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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:29 am

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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby karel on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:58 pm

let syria deal with there own problems,we should do nothing at all,but if a republican wins the white house i can see us going to war,since republicans love to fight wars that we have no reason to be doing,and also why should we help them,do we help countries in africa?no we dont,we just need to stay the f*ck out of the middle east
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:12 pm

karel wrote:let syria deal with there own problems,we should do nothing at all,but if a republican wins the white house i can see us going to war,since republicans love to fight wars that we have no reason to be doing,and also why should we help them,do we help countries in africa?no we dont,we just need to stay the f*ck out of the middle east


Right. Like that time when Obama bombed Libya to pieces. Those damn Republicans! It's always them who drag us into wars and create instability!


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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:33 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:[Cue saxitoxin.]


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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:38 pm

Well said.

Now, the next question: should the US supply the rebels within Syria so that they may overthrow the dictator and... create a democracy in Syria?
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:15 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:Well said.

Now, the next question: should the US supply the rebels within Syria so that they may overthrow the dictator and... create a democracy in Syria?


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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:00 pm

See ya' later, alligator.

MISRATA, Libya (AP) — One of the young Libyan rebels credited with capturing Moammar Gadhafi in a drainage ditch nearly a year ago died Tuesday of injuries after being kidnapped, beaten and slashed by Gaddafi's supporters.

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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:35 pm

The Free Syrian Army is constructing training camps within 15 miles of the Syrian border with Turkey.

May they train well!, to defeat the oppressive forces of the Assad Regime regime. His cruel dictatorship doesn't even deserve a capital letter, and the English language recoils with every spelling of "Assad."

I motion to ban the use of any capital letter for any word that describes assad's regime. Look! his name even got better: ass-ad.
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby GreecePwns on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:40 pm

Assad will be as sad as an unexpectant dad when the Free Syrian Army hangs him like a chad.
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:46 pm

It's kind of scary though. Perhaps, the rebellion is a modern version of the US revolutionary war... Perhaps.

Anyway, the "Free Syrian Army" is a loosely knit alliance of various factions who have one thing in common: they hate Assad and his way of governance. But, the aftermath could get nastier. I want to think it may look like Libya, but given the few stories I've been reading by Libya, it seems that Libya's loose alliance of militias is generally better than the Qaddafi times. (Again, who knows where that'll end up).

We're experiencing from the way, way back seats, the births of several nation-states, which is not in all cases desirable...

What do y'all think about the Egypt/Syria/Libya experience?
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby GreecePwns on Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:55 pm

Islamic fundamentalists have exploited each and every one of these opportunities. Even the Egyptian democracy ended up being ruled by Islamists.

Only Tunisia has managed to get a non-radical Islamist government (the leading party calls itself "moderate Islamist," I assume that simply means social conservatism). No surprise that they were the originators of the Arab Spring protest and likely the only one not corrupted by outside/nonpopular forces.

I don't know enough about the FSA, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were more of the same US backed Islamic fundamentalsts or anti-American Islamic fundamentalists.
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:33 pm

But wait, what's this? A meeting of opposition parties in Damascus has called for the removal of President Assad.

http://rt.com/news/syria-opposition-con ... eting-788/

If Syria is an overbearing dictatorship, how on Earth could opposition parties hold a two-day conference in a nice hotel in the capital city to discuss relieving Assad from power? In the western narrative, cartoonish squads of secret police and troops should have descended on that place. (The "Free Syrian Army" terrorists boycotted the meeting, BTW.)

The western narrative (there is only evil dictator Assad and the armed FSA opposing him!) has holes.
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:09 pm

That's just Russian, Chinese, anti-US Middle Eastern propaganda.


Okay, serious time.

20 years from now, Chinese and Russian influence (and I guess Indian) has significantly increased on the geopolitical scale.

So, instead of hosting mere discussion forums, they may actually start intervening--in similar ways to US/NATO interventions, mass bombing campaigns, outright invasions (less likely), etc. We'll be living in a world where others than the US become more influential in smaller countries' sovereignty.
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Re: US Military Action in Syria?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:10 pm

Or how about this:


With the production of natural gas rapdily increasing, US imports on petroleum would decrease significantly, thus freeing up more petroleum for other countries. With a lesser demand for foreign oil, would other countries (China, India) engage in similar means to previous/ongoing US foreign policy in securing petroleum from Middle Eastern nations?
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby Qwert on Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:04 am

When i look on Wikipedia pages
Syrian Civil War
i notice that US and Al-Qaida are on same side- support FSA,, are this some mistake,i though that US fight against Al-Qaida?
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:51 pm

well, the FSA of course are not Al-Qaeda because they say so.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:30 pm

qwert wrote:When i look on Wikipedia pages
Syrian Civil War
i notice that US and Al-Qaida are on same side- support FSA,, are this some mistake,i though that US fight against Al-Qaida?


3 words....

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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby GreecePwns on Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:58 pm

Romney soooo wouldn't do the same exact thing. Nope.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 pm

GreecePwns wrote:Romney soooo wouldn't do the same exact thing. Nope.


...and just like that, Obama shakes responsibility for his blunders?

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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:30 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:Romney soooo wouldn't do the same exact thing. Nope.


...and just like that, Obama shakes responsibility for his blunders?

SHAZAM!


I think GP was noting that you only have the luxury of criticizing Obama's policy if you can confirm you're not supporting his policy executed through a different conduit.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:38 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:Romney soooo wouldn't do the same exact thing. Nope.


...and just like that, Obama shakes responsibility for his blunders?

SHAZAM!


I think GP was noting that you only have the luxury of criticizing Obama's policy if you can confirm you're not supporting his policy executed through a different conduit.


I think it was an ad hominem
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby GreecePwns on Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:24 pm

Yup. You were mentioned in that post. It was a personal attack on you. Sure.

Also, why the sudden inclusion of Hussein every time you mention his name and Arab conflicts lately? Is this an attempt to tie the President to Islamic fundamentalism? Well, you've already tied him to Marxism, so doing the same with Islamic fundamentalism would be contradictory.

As if you know what either of those terms mean. <--- that's not an ad hominem, since you've displayed on this forum in the past that you truly don't know the meaning of either term.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby Qwert on Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:45 am

so 1 year of Libya liberation, and democratization.
how things going in this country after US bring all good things, and when people are finally free, are become more prosperous and wealthy ? Or things become much more worst and country become totally poor and unsecured ?
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:53 pm

qwert wrote:so 1 year of Libya liberation, and democratization.
how things going in this country after US bring all good things, and when people are finally free, are become more prosperous and wealthy ? Or things become much more worst and country become totally poor and unsecured ?


Actually, as far as monthly deaths are concerned, the situation in Libya seems more stable than Iraq and Afghanistan---which were being occupied by a huge military force.


This may be yet another example of the failures of central planning--even in the most basic function: security. For Afghanistan and Iraq, imposed order seems to largely be inducing the violence as oppose to mitigating it.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

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Commander-in-Chief FAIL

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Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (4) Freestyle Achievement (2) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (3)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (3) Speed Achievement (3) Teammate Achievement (3) Random Map Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Beta Map Achievement (2) Battle Royale Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (5)
General Achievement (2) Clan Achievement (10) Training Achievement (6) Challenge Achievement (1) Tournament Contribution (13)

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