrian television cut straight to one of its many dolled-up talking heads, who reassured a troubled nation of the “arrest of the terrorists who blew themselves up today.” Here's a screen capture:

As for the 40 people allegedly killed, one Arab League observer surveying the wreckage abandoned his script and bothered to notice the neat circular configuration of corpses around one of the epicenters of the blasts, almost as if the bodies had been placed there deliberately. Eyewitnesses also testified that a road near one of the explosion sites had been blocked off by Syrian security well beforehand.

Etc.

You're disappointing me, Saxi! I thought you were the pro at these these conspiracies!

[saxitoxin]

it looks quite suspiciously like the Syrian government may have staged the bombings:

The evidence for this is significantly less than the evidence supporting other pop culture conspiracy theories, like the U.S. government staging 9/11.

But, not surprisingly, this conspiracy theory is paraded in western media as near-fact. And, it is accepted by the people who absorb the media as fact. What is the difference between the 9/11 conspiracy theory and the Damascus bus bombing conspiracy theory? The former alleges the comic book good guys were to blame, the latter alleges the comic book bad guys were to blame. As far as NPR or FOX are concerned, therefore, the latter can be advanced as legitimate academic inquiry, the former as nutzoid fearmongering.

Even in the fact of these contradictions in framing - which happen daily - people in the west still believe their press is free, impartial and beyond state influence.