Zimmerman vs. DMX - Boxing Match?

[Phatscotty]

"There are 2 Trayvons in America" - one of them is 12 years old, 5'8 and 130 pounds and looks like a young Obama and just likes to eat skittles, the other one is a 17 year old self named "NoLimitNi$$a" who was serving his 3rd suspension from school on drug related charges, liked to flip the bird a lot, and idolized the thug life.

Which one sounds more plausible to you?

Killing him is okay. His idolization of the thug life, drug use and flipping of the bird makes it okay.

Greece, you are a smart person. Don't go dumb on me.

Those are your words, not mine, and not even close to mine. It has nothing to do with Trayvon, and 100% to do with American's perceptions which were molded by the media.

[Phatscotty]

The facts are that Zimmerman is a consistent liar, as his wife.

Zimmerman was told by 911 operator to NOT confront the suspect. Zimmerman was armed with a gun, suspect was armed with what...candy and something to drink????

And Zimmerman complied............ Sounds like you are basing your understanding on the edited version of the 911 tape. The operator said "are you following him" Z said "yes" the operator said "we don't need you to do that" and Z said "Okay."

Seriously, there are enough lies in this case. We don't need more

[GBU56]

The facts are that Zimmerman is a consistent liar, as his wife.

Zimmerman was told by 911 operator to NOT confront the suspect. Zimmerman was armed with a gun, suspect was armed with what...candy and something to drink????

And Zimmerman complied............ Sounds like you are basing your understanding on the edited version of the 911 tape. The operator said "are you following him" Z said "yes" the operator said "we don't need you to do that" and Z said "Okay."

Seriously, there are enough lies in this case. We don't need more

Damn you're so misinformed. Zimmerman followed the kid and got out of his car. All this right after 911 operator told him not too. What a tough guy Zimmerman is, heh...has to carry a gun for his own protection against someone carrying candy and a soft drink.

Zimmerman is a coward, period! I have all sorts of guns in my house, but I don't carry them around with me while I'm driving looking for a "hero moment". He shot the kid and should be charged for murder. I feel horrible for the Trayvon family and friends, as they will never see their son, grandson, nephew and friend grow up and live a full life.

Zimmerman is a bigot, coward and sexual predator.

[Phatscotty]

The facts are that Zimmerman is a consistent liar, as his wife.

Zimmerman was told by 911 operator to NOT confront the suspect. Zimmerman was armed with a gun, suspect was armed with what...candy and something to drink????

And Zimmerman complied............ Sounds like you are basing your understanding on the edited version of the 911 tape. The operator said "are you following him" Z said "yes" the operator said "we don't need you to do that" and Z said "Okay."

Seriously, there are enough lies in this case. We don't need more

Damn you're so misinformed. Zimmerman followed the kid and got out of his car. All this right after 911 operator told him not too. What a tough guy Zimmerman is, heh...has to carry a gun for his own protection against someone carrying candy and a soft drink.

Zimmerman is a coward, period! I have all sorts of guns in my house, but I don't carry them around with me while I'm driving looking for a "hero moment". He shot the kid and should be charged for murder. I feel horrible for the Trayvon family and friends, as they will never see their son, grandson, nephew and friend grow up and live a full life.

Zimmerman is a bigot, coward and sexual predator.

Why don't you show me the actual quote from the 911 call. This will answer who is misinformed, and who is spreading the lies.

[Baron Von PWN]

The facts are that Zimmerman is a consistent liar, as his wife.

Zimmerman was told by 911 operator to NOT confront the suspect. Zimmerman was armed with a gun, suspect was armed with what...candy and something to drink????

And Zimmerman complied............ Sounds like you are basing your understanding on the edited version of the 911 tape. The operator said "are you following him" Z said "yes" the operator said "we don't need you to do that" and Z said "Okay."

Seriously, there are enough lies in this case. We don't need more

Damn you're so misinformed. Zimmerman followed the kid and got out of his car. All this right after 911 operator told him not too. What a tough guy Zimmerman is, heh...has to carry a gun for his own protection against someone carrying candy and a soft drink.

Zimmerman is a coward, period! I have all sorts of guns in my house, but I don't carry them around with me while I'm driving looking for a "hero moment". He shot the kid and should be charged for murder. I feel horrible for the Trayvon family and friends, as they will never see their son, grandson, nephew and friend grow up and live a full life.

Zimmerman is a bigot, coward and sexual predator.

Why don't you show me the actual quote from the 911 call. This will answer who is misinformed, and who is spreading the lies.

You said earlier Trayvon weighed more than zimerman. Do you have a source or are you spreading lies?

[Woodruff]

"There are 2 Trayvons in America" - one of them is 12 years old, 5'8 and 130 pounds and looks like a young Obama and just likes to eat skittles, the other one is a 17 year old self named "NoLimitNi$$a" who was serving his 3rd suspension from school on drug related charges, liked to flip the bird a lot, and idolized the thug life.

Which one sounds more plausible to you?

Killing him is okay. His idolization of the thug life, drug use and flipping of the bird makes it okay.

Greece, you are a smart person. Don't go dumb on me.

Those are your words, not mine, and not even close to mine. It has nothing to do with Trayvon, and 100% to do with American's perceptions which were molded by the media.

And yet, you're the one using those things as an excuse.

[Woodruff]

Zimmerman is a bigot, coward and sexual predator.

Uh...what?

[Woodruff]

You said earlier Trayvon weighed more than zimerman. Do you have a source or are you spreading lies?

You guys still haven't figured out why Phatscotty's all over the defense of Zimmerman? It's his "hero moment"...don't you remember everything Phatscotty was saying about "if he had been there" back when we were talking about the shooting in (I think it was) Norway? That is the lens that Phatscotty is viewing this incident through.

[spurgistan]

Not really. I'm pretty sure it's just his usual reflexive "liberals think it, so it's wrong" shtick.

[Phatscotty]

The facts are that Zimmerman is a consistent liar, as his wife.

Zimmerman was told by 911 operator to NOT confront the suspect. Zimmerman was armed with a gun, suspect was armed with what...candy and something to drink????

And Zimmerman complied............ Sounds like you are basing your understanding on the edited version of the 911 tape. The operator said "are you following him" Z said "yes" the operator said "we don't need you to do that" and Z said "Okay."

Seriously, there are enough lies in this case. We don't need more

Damn you're so misinformed. Zimmerman followed the kid and got out of his car. All this right after 911 operator told him not too. What a tough guy Zimmerman is, heh...has to carry a gun for his own protection against someone carrying candy and a soft drink.

Zimmerman is a coward, period! I have all sorts of guns in my house, but I don't carry them around with me while I'm driving looking for a "hero moment". He shot the kid and should be charged for murder. I feel horrible for the Trayvon family and friends, as they will never see their son, grandson, nephew and friend grow up and live a full life.

Zimmerman is a bigot, coward and sexual predator.

Why don't you show me the actual quote from the 911 call. This will answer who is misinformed, and who is spreading the lies.

You said earlier Trayvon weighed more than zimerman. Do you have a source or are you spreading lies?

I have posted tons of sources. We just finished talking about how all the sources have different information. I think that was on the last page....what is for sure is that Trayvon was much, much taller than Zimmerman. No matter how much the weight, it's pretty perverse to argue that the 5'11"-6'3" guy is the smaller person, compared to a 5'3"-5'7" person. If you are confused because of Woodruff's derailing, I understand.

Plus, there is the whole thing that Zimmerman did not land a single blow, but received over a dozen blows and had numerous injuries. Care to take a wild guess who the bigger guy is? Just to pre-empt what I know your response will be, yes I admit that the bigger person does not always totally dominate a fight, I just hope that you can admit the bigger person almost always does win the fight, and should at least be able to land a single punch.

[Phatscotty]

You said earlier Trayvon weighed more than zimerman. Do you have a source or are you spreading lies?

You guys still haven't figured out why Phatscotty's all over the defense of Zimmerman? It's his "hero moment"...don't you remember everything Phatscotty was saying about "if he had been there" back when we were talking about the shooting in (I think it was) Norway? That is the lens that Phatscotty is viewing this incident through.

that isn't a hero moment stick-boy. It's a moment when people around you are being shot, and you are able to do something to stop it, and you stop it. It's a pretty simple concept to understand. But then again, hey, it's Woodruff.

And how you can possibly compare taking action with a gun when people around you are being shot, to a situation of taking action with a gun when people around you are not being shot, just shows that you are either a giant stick-boy or a giant troll.

[Woodruff]

I have posted tons of sources. We just finished talking about how all the sources have different information. I think that was on the last page....what is for sure is that Trayvon was much, much taller than Zimmerman. No matter how much the weight, it's pretty perverse to argue that the 5'11"-6'3" guy is the smaller person, compared to a 5'3"-5'7" person. If you are confused because of Woodruff's derailing, I understand.

Woodruff's derailing? Phatscotty, in a fight, the shorter, heavier guy is going to have a TREMENDOUS advantage over a taller, thinner guy unless he's an utter incompetent. Yet you want to pretend that the only thing that matters is height. Do you ever seriously consider that you might be a bigot?

Plus, there is the whole thing that Zimmerman did not land a single blow

Wait, what? You ARE a bigot, aren't you?

but received over a dozen blows and had numerous injuries. Care to take a wild guess who the bigger guy is? Just to pre-empt what I know your response will be, yes I admit that the bigger person does not always totally dominate a fight, I just hope that you can admit the bigger person almost always does win the fight, and should at least be able to land a single punch.

In a fight, the shorter, heavier guy is going to have a tremendous advantage unless he's an utter incompetent.

[Woodruff]

You said earlier Trayvon weighed more than zimerman. Do you have a source or are you spreading lies?

You guys still haven't figured out why Phatscotty's all over the defense of Zimmerman? It's his "hero moment"...don't you remember everything Phatscotty was saying about "if he had been there" back when we were talking about the shooting in (I think it was) Norway? That is the lens that Phatscotty is viewing this incident through.

that isn't a hero moment stick-boy. It's a moment when people around you are being shot, and you are able to do something to stop it, and you stop it. It's a pretty simple concept to understand. But then again, hey, it's Woodruff.

I have no doubt in my mind that you'd be cowering behind a desk pissing your pants while kids were being shot around you. It's easy to tell the type...they always want to talk about what they'd do.

And how you can possibly compare taking action with a gun when people around you are being shot, to a situation of taking action with a gun when people around you are not being shot, just shows that you are either a giant stick-boy or a giant troll.

Because you're just the sort of type that wants to talk big and do nothing.

[Phatscotty]

You said earlier Trayvon weighed more than zimerman. Do you have a source or are you spreading lies?

You guys still haven't figured out why Phatscotty's all over the defense of Zimmerman? It's his "hero moment"...don't you remember everything Phatscotty was saying about "if he had been there" back when we were talking about the shooting in (I think it was) Norway? That is the lens that Phatscotty is viewing this incident through.

that isn't a hero moment stick-boy. It's a moment when people around you are being shot, and you are able to do something to stop it, and you stop it. It's a pretty simple concept to understand. But then again, hey, it's Woodruff.

I have no doubt in my mind that you'd be cowering behind a desk pissing your pants while kids were being shot around you. It's easy to tell the type...they always want to talk about what they'd do.

And how you can possibly compare taking action with a gun when people around you are being shot, to a situation of taking action with a gun when people around you are not being shot, just shows that you are either a giant stick-boy or a giant troll.

Because you're just the sort of type that wants to talk big and do nothing.

An attack on me, and nothing to do with the thread. Changes nothing, proves nothing. You are trolling

[Night Strike]

Plus, there is the whole thing that Zimmerman did not land a single blow

Wait, what? You ARE a bigot, aren't you?

How is that bigotry??

[puppydog85]

Well, as a short, heavier guy fighting my taller skinnier brother-in-laws I am glad to know that I am an incompetent. The number 1 thing in a fight is something called reach. Go look it up or just watch a Mohammed Ali fight.

[notyou2]

Well, as a short, heavier guy fighting my taller skinnier brother-in-laws I am glad to know that I am an incompetent. The number 1 thing in a fight is something called reach. Go look it up or just watch a Mohammed Ali fight.

On the ground, reach is no longer an advantage, weight is.

[puppydog85]

Not exactly right, notyou2. For example UFCs 1 & 2 Gracie was waaaay less weight than some people. I would state that position is probably the most important on the ground (eg. mount position)

But you are correct in pointing out my error. I should have said that in a stand up fight reach is probably the most important (after skill of course, a raw rookie vs. a golden glove).

[comic boy]

Plus, there is the whole thing that Zimmerman did not land a single blow

Wait, what? You ARE a bigot, aren't you?

How is that bigotry??

I would have thought you of all people would be aware of the definition but just to remind you ;
Bigot - Obstinately or Intolerantly devoted to their own prejudices and opinions.
Perhaps you might want to re-read this entire thread and point out where Scotty has been balanced , fair and unbiased in his opinions.

[john9blue]

I would have thought you of all people would be aware of the definition but just to remind you ;
Bigot - Obstinately or Intolerantly devoted to their own prejudices and opinions.

this describes almost everyone

[comic boy]

I would have thought you of all people would be aware of the definition but just to remind you ;
Bigot - Obstinately or Intolerantly devoted to their own prejudices and opinions.

this describes almost everyone

I disagree , sure we all have prejudices but it doesn't follow that we pursue them in an obstinate or intolerant fashion. If one has a fixed position on a certain matter and is unwilling to be open minded then by definition that view is bigoted.

[john9blue]

If one has a fixed position on a certain matter and is unwilling to be open minded then by definition that view is bigoted.

again, this describes almost everyone.

maybe you don't understand because you live in the beacon of progressive freethought that is england

[comic boy]

If one has a fixed position on a certain matter and is unwilling to be open minded then by definition that view is bigoted.

again, this describes almost everyone.

maybe you don't understand because you live in the beacon of progressive freethought that is england

Well its true that a lot of Americans do seem to view issues in a very black or white way ( excuse the pun )

[GBU56]

Zimmerman is a bigot, coward and sexual predator.

Uh...what?

Zimmerman's much younger female relative claims she has been sexually abused by him. She'll be testifying in court.

[Night Strike]

I would have thought you of all people would be aware of the definition but just to remind you ;
Bigot - Obstinately or Intolerantly devoted to their own prejudices and opinions.

this describes almost everyone

I disagree , sure we all have prejudices but it doesn't follow that we pursue them in an obstinate or intolerant fashion. If one has a fixed position on a certain matter and is unwilling to be open minded then by definition that view is bigoted.

Why should a person be "open minded" when they're already siding with the truth?