Iliad wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Iliad wrote:Phatscotty wrote:
The verdict was a joke, but not for the reasons I suspect you think so. It's joke because the jury came to the exact same conclusion that was reached the night of the shooting, which wasted millions of dollars, led to thug mobs jumping innocent white people and severely ruining innocent peoples lives, and displayed the ugliest racism by racist Liberals and blacks I have seen in my life, not to mention completely destroying race relations far more than you could ever fear Mitt Romney would if he got elected.
The prosecutor should be disbarred, and probably will be. The biggest joke was that there was even a trial.
If being outraged by the Trayvon Martin case was the ugliest racism you've ever seen then you''ve lived an extremely sheltered life with impressive wilful blindness.
And all those racist blacks should just shut up and stop being outraged, eh Scotty?A man pursued a teenager at night, followed him and antagonised him until a conflict eurpted and then claimed self defence to murder a teenager. It's a disgusting verdict
I said nothing about the outrage being racist, in fact I said nothing about any outrage at all. That is a figment of your own sheltered imagination. Since you seem to be the sheltered one about this story and think that is the only racism over the last year, but nonetheless continue having strong opinions somehow, I can elaborate. The racism I was referring to was things like the Black Panthers calling for Zimmerman to be lynched, people wearing "Kill whitey Zimmerman" t-shirts, mobs of blacks beating up innocent white senior citizens solely because their skin is white and yelling "this is for Trayvon!"
Hahahahahahaha.
Phatscotty wrote: Not to mention the fact that if Zimmerman were black, nobody would have ever heard about this story, the only reason it's big news is because Zimmerman was not black and people think he's white.
Yeah, this would not be news if Zimmerman was black. For once we agree. If Zimmerman was black, and he had pursued a white teenager and then shot him and claimed self defence he would've been charged and thrown in jail before a single reporter heard about it. There was literally another case in Florida where a black woman received 20 year in jail for firing warning shots with her gun at her husband despite her claiming the stand your ground laws.
Phatscotty wrote:The self defense happened in when Trayvon was smashing Zimmerman's head into the concrete. Get a clue. Trayvon is the one who "erupted". All he had to do was say "I'm staying at my dads, Mr. Martin" But given that he was using racial slurs describing Zimmerman, it's clear who had a chip on their shoulder that night. It's also clear from Trayvon's past texts that he liked to get in fights and bragged about beating people up.All you are missing is some common sense.
It's kinda disgusting how Trayvon was put on trial instead essentially. The latent racial undercurrents in calling him a thug and so really went beyond subtext and into the almost outright said zone.
Why was he required to say anything, or have to explain himself to some trumped up vigilante who was playing at being a cop, but only highlighting his own personality? Zimmerman had no jurisdiction, no jurisprudence, no authority. If some older, bigger, man with a gun is following me at night and I should meekly obey him at all times or otherwise my life is forfeit? Excellent legal precedent set right there.
Where was Trayvon Martin's right to stand his ground here? I can't imagine how terrifying it would be to be persistently followed by someone in a car, then on foot, while I'm walking home alone at night. Zimmerman pursued him, antagonised him, created the conflict, and shot him because he thought he was losing that same fight he was responsible for. Not guilty is not a just verdict.
He was not required to say anything, no. But, if he had, he would still be alive. So you can defend him being stubborn and having an attitude, but I think it's pretty simple to answer the question "what are you doing here" I was asked that question constantly as a child, I answered it almost every time, even if it wasn't the truth, just to keep from anything escalating. And if not, I could just about outrun anyone, which was also an option for Trayvon btw.
Trayon Martin had a right to stand his ground, and he did stand his ground. The problem is, he went way too far. When he knocked Zimmerman down with 1 punch, he could have went on his way regardless of what happened before and never heard about it again and bragged to his friends about how he knocked out some crac*er, but he went to far by then getting on top of Zimmerman and smashing his head into the cement, and that is where Zimmerman stood his ground. Up to that point, Trayvon's life was not in danger, not until the moment he went to far and tried to kill Zimmerman. Then and only then did Zimmerman pull out his gun, which says a lot that he had not pulled it out earlier and is also a key piece of the self defense. He didn't pull the gun until the last possible moment.
Again, I don't know where the hell you are getting your information, but it seems like the last time you heard the story was last March. You are still calling Zimmerman the bigger man??? Even though Trayvon was taller almost by a foot???? I'm kinda wasting my time here with these regurgitated pieces of bullshit people keep spewing, and I know it's not totally your fault, but Zimmerman, while he may have been older, was certainly not bigger.
Again, if someone were following you and asked what you were doing, and you were terrified, all you would have to do is communicate what it is you are doing. Then you would no longer be terrified, and you might even get a ride home from the neighborhood watchmen.
It's not disgusting at all that Trayvon was put on trial, he tried to beat someone to death. It just so happened the person he was trying to kill, for whatever reason, was not going to surrender his life and was prepared to defend himself. This is exactly what a gun is for.
You think calling Trayvon a thug is racial? I think you are being racist there suggesting only black people can be thugs???? Think about that for a minute.... HE WAS A THUG!!! You seem to be unable to put any of the blame on Trayvon for anything.
But here is the simple honest to God truth. Trayvon could have done MANY things differently that night, and he would still be alive. Zimmerman was not looking for a fight, Trayvon was. He bragged about getting in fights and how bad he beat people up. He was also a thief. That's what makes him a thug, not the color of his skin.
I think you cannot see any of these simple truths because of your own racism. btw, what was so funny? The part about the white senior citizens getting jumped in revenge for Trayvon Martin??