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got tonkaed wrote:i think its actually pretty amazing, that despite the fact that there is for the first time a serious female candidate that has a chance to win....the womens vote which she needs, simply is just not there.
its astounding how often i ask a woman if she would vote for hillary and they claim they would vote for anyone but hillary and that they would never vote for hillary.
its just pretty amazing.
Carebian Knight wrote:I definately wouldn't vote for her or Obama, even if I could. I'm not against a woman or a black president but neither of them are the kind of president we need. I forgot the guys name because I don't follow that stuff right now, but I know he's an older guy and I think he was a senator, but I really liked his views on things, I would vote for him because of that, not because he's a republican, even though I personally like republicans better than democrats.
cawck mongler wrote:Neither Hillary or Obama would get my vote, the liberal party pisses me off with the whole 'lets either have a woman or a black candidate, to show how progressive we are', there's nothing progressive about giving someone a position just because they're different.
US politics just makes me laugh, its seriously fucked up. Neither party really even has an agenda, all they do is make fucking comments about what they MIGHT do in Iraq. Give it up fags, more Americans die or have their standard of living affected by crime then Iraq, start dealing with the real issues.
This is why everyone in the whole fucking world hates America and thinks Americans are stupid, their the richest country in the world, but they let their government f*ck them in the ass so much, and then they turn around and brag about it saying they have the best country ever. f*ck America, shit hole of the world (its worse then North Korea, at least North Korea only harms its own citizens, the US uses so much of the earths resources and shows nothing for it but a few more benefits for the rich).
OnlyAmbrose wrote:cawck mongler wrote:Neither Hillary or Obama would get my vote, the liberal party pisses me off with the whole 'lets either have a woman or a black candidate, to show how progressive we are', there's nothing progressive about giving someone a position just because they're different.
US politics just makes me laugh, its seriously fucked up. Neither party really even has an agenda, all they do is make fucking comments about what they MIGHT do in Iraq. Give it up fags, more Americans die or have their standard of living affected by crime then Iraq, start dealing with the real issues.
This is why everyone in the whole fucking world hates America and thinks Americans are stupid, their the richest country in the world, but they let their government f*ck them in the ass so much, and then they turn around and brag about it saying they have the best country ever. f*ck America, shit hole of the world (its worse then North Korea, at least North Korea only harms its own citizens, the US uses so much of the earths resources and shows nothing for it but a few more benefits for the rich).
I never thought I'd say this... but I agree with (most of) this post.
Unfortunetly, QFTBanana Stomper wrote:But it doesn't matter anyway, none of your votes count and neither does mine.
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
Everyone meet the new President of the US in 2012! Thank you for showing the truth.cawck mongler wrote:Neither Hillary or Obama would get my vote, the liberal party pisses me off with the whole 'lets either have a woman or a black candidate, to show how progressive we are', there's nothing progressive about giving someone a position just because they're different.
US politics just makes me laugh, its seriously fucked up. Neither party really even has an agenda, all they do is make fucking comments about what they MIGHT do in Iraq. Give it up fags, more Americans die or have their standard of living affected by crime then Iraq, start dealing with the real issues.
This is why everyone in the whole fucking world hates America and thinks Americans are stupid, their the richest country in the world, but they let their government f*ck them in the ass so much, and then they turn around and brag about it saying they have the best country ever. f*ck America, shit hole of the world (its worse then North Korea, at least North Korea only harms its own citizens, the US uses so much of the earths resources and shows nothing for it but a few more benefits for the rich).
Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
vtmarik wrote:Carebian Knight wrote:I definately wouldn't vote for her or Obama, even if I could. I'm not against a woman or a black president but neither of them are the kind of president we need. I forgot the guys name because I don't follow that stuff right now, but I know he's an older guy and I think he was a senator, but I really liked his views on things, I would vote for him because of that, not because he's a republican, even though I personally like republicans better than democrats.
Well, here's something worth thinking about:
One of the most impressive and progressive presidents we've ever had was also the youngest we've ever had. JFK.
I think electing an older guy is a bad idea, but it's not like anyone gave us a fucking choice in matter, right?
Technically, he was a Fedralist, which was a party, I think for a short time. But, not sure if it would be considered a party by todays standards. Also, another great was Teddy Roosevelt.Carebian Knight wrote:vtmarik wrote:Carebian Knight wrote:I definately wouldn't vote for her or Obama, even if I could. I'm not against a woman or a black president but neither of them are the kind of president we need. I forgot the guys name because I don't follow that stuff right now, but I know he's an older guy and I think he was a senator, but I really liked his views on things, I would vote for him because of that, not because he's a republican, even though I personally like republicans better than democrats.
Well, here's something worth thinking about:
One of the most impressive and progressive presidents we've ever had was also the youngest we've ever had. JFK.
I think electing an older guy is a bad idea, but it's not like anyone gave us a fucking choice in matter, right?
Here's another something worth thinking about:
Another of the best presidents, FDR, was 63 when he died, in the middle of his 4th term as president.
Also George Washington, considered the Father of America was 65 when he retired from presidency. Also the only president smart enough not to join a political party.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Technically, he was a Fedralist, which was a party, I think for a short time. But, not sure if it would be considered a party by todays standards. Also, another great was Teddy Roosevelt.Carebian Knight wrote:vtmarik wrote:Carebian Knight wrote:I definately wouldn't vote for her or Obama, even if I could. I'm not against a woman or a black president but neither of them are the kind of president we need. I forgot the guys name because I don't follow that stuff right now, but I know he's an older guy and I think he was a senator, but I really liked his views on things, I would vote for him because of that, not because he's a republican, even though I personally like republicans better than democrats.
Well, here's something worth thinking about:
One of the most impressive and progressive presidents we've ever had was also the youngest we've ever had. JFK.
I think electing an older guy is a bad idea, but it's not like anyone gave us a fucking choice in matter, right?
Here's another something worth thinking about:
Another of the best presidents, FDR, was 63 when he died, in the middle of his 4th term as president.
Also George Washington, considered the Father of America was 65 when he retired from presidency. Also the only president smart enough not to join a political party.
Gotcha.Carebian Knight wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Technically, he was a Fedralist, which was a party, I think for a short time. But, not sure if it would be considered a party by todays standards. Also, another great was Teddy Roosevelt.Carebian Knight wrote:vtmarik wrote:Carebian Knight wrote:I definately wouldn't vote for her or Obama, even if I could. I'm not against a woman or a black president but neither of them are the kind of president we need. I forgot the guys name because I don't follow that stuff right now, but I know he's an older guy and I think he was a senator, but I really liked his views on things, I would vote for him because of that, not because he's a republican, even though I personally like republicans better than democrats.
Well, here's something worth thinking about:
One of the most impressive and progressive presidents we've ever had was also the youngest we've ever had. JFK.
I think electing an older guy is a bad idea, but it's not like anyone gave us a fucking choice in matter, right?
Here's another something worth thinking about:
Another of the best presidents, FDR, was 63 when he died, in the middle of his 4th term as president.
Also George Washington, considered the Father of America was 65 when he retired from presidency. Also the only president smart enough not to join a political party.
Yes true Teddy was a great president.
Technically? He might have agreed more with the Federalists but he never was one.
Didn't Ron Paul switch over from the Libertarian Party?unriggable wrote:Ibe thing cawck mongler, the world hates america because we love war. Both parties just love raping innocent countries for no apparent reason. I think Ron Paul will get my vote *even though I'll miss the election by THREE WEEKS), if not him then Obama, but no neocon will be getting my vote. Christ, I'm surprised the Republican party still has juice after what's happened recently.
xtratabasco wrote:Our only chance at saving this country is Ron Paul
jay_a2j wrote:I know its like 18 months away...but I love politics. The first woman president? What do you think?
xtratabasco wrote:Our only chance at saving this country is Ron Paul
NESconqueror wrote:jay_a2j wrote:I know its like 18 months away...but I love politics. The first woman president? What do you think?
That would work out well.
IMO (And I am a guy, so don't go at me with pitchforks and torches) Women > men.
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